MMA News for September 4th through September 31st

[marzwoody]

How does he expect to win split decisions against bigger guys? Bad move Benson.

Benson is a stud. even if he lost me money in his last fight. hint there not that much bigger hence its his natural weight.

[marzwoody]

penetrate tht dawwwg, guy made Khabilov look like a chump. dude is still legit...can I get an Amennnnnnnnnnnn

Hes tight with jesus bro. he even has wings on his back so he can hang out up there. hes the real deal.

[Napes21]

I'm very disappointed in this forum - how is TUF Latin America on Episode No. 5 already and I didn't even know it had started? Great advertising job by UFC too.

[PunisherIND]

I'm very disappointed in this forum - how is TUF Latin America on Episode No. 5 already and I didn't even know it had started? Great advertising job by UFC too.

busy watching muff tuf

[NunyaBidness]

I'm very disappointed in this forum - how is TUF Latin America on Episode No. 5 already and I didn't even know it had started? Great advertising job by UFC too.

Do either of the coaches in Tuf Latin American even speak Spanish?

[Vaughany]

Mucho poco espanyolo

[marzwoody]

My girl fighting in mexico!

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/09/jessica-eye-vs-leslie-smith-booked-for-ufc-180-in-mexico-city

[Sacrelicious]

Do either of the coaches in Tuf Latin American even speak Latin?

Fixed it for you

[marzwoody]

Vice is retarded.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/fallon-fox-is-a-woman-get-over-it-925?utm_source=vicefbuk

[Vaughany]

Vice is retarded.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/fallo...ource=vicefbuk

Seen the freak tht wrote it. Remember when vice was cool. I bet her attitude would be different if her sister or daughter was stepping in to the cage with fallon fox

[Napes21]

Finally getting around to watching Titan - Firas and Bonnar might be the worst MMA broadcast duo ever - as much as I despise Mauro think I prefer him to Bonnar

[marzwoody]

Seen the freak tht wrote it. Remember when vice was cool. I bet her attitude would be different if her sister or daughter was stepping in to the cage with fallon fox

Vice is a mix of really cool documentarys (mostly involving shane smith) and just complete trash meant to generate views

Looking at Paris Lees posts makes my brain hurt.

[MD]

Vice is retarded.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/fallo...ource=vicefbuk

I'm not going to argue about the science of Fox's physical advantages, I'm not knowledgable enough, but I'd assume that she carries some sort of advantage, large or minute, because of her history as a male. Perhaps I'm incorrect, but that's what I think. I've seen conflicting scientific reports, so I'll wait on something more concrete before changing that view.

With that said, she is correct that "male" and "female" are pretty broad in a sporting context, and hard to define. It has become abundantly clear in the last decade or so that it is impossible to separate everyone into male/female categories; intersex people do exist, and there are millions of people who, often naturally, do not fit into either the male or female category.

[marzwoody]

I'm not going to argue about the science of Fox's physical advantages, I'm not knowledgable enough, but I'd assume that she carries some sort of advantage, large or minute, because of her history as a male. Perhaps I'm incorrect, but that's what I think. I've seen conflicting scientific reports, so I'll wait on something more concrete before changing that view.

With that said, she is correct that "male" and "female" are pretty broad in a sporting context, and hard to define. It has become abundantly clear in the last decade or so that it is impossible to separate everyone into male/female categories; intersex people do exist, and there are millions of people who, often naturally, do not fit into either the male or female category.

I agree completely with Rogans thoughts on the psychical advantages a transgender person has versus women in MMA.

[MD]

I agree completely with Rogans thoughts on the psychical advantages a transgender person has versus women in MMA.

Yeah, Rogan seems like a knowledgeable guy in this area.

[Vaughany]

I'm not going to argue about the science of Fox's physical advantages, I'm not knowledgable enough, but I'd assume that she carries some sort of advantage, large or minute, because of her history as a male. Perhaps I'm incorrect, but that's what I think. I've seen conflicting scientific reports, so I'll wait on something more concrete before changing that view.

With that said, she is correct that "male" and "female" are pretty broad in a sporting context, and hard to define. It has become abundantly clear in the last decade or so that it is impossible to separate everyone into male/female categories; intersex people do exist, and there are millions of people who, often naturally, do not fit into either the male or female category.

I think u are safe in tht assumption!

[Vaughany]

Yeah, Rogan seems like a knowledgeable guy in this area.

Lol

well, he has had shiiit loads of hormone alterations himself to be fair!

[MD]

I think u are safe in tht assumption!

Not at all. I'd never defend it, it's just blind conjecture. Let's not confuse broscience with reality, "you can change your body but you can't change your sex" used to be a valid and widely-accepted argument, and we now know that it's utterly retarded.

I would not be shocked to learn that Fox has no discernible advantage over a born-female fighter.

[MD]

Lol

well, he has had shiiit loads of hormone alterations himself to be fair!

He's a freak, and shouldn't be allowed to compete in the harsh testosterone-fuelled world of colour commentating. Too big an advantage.

[NunyaBidness]

http://mmajunkie.com/events/battlegrounds-mma-o-n-e

Interesting lineup/idea. Unfortunately we probably won't get lines for it.

[Vaughany]

Not at all. I'd never defend it, it's just blind conjecture. Let's not confuse broscience with reality, "you can change your body but you can't change your sex" used to be a valid and widely-accepted argument, and we now know that it's utterly retarded.

I would not be shocked to learn that Fox has no discernible advantage over a born-female fighter.

Natural physical strength just suddenly disappears after the change?

[Vaughany]

http://mmajunkie.com/events/battlegrounds-mma-o-n-e

Interesting lineup/idea. Unfortunately we probably won't get lines for it.

Probably be a lot of value with opponent TBA. Looks like he will be fighting nearly everybody though so fatigue could be an issue though. Seems a bit unfair

[Vaughany]

[MD]

Natural physical strength just suddenly disappears after the change?

From that article:

"Medical experts say no. Last year, Dr. Eric Vilain—director of the Institute for Society and Genetics at UCLA—examined Fallon’s medical records and pointed out that “male to female transsexuals have significantly less muscle strength and bone density, and higher fat mass, than males." She’s totally within the normal female range in terms of height, fitness, and strength.

Which is why, no doubt, the Association of Boxing Commissioners ruled last year that there is no advantage for trans fighters. And why the International Olympic Committee says it's OK for trans athletes to compete two years after they've had surgery."

So, maybe; I'm sure there are doctors who would claim the opposite, also. Not saying Fox has no advantage over a born-female, but I'm saying that it's possible that she doesn't. It would be ignorant for us to assume that she has a definite advantage, let's not put too much faith in gut instinct here.

[marzwoody]

Wow the women get paid nothing. fight pass prelims get paid more.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/29/6865269/ufc-178-salaries-conor-mcgregor-cashes-in-with-quick-win-over-dustin

[Skel]

C*nt Le got popped for HGH. Suspended for 9 months.

[Educ8d Degener8]

C*nt Le got popped for HGH. Suspended for 9 months.

Shocking... considering how soft he looked for the Bisping fight.

[jacktheknife]

Yeah, Rogan seems like a knowledgeable guy in this area.

He's not, and he got destroyed by people who did. http://www.cagepotato.com/joe-rogans...e-not-science/

The actual reasons to be skeptical of Fox's absolutism came from actual PhD Roxi Sexton. http://rosisexton.wordpress.com/2013...x-controversy/

[jacktheknife]

C*nt Le got popped for HGH. Suspended for 9 months.

Prepare for a flood of Brain Stann apologies. Because internet critics are like that.

[marzwoody]

He's not, and he got destroyed by people who did. http://www.cagepotato.com/joe-rogans...e-not-science/

The actual reasons to be skeptical of Fox's absolutism came from actual PhD Roxi Sexton. http://rosisexton.wordpress.com/2013...x-controversy/

Rogan had valid points, and Rosi pretty much repeated everything he said with more detail.

[MD]

He's not, and he got destroyed by people who did. http://www.cagepotato.com/joe-rogans...e-not-science/

The actual reasons to be skeptical of Fox's absolutism came from actual PhD Roxi Sexton. http://rosisexton.wordpress.com/2013...x-controversy/

It's a beautiful ting.

[Vaughany]

Prepare for a flood of Brain Stann apologies. Because internet critics are like that.

yeah cos it was so obvious that he wasnt on anything

[marzwoody]

Suspension is nothing. probably wasen't going to fight in those 9 months anyway. took the money and left.

[Vaughany]

yeee

[Bumdeal]

The future champ returns in March

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/1/6878611/ufc-undefeated-lightweight-khabib-nurmagomedov-aims-for-march-return-mma-news