Bellator 126: Shlemenko vs. Halsey (September 26, 2014)

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  • Sacrelicious
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    #36
    Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
    Shlemenko all day son
    This.
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    • Napes21
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      #37
      Originally posted by mmaed
      I am surprised to see Alexander at even money. I haven't seen any of Brandon fights but I read he makes a big weight cut. Has anyone seen him gas in the past? How about his striking and takedowns? Any info is appreciated. I'm currently at work and I will probably watch some tape later. Thanks
      Honestly I can't remember Halsey's fights but my notes on him from his last fight (that I haven't gone back and rewatched) are as follows - do with those what you will - not sure how/if I'm betting this one:
      Very aggressive and strong, decent wrestling, can grind if necessary, good TDs, nice armbar
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      • Ron_Paul_2012
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        #38
        Originally posted by Skel
        I have bets on Halsey +150 and West +220.
        Halsey for the win! West? Not too sure about that one. I like Richman in that one.
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        • JIBBBY
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          #39
          Originally posted by Napes21
          Honestly I can't remember Halsey's fights but my notes on him from his last fight (that I haven't gone back and rewatched) are as follows - do with those what you will - not sure how/if I'm betting this one:
          Very aggressive and strong, decent wrestling, can grind if necessary, good TDs, nice armbar
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          • JIBBBY
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            #40
            Brandon Halsey is a bit of a beast.. Shlemenko is the better technical striker with alot more experience. I don't see Shlemenko getting wrecked again and in the same fashion like he did against TITO.. Still this is a young, athletic, strong, undefeated big sized wrestling buck he is facing tonight in Halsey..

            Tough fight to bet on.. Still on Shlemenko small.. Not confident at all though with this play...

            SHOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT TO WATCH THOUGH!!!
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            • Skel
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              #41
              Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
              Halsey for the win! West? Not too sure about that one. I like Richman in that one.
              Richman's had some tough luck recently in losing close decisions to talented guys. I agree that he should be favored here but I like taking a shot on West at those odds. This is Richman's first fight at 135 and he may have trouble with the cut (though I doubt it) and/or dealing with the speed difference at the new weight class. I don't see West finishing him but he could kick his way to a decision. He had a close split decision with Dantas, after all.
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              • Dwil125
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                #42
                Originally posted by Bumdeal
                I don't know if I can ever bet Magalhaes again after he got ktfo by Perosh and left his gloves in the Octagon. That loss cost me a lot.
                ^^^^ This
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                • Skel
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                  #43
                  Small bet on Held -105. Hearing good things about his striking from certain insiders ^ here and elsewhere. Kid has potential at his age.
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                  • MD
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Napes21
                    Honestly I can't remember Halsey's fights but my notes on him from his last fight (that I haven't gone back and rewatched) are as follows - do with those what you will - not sure how/if I'm betting this one:
                    Very aggressive and strong, decent wrestling, can grind if necessary, good TDs, nice armbar
                    Those are the kind of notes you're taught not to take in poker, and are even worse in MMA handicapping, IMO. They're too indistinct and don't mean anything for matchup analysis.
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                    • Napes21
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by MD
                      Those are the kind of notes you're taught not to take in poker, and are even worse in MMA handicapping, IMO. They're too indistinct and don't mean anything for matchup analysis.
                      Tis why I am not using them for betting on this fight mon frere - nothing there for me to act on
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                      • Napes21
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Napes21
                        Tis why I am not using them for betting on this fight mon frere - nothing there for me to act on
                        Would you like to bet me 1000 BP whether I suggested making a play off those notes? Bava can be judge.
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                        • Skel
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                          #47


                          Shlemenko needs to drop down to 170 and consider juicing.
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #48
                            ^^ You're so right Skel...

                            Shlemenko may get bullied again in this fight too.. Having major second thoughts on this main event play now..

                            Just thinking Shlemenko is more skilled and experienced and gets the KO at some point.. Dude was on a massive winning streak before getting sub'd out by Tito Ortiz... Does he lose 2 in a row now???

                            Flip a coin in this match up.. I'm just taking the value now at +105 I guess.. Shlemenko it is......

                            Marcin Held is also the call for sure... Bubba Jenkins too..
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                            • Bava
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by Napes21
                              Would you like to bet me 1000 BP whether I suggested making a play off those notes? Bava can be judge.
                              Napes, I like the cut of your j- your style, but your damn profile pic has been making my privates go public at the very worst times, and now my record is well-documented.
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                              • MD
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Napes21
                                Tis why I am not using them for betting on this fight mon frere - nothing there for me to act on
                                I wasn't assuming you were, just offering some constructive criticism. I used to make the mistake in poker of taking down my feelings and interpretations of a player, rather than specific courses of action he took. Poker actually helped me iron out quite a few mistakes before transitioning to sports betting, very valuable experience.
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                                • MD
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Napes21
                                  Honestly I can't remember Halsey's fights but my notes on him from his last fight (that I haven't gone back and rewatched) are as follows - do with those what you will - not sure how/if I'm betting this one:
                                  Very aggressive and strong, decent wrestling, can grind if necessary, good TDs, nice armbar
                                  now spin it

                                  give me my 1000 bet coins or whatevor
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                                  • rocky16
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                                    #52
                                    Held and Halsey are the plays jooboys.
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                                    • MD
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by rocky16
                                      Held and Halsey are the plays jooboys.
                                      Correct.
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                                      • Napes21
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by MD
                                        I wasn't assuming you were, just offering some constructive criticism. I used to make the mistake in poker of taking down my feelings and interpretations of a player, rather than specific courses of action he took. Poker actually helped me iron out quite a few mistakes before transitioning to sports betting, very valuable experience.
                                        I appreciate the tip - I keep notes on dudes for angles to play on lesser known dudes and assist me in setting my lines on fights I cap - sometimes I don't wind up having anything meaningful/useful for a given matchup - my notes on Halsey were admittedly rather scarse - although I see you used them to lock in your play - GL
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                                        • MD
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Napes21
                                          I appreciate the tip - I keep notes on dudes for angles to play on lesser known dudes and assist me in setting my lines on fights I cap - sometimes I don't wind up having anything meaningful/useful for a given matchup - my notes on Halsey were admittedly rather scarse - although I see you used them to lock in your play - GL
                                          Nah, trailing people is outdated pal. I have a new system I've been working on; a predictive model, you could call it.

                                          It's 0-1 so far with a loss in the Giants game last night, but I'm sure that's just variance.
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                                          • Vaughany
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                                            #56
                                            Hehe
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                                            • Napes21
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by MD
                                              now spin it

                                              give me my 1000 bet coins or whatevor
                                              Not interested in engaging in a real back and forth bro - think my initial statement speaks for itself and the bet post was my poor attempt at humor - I don't want to take your betpoints as you fronted me in the tourney after all and I spin shit for a living in my day job - not on here.
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                                              • Jim_Gunn
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                                                #58
                                                My Bellator action tonight:

                                                Bellator 126 Risk $176.00


                                                Brandon Halsey (+100) vs Alexander Shlemenko $50.00 for $50.00
                                                Halsey wins in round 1 (+550) $5.00 for $27.50
                                                Halsey/Shlemenko Over 1½ (-180) $45.00 for $25.00
                                                Halsey wins by 5 round decision (+471) $10.00 for $47.10

                                                Marcin Held (-115) vs Patricky Freire $46.00 for $40.00
                                                Held wins in round 2 (+600) $5.00 for $30.00

                                                Thiago Meller (+240) vs Bubba Jenkins $15.00 for $36.00
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  #59
                                                  Lol Estevan Payan KO'd after 30 secs by Campos!
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by MD
                                                    Nah, trailing people is outdated pal. I have a new system I've been working on; a predictive model, you could call it.

                                                    It's 0-1 so far with a loss in the Giants game last night, but I'm sure that's just variance.
                                                    Your model is 3-1 so far, you just didn't use all available data to backtest it.
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                                                    • Jim_Gunn
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                                                      #61
                                                      Titan FC 30 Risk $191.00

                                                      Jason Brilz (+166) vs Vinnie Magalhaes $60.00 for $99.60
                                                      Vinny Magalhaes (-165) vs Jason Brilz $66.00 for $40.00
                                                      Brilz/Magalhaes Over 1½ (-160) $40.00 for $25.00

                                                      Parlay:
                                                      Mike Richman (-250) at Bellator 126 + Anthony Gutierrez (-230) $25.00 for $25.22
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                                                      • Vaughany
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                                                        • 03-07-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        Lol Estevan Payan KO'd after 30 secs by Campos!
                                                        Haha Jamie Varner jus uploaded it to youtube... http://youtu.be/CozZ2EfxBXc

                                                        And said...


                                                        Jamie Varner
                                                        27 mins · Scottsdale, AZ, United States ·
                                                        Ha ha ha and he goes to sleep again! If you know me well, you know what I'm talking about! Karma baby
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                                                        • Vaughany
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                                                          #63
                                                          Wonder how much gaberz would lf had on payan?!
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                                                          • Jim_Gunn
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                                                            #64
                                                            I wish the books offered odds on Campos over Payan. I definitely would have bet that.
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                                                            • MD
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Napes21
                                                              Not interested in engaging in a real back and forth bro - think my initial statement speaks for itself and the bet post was my poor attempt at humor - I don't want to take your betpoints as you fronted me in the tourney after all and I spin shit for a living in my day job - not on here.
                                                              You don't say?



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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                #66
                                                                Jamie Varner... He hurt one of my Ammy's on purpose so he deserves it!
                                                                15-7 with 5 losses by Ko or Tko he needs to hang it up
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                                                                • MD
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  Jamie Varner... He hurt one of my Ammy's on purpose so he deserves it!
                                                                  15-7 with 5 losses by Ko or Tko he needs to hang it up
                                                                  Where is he saying this? Doesn't seem to be Twitter.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    It's a damn shame they don't have the prelims up on the board at 5d or others.. Could have cleaned up on that....

                                                                    Game time in 30 minutes!!!!!
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                                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Skel
                                                                      Richman's had some tough luck recently in losing close decisions to talented guys. I agree that he should be favored here but I like taking a shot on West at those odds. This is Richman's first fight at 135 and he may have trouble with the cut (though I doubt it) and/or dealing with the speed difference at the new weight class. I don't see West finishing him but he could kick his way to a decision. He had a close split decision with Dantas, after all.
                                                                      Richman has wanted to fight @ 135 for about a year and a half now. Bellator told him that he would get a pay cut if he fought @ 135 so he stayed @ 145 till Coker gave him the OK.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by MD
                                                                        Where is he saying this? Doesn't seem to be Twitter.
                                                                        He's texting me it. We go way back since wec days when we used to chat on faceyb and myspace!
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