Bellator 120: Alvarez vs. Chandler 3 (May 17, 2014)

[fitguy67]

had chandler in more parlays than i realized, that's unfortunate

kind of like having a uniformed public-health officer show up at the clinic you went to cuz "it burns when i pee"...asking for a detailed list of all your horizontal dancing partners of the last 3 months...
the accounting process is very revealing of just how low your standards have become to qualify something as "an ok play"

[Kermit]

And still the biggest docuhebag act in the history of MMA.

[JIBBBY]

^ His after fight WWE speech almost made me want to shoot myself...

Tito is gonna get creamed in his next fight.. This was a lucky win for him I think.. He did not look good standing, his takedowns were predictable and slow..

Will double up against him next fight.. This Tito win last night will only make the odds more favorable in his next match up....That's a good thing when betting against him!!!!! Mark meeeee words mayteees..

[fitguy67]

tito is NOT a force to be reckoned with anymore...he's shot/fried/spent...etc...

last night wasn't a fight...it was a publicity stunt to raise Shlmenko's stock that backfired...

nothing's changed...Shlmenko is still a beast at 185 (but if he ever moved to UFC he'd have to drop to 170)...
and Tito's still shit...

if they scheduled a ridiculous rematch in a few weeks time, i bet the market would overreact the other way and have Shlmenko +335...and, win or lose, it'd be the right play...

last night said nothing/changed nothing about either man...it was a very bad publicity stunt...the sort i wish they'd do more of (from a bettor's perspective)...and less of (from an MMA fan's perspective)

so, if they do put Tito in with almost any top 50 LHW now...you gotta know Tito'd be VERY over-priced by the Dave&Buster's guys and...i'll fade his washed-up ass along with jibby

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BTW, don't anyone make the mistake of thinking that Shlmenko is crap now and fade him because of that boy-vs-man contest...he's still one of the very best 185-or-lower boys in the world

last night's fight meant nothing , outside of reminding people that although skill truly rules...size is never irrelevant

[JIBBBY]

^^ I'm not taking that Tito win too seriously Fitguy67..

He still sucks arse and is a total tomato can in my mind.. I said I will bet against Tito in his next fight.. This win was a fluke..

Besides almost getting embarrassed standing he was gassing out fast in that first round being the BIGGER MAN.. If that fight would have lasted two rounds Tito would have needed an O2 bottle to continue..

Skills are golden.. Size you tend to gas out cutting the weight prior to, then having to carry that muscle weight around in the fight doesn't help matters either if it goes rounds.. Speed can be compromised with muscle and size as well.... Size is overrated.. Cardio is King..

A tired fighter is a beaten fighter!!!!! When dealing with a larger fighter you just need to weather the storm early on in my opinion... Cardio goes first then the will is broken easily after......

[fitguy67]

agreed, we fade Tito's washed-up (and now "trumped up") ass against any non-can the geniuses at bellator come up with!

[begood2]

Bellator should rename as Canator. All their champions are cans. They like to promote themselves as a big organisation but they're really not. They just have the viacom money.

[FightFightFight]

Shitator, or Stupator imo.

[PaperTrail07]

Honestly tito went in and got the WIN all you can ask for really....and put the guy to sleep----I'd take him over anyone that Shlemenko has faced in his last 8-9 fights....

[fitguy67]

to be fair, they didn't start going heavily down the WWE-style "entertainment industry" path until quite recently (long after UFC commited to it), when they announced their first PPV ever involving Rampage and Tito...

before that, their tournament format and pipeline of hi-skill/lo-charisma Eastern-European fighters made Bellator a FAR less commercial, FAR less spin-doctored ("Ronda Rousey is one of the best MMA practitioners of either gender ON PLANET EARTH...should have an over-under prop on how many times those three words will come out of Rogan's mouth on one broadcast,,,but i digress)...

Bellator has always been shorter than the UFC in the overall-talent department...but always tried to compensate for that by being LESS about the entertainment/marketability/etc. bullshit and MORE about the sport...it was the tournament-format selecting the next challenger that kept everything real, everything cohesive...

but since that WWE-style "surprised by Tito" carrying the flag walkout to announce their first "Superfight" PPV attempt...they've gone full-tilt into the bullshit attention-whoring...best example is this latest crap of Quinton ("where and when's my next paycheck") Jackson and Muhammed Lawal PRETENDING (when the cameras are rolling) to hate each other..."bad blood" my ass...it's bad acting and a cringe-worthy reminder that Bellator's decided to downplay the sport and play up the attention-whoring aspects

btw, if you want to pursue this "why/how bellator's going down the drain" angle...i started a thread (by cutting an pasting from here to get started)...

http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/2884691-refreshing-alternative-cheap-imitator-bellators-recent-turn-worse.html

[PaperTrail07]

if attention whoring is paying more--best believe they are gonna do it.......and lets be honest it was entertaining.....seeing Tito put him to sleep brought back memories of the old tito days EVERYONE enjoyed watching....

to be fair, they didn't start going heavily down the WWE-style "entertainment industry" path until quite recently (long after UFC commited to it), when they announced their first PPV ever involving Rampage and Tito...

before that, their tournament format and pipeline of hi-skill/lo-charisma Eastern-European fighters made Bellator a FAR less commercial, FAR less spin-doctored ("Ronda Rousey is one of the best MMA practitioners of either gender ON PLANET EARTH...should have an over-under prop on how many times those three words will come out of Rogan's mouth on one broadcast,,,but i digress)...

Bellator has always been shorter than the UFC in the overall-talent department...but always tried to compensate for that by being LESS about the entertainment/marketability/etc. bullshit and MORE about the sport...it was the tournament-format selecting the next challenger that kept everything real, everything cohesive...

but since that WWE-style "surprised by Tito" carrying the flag walkout to announce their first "Superfight" PPV attempt...they've gone full-tilt into the bullshit attention-whoring...best example is this latest crap of Quinton ("where and when's my next paycheck") Jackson and Muhammed Lawal PRETENDING (when the cameras are rolling) to hate each other..."bad blood" my ass...it's bad acting and a cringe-worthy reminder that Bellator's decided to downplay the sport and play up the attention-whoring aspects

[Thor4140]

if attention whoring is paying more--best believe they are gonna do it.......and lets be honest it was entertaining.....seeing Tito put him to sleep brought back memories of the old tito days EVERYONE enjoyed watching....

i almost felt good for Tito then the Hulk Hogan crap came out of his pie hole and i realize he is still a nitwit.

[mmaed]

to be fair, they didn't start going heavily down the WWE-style "entertainment industry" path until quite recently (long after UFC commited to it), when they announced their first PPV ever involving Rampage and Tito...

before that, their tournament format and pipeline of hi-skill/lo-charisma Eastern-European fighters made Bellator a FAR less commercial, FAR less spin-doctored ("Ronda Rousey is one of the best MMA practitioners of either gender ON PLANET EARTH...should have an over-under prop on how many times those three words will come out of Rogan's mouth on one broadcast,,,but i digress)...

Bellator has always been shorter than the UFC in the overall-talent department...but always tried to compensate for that by being LESS about the entertainment/marketability/etc. bullshit and MORE about the sport...it was the tournament-format selecting the next challenger that kept everything real, everything cohesive...

but since that WWE-style "surprised by Tito" carrying the flag walkout to announce their first "Superfight" PPV attempt...they've gone full-tilt into the bullshit attention-whoring...best example is this latest crap of Quinton ("where and when's my next paycheck") Jackson and Muhammed Lawal PRETENDING (when the cameras are rolling) to hate each other..."bad blood" my ass...it's bad acting and a cringe-worthy reminder that Bellator's decided to downplay the sport and play up the attention-whoring aspects

btw, if you want to pursue this "why/how bellator's going down the drain" angle...i started a thread (by cutting an pasting from here to get started)...

http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma...urn-worse.html

I think mo and lawal legitimately hate each other. I also think bellator is still more legit than the ufc as far as it being a sport goes. You still can go in there and win the tournament in order to win a title shot.

[Vaughany]

i almost felt good for Tito then the Hulk Hogan crap came out of his pie hole and i realize he is still a nitwit.

haha yeah, he over-did it big time! Just started cringing at how he was acting like he'd just won the UFC title or something

[Vaughany]

Gotta hurt

Originally Posted by TheBasedGod 5/17/2014 11:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3001 Muhammed Lawal* +200 vs Quinton Jackson 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3101 Will Brooks* +700 vs Michael Chandler 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3201 Tito Ortiz* +418 vs Alexander Shlemenko 5/17/2014 9:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3501 Eric Smith/Cheick Kongo* Over 1½ +140 Risking $100.00 To Win $29,736.80 May = month of the upsets easy money IMHO

[Vaughany]

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

I care about the men of this organization (bellator), their well being, and equal treatment. So I'll be the bad guy for them and speak up

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

Like I said people are going to hate me, love me, disagree with me, agree me, and honestly I'm ok with whatever. Goodnight

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

Sorry everyone I'll stop ranting I'm just a very passionate person and I believe people aren't looking deep enough into things. Goodnight

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

I've said what I have to say again agree or disagree with the judges I honestly don't care. I 100% just want the best for the fighters/sport

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

I just want the best for the fighters of this sport not the organizations. The fighters and the sport should be first at all times

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

I took the fight against Chandler because I believe 100% that it's time for a change in the organization so I put myself out there

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

Some people believe Chandler beat me and that's fine your entitled to your opinions. But this fight I took wasn't about a win or the belt

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 8h

We the fighters break our necks, grind, suffer, and sacrifice in the gym to battle and entertain. And for what? To be taken advantage of

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

But I'm focused on changing things for the fighters in the organization because there's talent in Bellator that's getting over looked

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

Chandler/Alvarez are only worried about fighting each other and making their money and more power to them for that can't hate them for it.

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

I paid Chandler respect said "with or without a belt Chandler is a champion still" he can't show the same respect fine lets do it again bro

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

It's all BS and the people know it and the fighters. Like me or hate me I'm going to force change in this organization or be fired

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

My GF, family, friends, coach, teammates, and fans support me as if I'm a champion belt or no belt so I'm no tripping

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

I honestly don't need the Bellator belt to be champion I just want to get better as a fighter and change the way things work now.

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

Bjorn's not going to send 1 of Bellator's poster boys to the back of the line and back in the tournament. Let's stop playing games

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Will Brooks @illwillbrooks86 · 9h

Like it or not I won the belt. I don't care what Bjorn or Bellator does next, go do Chandler/Alvarez III I don't care #nofucksaregiven

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[PaperTrail07]

lol for sure...he earned that 30 seconds...

i almost felt good for Tito then the Hulk Hogan crap came out of his pie hole and i realize he is still a nitwit.

[PaperTrail07]

holy shit..SO SO close..I did it and hit with 7 $$ can only imagine betting 100...I hit at 147:1.....

Gotta hurt

Originally Posted by TheBasedGod 5/17/2014 11:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3001 Muhammed Lawal* +200 vs Quinton Jackson 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3101 Will Brooks* +700 vs Michael Chandler 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3201 Tito Ortiz* +418 vs Alexander Shlemenko 5/17/2014 9:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3501 Eric Smith/Cheick Kongo* Over 1½ +140 Risking $100.00 To Win $29,736.80 May = month of the upsets easy money IMHO

[marzwoody]

Stop hating on Tito. he is clearly the best fighter outside of the UFC after beating a guy half his size that i have never heard off. fade him if you dare.

[TheCalculator]

Gotta hurt

Originally Posted by TheBasedGod 5/17/2014 11:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3001 Muhammed Lawal* +200 vs Quinton Jackson 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3101 Will Brooks* +700 vs Michael Chandler 5/17/2014 10:30 PM Bellator Fighting 3201 Tito Ortiz* +418 vs Alexander Shlemenko 5/17/2014 9:00 PM Bellator Fighting 3501 Eric Smith/Cheick Kongo* Over 1½ +140 Risking $100.00 To Win $29,736.80 May = month of the upsets easy money IMHO

BIG TIME. He should of hit.

[mmaed]

BIG TIME. He should of hit.

That makes me feel bad.

[JIBBBY]

Vaughaneeeeeey....

That was some silly dialog spewing out on Wil Brooks twitter account.. Rambling on about change or some crap? Hmmm?

[PaperTrail07]

it really does.....I would have dropped on the gambling floor might have been dragged out like a dead body....

That makes me feel bad.