Lentz +150 against Charle Oliveira? Hmmmm
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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#37You think Lentz has improved enough to make it worth a bet? Oliveira clowned him last time.Originally posted by VaughanyLentz +150 against Charle Oliveira? HmmmmComment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#38Lentz was trainin like a chump back then. Hes made significant strides since moving down on weight and going to ATT. Plus oliveira seems a lot more fragile nowadays.Comment -
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#39Not to mention oliviera has been doing well and presumably improving.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#40Thts just a generic statement, could say the same about lentz!Originally posted by mmaedNot to mention oliviera has been doing well and presumably improving.Comment -
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#41Oliviera is a hard guy to grind against.Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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#42Yeah, I read that article too.Originally posted by VaughanyLentz was trainin like a chump back then. Hes made significant strides since moving down on weight and going to ATT. Plus oliveira seems a lot more fragile nowadays.
Lentz has definitely improved, but I'm not sure if its that much. Seems like a tough matchup for him.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#43Absolutely agree tht stylistically it doesnt bode well. He is going to have to stun /hurt oliveira earlyish on in order to prevent oliveira From tooling him off his back and reversing position...locking in triangles etc,,, perhaps the chances of lentz hurting oliveira to slow him down isnt high enough to warrant a play at these odds come to think of it. And he hasnt faced anybody anywhere near as dangerous off their back as Oliveira is since their last fight.Comment -
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#44LOL Bumdeal.... Maybe Nunya wins it all now..Originally posted by BumdealCarefully constructed scenario to get him out of his match with Nunya..
I did post my picks prior to jumping ship but then the card got scrambled anyways.. 
PS.. I'm leaning towards Oliveira in this one... I don't think Lentz can beat him even after improving like V said... Tough match up for Lentz.. I'm looking at parlay'ing him up with Derick Lewis in a 2 teamer myself.....Comment -
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#45Im also not properly considering the level of fighter tht Has been making oliveira look "fragile". At the end of the day those guys tht made him look like a bitch were swanson and cerrone which is nothing tombe ashamed about obviously. My initial inkling was tht lentz could repeat what edgar did but again perhaps they are still much further apart in terms of standup ability (especially footwork) and submission defense then what is needed.Comment -
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#46took chuck -135 -140 -145. and ovr 2.5 -128Comment -
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#47Liddell?Comment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
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#48i've made alot bettin chucky aloe vera fights
still cant beleive i took iceman vs rampage
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BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
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#49I have a solution to judging? All main card fights should just be 3-10 minute rds, championship fights 5-10 minute rds for ppv at least
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#50Joe Lauzon at +120 is a very tempting bet.... Thinking of pulling the trigger on that one.. Need to cap it a bit more still...Comment -
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#51I'm on Lauzon.Comment -
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#52Lauzon is the smart bet.Comment -
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#53I didn't know he was back. What's the line and who he is fighting? I don't know who is he fighting but there is probably a ton of value on him at anything better than -1000.Originally posted by VaughanyLiddell?Comment -
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#54Oliveria is way too much for Lentz. Lentz is solid but Oliveria is too much for him on the ground.
Lentz will look to keep this standing and go for cheap TDs at the end of rounds. Oliveria beat him as a boy last time. I think Oliveria gained a lot of confidence in the Frankie fight.Comment -
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#55Maybe Marz, Joe did go the distance with guys like Jim Miller and Michael Johnson recently so he's a gamer.. Well rounded seasoned vet for sure..Originally posted by marzwoodyLauzon is the smart bet.
Luckily for Joe he's not fighting a guy in Cheisa that has big KO power. Cheisa is a ground guy and probably gets top position when it goes there which is never a good thing... Standing Joe might get the better of Cheisa though.. Joe is not a Rummy on the ground but off his back I don't think he can sub out Cheisa.. Tough fight to call as I've been trying to cap this one for the last hour or so.. Eeeeks!!!
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If anything this should be a good fight standing or on the ground.. At +120 it's still worth the play on Joe Lauzon I think.. I'm with ya on this one Marz...
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#56Lauzon is the smart bet? I disagree.Comment -
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#57The marz and JIBBBY smart bet.Originally posted by BumdealLauzon is the smart bet? I disagree.Comment -
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#58I can't believe Chuck Liddell is back... unreal.Comment -
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#59MD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?Originally posted by MDThe marz and JIBBBY smart bet.
I didn't say it was a smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...
Joe will battle... I think it's an even bet fight and with that being said you gotta go with the odds on dog for value... THAT'S JOE!!! +120
Oh and Joe has two hands and has been training really hard lately.. Lol..Comment -
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#60Wheres Sider when you need him....Originally posted by JIBBBYMD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?
I didn't say it was smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...
Joe will battle... Oh and he has two hands and has been training really hard.. Lol..Comment -
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#61Yeah, where is Keyboard? I do owe that guy an apology.. I hit the Asian humor a little too hard in the past on this forum.. I need to even out the playing field when attacking races....Originally posted by SacreliciousWheres Sider when you need him....
Still trying to figure out your race Sac???... Pedonese maybe?
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Derrick Lewis vs Matt Mitrione -
I personally think Derrick Lewis is the best bet on the card even being the favorite at -160..
Matt "Meat Head" Mitrione is not going to knock out Derrick Lewis standing in this one.. I really can't see how Meat Head can win this fight other then out working, keeping it standing and winning on points. Don't see that happening though!!! Derrick Lewis has been steadily improving fight to fight and is a BEAST.. Matt should get dropped standing or just beat on laying off his back thru 3...
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#62Joe also has hands and will throw themOriginally posted by JIBBBYMD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?
I didn't say it was a smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...
Joe will battle... I think it's an even bet fight and with that being said you gotta go with the odds on dog for value... THAT'S JOE!!! +120
Oh and Joe has two hands and has been training really hard lately.. Lol..Comment -
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#63Well obviously...Originally posted by JIBBBYMatt "Meat Head" Mitrione is not going to knock out Derrick Lewis standing in this one.. I really can't see how Meat Head can win this fight other then out working, keeping it standing and winning on points. Don't see that happening though!!! Derrick Lewis has been steadily improving fight to fight and is a BEAST.. Matt should get dropped standing or just beat on laying off his back thru 3...
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SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#64JIBBBY is cerebral as penetrate.Comment -
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#65Im in that caterogry as well.Originally posted by MDThe marz and JIBBBY smart bet.
$5.00 $11.25 Pending 3 Team Parlay Win 8/30/14 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1101 Tony Ferguson -260* <small>vs</small> Danny Castillo Pending 9/5/14 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Joe Lauzon +120* <small>vs</small> Michael Chiesa Win 8/29/14 7:00am MMA Fighting 3004 Ben Askren -1500* <small>vs</small> Nobutatsu Suzuki Comment -
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#66Derek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.Comment -
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#67Lol.Originally posted by BumdealDerek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.Comment -
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#68A fuckin black beast. Get it rightComment -
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#69Asian?Originally posted by BumdealDerek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.Comment -
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