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  • MD
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    • 01-31-12
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    #1
    UFC 177: Dillashaw vs Soto
    Sherdog ‏@TheSherdoggy 2m
    .@joesotomma will be taking on @TJDillashaw for the bantamweight title at #UFC177. Check @sherdogdotcom for story.

    Man, TJ Dillashaw has nothing for Joe Soto, this is going to be f-cking intense.

    Line predictions?
  • Nick Papageorgio
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    • 01-07-12
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    #2
    Now we see what TJ is made of. Perfect time for a slip up? Make this card free!?!?
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    • Beelzebubzy
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      • 06-06-11
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      #3
      Soto +250
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      • Keyboard Warrior
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        #4
        finally a real main event
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        • PunisherIND
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          • 02-24-11
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          #5
          would be awesome if soto becomes ufc champion while receiving a $6,000 show purse
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          • PunisherIND
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            • 02-24-11
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            #6
            Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
            Now we see what TJ is made of. Perfect time for a slip up? Make this card free!?!?
            seriously, just throw the shite on fight pass.
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            • Keyboard Warrior
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              #7
              ufc cant they have contracts and with the ppv providers to show something
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              • Jim_Gunn
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                • 11-20-13
                • 542

                #8
                Call me crazy but I'm going to throw a few bucks on Soto just for the penetrate of it.
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                • NunyaBidness
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                  • 07-26-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PunisherIND
                  seriously, just throw the shite on fight pass.
                  F You pal, I wanna live bet it.
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                  • PunisherIND
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                    • 02-24-11
                    • 4983

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
                    ufc cant they have contracts and with the ppv providers to show something
                    Yea, I'm sure its a logistical nightmare. But they've cancelled ppvs before. Why cant they leave dillz off the card and chuck it on fp?

                    Only reason theyre giving soto a title shot is so they can justify the ppv.
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                    • Keyboard Warrior
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                      • 06-07-14
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                      #11
                      Rating Action:Moody's assigns Ba3 rating to Zuffa's (Ba3 CFR) new bank debt; rating outlook changed to stableGlobal Credit Research - 07 Feb 2013New York, February 07, 2013 -- Moody's Investors Service assigned a Ba3 (LGD4, 51%) rating to Zuffa, LLC's (Zuffa) (Ba3 Corporate Family Rating) new senior secured credit facility, comprising a $60 million 5-year revolving facility and a $450 million 7-year Term Loan B. Net proceeds will be used to refinance its existing debt, including a $463 million senior secured Term Loan B due 2015 (rated Ba3) and $50 million revolver maturing in 2015. Moody's also changed Zuffa's rating outlook to stable from positive due to higher than expected volatility in the company's revenue and profits, as well as higher leverage. The company's Ba3 CFR and Ba3-PD PDR (Probability of Default Rating) remain unchanged.In Moody's view, the company's cash flow volatility is due to the reliance on a few number of sporting events per period and the consequent vulnerability to the underperformance or cancellation of any single event. The cancellation of one of the ten planned pay-per-view (PPV) events in North America in 2012 led to material EBITDA underperformance for Zuffa, despite the significantly higher television broadcast rights fees garnered in the year. While the company has made important strides in the diversification of its revenue sources and increase in contractual revenue, particularly through its multi-year television licensing deal with Fox in 2011, over half of its revenue is still derived from PPV events. In addition, Zuffa's PPV events have experienced declining buys per event at the same time the company has increased the number of live broadcast and cable television events. We believe that increased television programming may continue to dampen growth in PPV revenue in the coming years. .As a result of the unexpected challenges in 2012, the company's debt-to-EBITDA leverage (including Moody's standard adjustments) increased to 4.6x at year end 2012 from 3.3x in 2011, instead of declining to under 3.0x as was expected earlier in the year. This volatility in credit metrics constrains the company's ratings to the Ba3 category, despite its substantial growth opportunities in international markets and contracted increases in television rights fees well into the intermediate term. In the absence of further unanticipated challenges, we expect Zuffa to de-lever steadily over time to under 3.0x based on solely EBITDA growth. However, we believe that management is likely to utilize the incremental debt capacity under its current rating to invest in acquisitions or other growth opportunities, or increase distributions to its owners as it has done in the past, and maintain leverage above 2.5x.The following is a summary of today's rating actions:



                      cant imagine what will happen with two ppv's canceled in one month. Maybe time to bump my ufc is dying thread?
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                      • MD
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                        • 01-31-12
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                        Yea, I'm sure its a logistical nightmare. But they've cancelled ppvs before. Why cant they leave dillz off the card and chuck it on fp?

                        Only reason theyre giving soto a title shot is so they can justify the ppv.
                        They cancelled 176. This can't happen. Even if Dillashaw pulls out next.
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                        • Skel
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                          • 03-04-14
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                          #13
                          Probably won't even go to the bar for this one.
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                          • Dwil125
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                            • 11-08-12
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                            #14
                            Wow what a ufc debut.
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                            • Educ8d Degener8
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                              #15
                              August 7, 2014:

                              "Joe Soto apparently hasn’t convinced the UFC that he’s a worthy addition to the promotion’s bantamweight division. Despite winning the vacant Tachi Palace Fights title and his past five fights on the California regional scene, the ex-Bellator champ told MMAjunkie Radio he’s no closer to a UFC deal. Negotiations earlier this year to sign him apparently weren’t successful. “I’m just trying to figure out what I’ve got to do to get signed, and other than that, I guess I just have to keep winning,” Soto (14-2) said. “One of these days they’ll call, I guess.”..."



                              LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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                              • marzwoody
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                                • 01-03-14
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                                #16
                                Diden't even know who Soto was. had to wiki him. looks like a bum. card is less exciting. oh well.
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                                • Dwil125
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                                  • 11-08-12
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                                  #17
                                  people are missing weight now too, this is crazy. I bet soto isnt 135 flat because he didnt know he would have to be on or under.
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                                  • Vaughany
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                                    • 03-07-10
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                                    #18
                                    Cant make it up,
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                                    • Skel
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                                      • 03-04-14
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                                      #19
                                      0.6 units main event U1.5 rounds +150 to make things interesting.
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                                      • Jim_Gunn
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                                        • 11-20-13
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Skel
                                        0.6 units main event U1.5 rounds +150 to make things interesting.
                                        I just did the same thing for .5 units.
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                                        • rocky16
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                                          • 07-22-12
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                                          #21
                                          I think I'll trim my ball hairs tomorrow night.
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                                          • Keyboard Warrior
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                                            #22



















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                                            • Keyboard Warrior
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior


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                                              • Thor4140
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                                                • 02-09-08
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Skel
                                                Probably won't even go to the bar for this one.
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                                                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                  • 01-31-13
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                                                  #25
                                                  When are the props for Soto vs Dillashaw coming out? I bet Soto via Submission is going to be juicy!
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                                                  • Das Jax
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                                                    • 09-23-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Pfff, that over is a gift.
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                                                    • GunShard
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                                                      • 03-05-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Dillashaw opened at -1500.
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                                                      • Karmaphobia
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                                                        • 06-24-14
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Das Jax
                                                        Pfff, that over is a gift.
                                                        Kinda thinkin' the same thing
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                                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                                          #29
                                                          Im on the over at -170

                                                          If that drops, im going to hit it again.
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                                                          • Crassus
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                                                            #30
                                                            I threw 1% on Joe Soto at +825, couldn't resist.
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                                                            • UncleChael
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                                                              • 10-30-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              Throw the other 4% on the over and make your money back, bud. Dude just knocked out the GOAT FOR +2500!!! and walked away with his belt.
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                                                              • Dwil125
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                                                                • 11-08-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                Haha they had to move the fight pass fight to fs1. I thought they were serious at first about keeping it in on fight pass
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                                                                • Crassus
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                  Throw the other 4% on the over and make your money back, bud. Dude just knocked out the GOAT FOR +2500!!! and walked away with his belt.
                                                                  Naw, the O/U is too dependent on a lot of things. Dillashaw could be super aggressive or super cautious, same with Soto. Can't make any judgement calls on that. I do know that Soto is a gamer and has like a 11.5%-12% chance of winning rather than 10%.
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                                                                  • UncleChael
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Throw it on the Under then.. and let's see what happens, dude its gonna take Dillashaw's title with a 6k Purse, doubt it haha. I so hope you were on TJ when he whooped Barao. I don't mind taking the juice on the over with "Joe Soto the Gamer".
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                                                                    • Crassus
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                                                                      • 01-08-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                      Throw it on the Under then.. and let's see what happens, dude its gonna take Dillashaw's title with a 6k Purse, doubt it haha. I so hope you were on TJ when he whooped Barao. I don't mind taking the juice on the over with "Joe Soto the Gamer".
                                                                      Yeah, with Dillashaw winning 88% of the time, I'm doubting it too.
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