UFC Fight Night: Machida Vs Munoz (October 26, 2013)

[mmaed]

Im liking craig, machida and potentially lineker so far. Most likely jimmo as well.

[Thor4140]

That's my kind of thinking. You're all right, Thor.

[Vaughany]

Guillard has more speed and power but he is a moron. Pearson has the tools to win so for me its a no bet. Maybe pearson plus 3.5 points would be worth it if you could get a great melvin by ko hedge.

Craig vs barnatt: i dont know much about barnatt. I still have to see his fight against colin hart. From what i read it was competitive. I did a little reseach on colin hart and on paper he doesnt look that impressive. Im going to have to watch the tape but at this point i am thinking craig is probably a solid bet. He has a good ground game, wrestling that might be good enough to take barnatt down, a brown belt in jiu jitsu and hes tough as nails. Im actually suprised by the line. Granted, craigs line is padded with great luck. Noke blew out his knee in their fight and natal was beating his ass before he lost.

I think machida trounces munoz. Munoz is just too damn slow for machida. His wrestling hasnt transitioned to mma very well either. On top of that i see him getting tired by the fourth and fifth rounds which will compound his lack of speed. Machida ITD is a really good bet in my opinion for the reason i mentioned last. Oh yeah, munoz striking sucks as well. So hes slow, his striking sucks, and he will probably be tired from chasing machida by the fourth round. I cant see him winning unless he lands a luck shot on machida.

Manuwa vs jimmo. I think jimmo is the much more talented fighter, by a huge margin. The only problem is manuwa hit kyle kinsbury so hard it made me feel bad for him. He hits like a truck and could catch jimmo. The positive is jimmos style is karate based like machidas and usually revolves around svoiding strikes and landing lone counters which could prove cery effective against manuwa. On top of that manuwa will probably gas before the fight is over. That is my hunch at least. He is heavily muscled. I like jimmo at dog odds and i like him itd as well. Fight doesnt go to decision is probably a good bet as well. The reasons being manuwas power, jimmos power and the likelyhood that manuwa wilk gas amd get koed or submitted.

Phil harris vs john lineker: lineker is a beast. Phill harris seems somewhat decent though. He has a lot of submissions on his record as well. I expect lineker to knock him out in this one but phils submission ability makes me a little nervous given the fact that lineker was recently tapped out. Granted i think that was his ufc debut.

Kuiper vs brad scott: i read brad scotts bio, thats about as much as i know about him. He normally fights at 170. He had a southwest muay thai title. No idea how good that is. It says he started training in the royal navy to get in shape. Hes 24 so that would mean hes only been training for a coupe of years unless he started muay thai as a youth. I amnguessing kuiper wins this one handily but it would be worth watching his fiht against robert whitaker becaus he is pretty decent.

haha That might as well be called "The Country Bumpkins Muay thai Title"! The "Southwest" consists of places like Herefordshire and Gloucestershire, they probably train by kicking sheep and hay-bales.

[mmaed]

Lol thank you vaughny. I honestly would have never figud that out and I tried.

[Vaughany]

Anybody else thinkin tht cole miller should be runnin through andy ogle?!

[mirinquads]

Yep, but cant believe the lines that close.

Watch him get wrestlefucked now though.

[Noleafclover]

Anyone seen footage of Whiteford in danger of being subbed? Which fight if so.

[Noleafclover]

OK Whiteford on 1week notice, that makes this line make more sense. Still, with that record, wonder if the UFC had told him to be expecting a call, like they did with whats-his-face, the downsy lookin dude who put on both fight and 3rd-round sub of the night a couple cards back.

[Noleafclover]

Going to fade Guillard, I think. Pearson isn't exactly my favorite selection for a title run, but at +130 I'll take him over a fighter like Melvin.

If you like Pearson and haven't taken yet, o1.5 -140 is like Pearson+ imo, without losing too much from current line.

[Noleafclover]

Literally anyone can beat Machida. He may be one of the p4p most skilled fighters in MMA, but going to decision will be the death of his career.

I think after the controversy the judges will be more on it about grading Machida correctly. In fact, I could see a sympathy vote here in a close fight because, "well, he's the better fighter, and it was close enough." Unfair to Munoz? Yes. Beyond the pale for human behavior? Not a bit.

Only thing that's making me hesitate about not machida dec -298.

[MD]

I think after the controversy the judges will be more on it about grading Machida correctly. In fact, I could see a sympathy vote here in a close fight because, "well, he's the better fighter, and it was close enough." Unfair to Munoz? Yes. Beyond the pale for human behavior? Not a bit.

Only thing that's making me hesitate about not machida dec -298.

He almost lost to Henderson in a fight that Henderson's own mom probably thought he lost, and he lost to Rampage in a fight that he clearly won. The judges don't like his style, but they don't always Jew him, probably because he's only half Asian.

[The iron sheik]

Still bitter about Machida-Shogun I

[Noleafclover]

Gotten to be sort of a thing now.

[Das Jax]

The dolloway decision was the worst Ive ever seen. The machida davis couldve gone either way. Not a robbery at all.

These are both horrible opinions.

[Das Jax]

A lot of good prop plays on this card. Chief among them, not Machida 1st round at -420 and fight starts round 2 at -352. Surest thing to a lock that I've seen in some time.

[Noleafclover]

So the key to unraveling the Whiteford-Hettes mystery is the Whiteford-Fawcett fight. Any info, obliged. Any interest, I'll explain.

[omalley21]

A lot of good prop plays on this card. Chief among them, not Machida 1st round at -420 and fight starts round 2 at -352. Surest thing to a lock that I've seen in some time.

How ironic.

[MD]

How ironic.

I was just thinking the exact same thing.

[Vaughany]

[Vaughany]

Lineker over-weight as usual..2lbs this time

[Das Jax]

I was just thinking the exact same thing.

Good ol' MD... some things never change.

[mirinquads]

Thoughts? That looks nasty, and with the lesion on the right side too..

[MD]

Lineker over-weight as usual..2lbs this time

Three times in, what, five fights? They should cut him win or lose. The guy has no fight IQ and, presumably, no actual IQ, either.

[Thor4140]

He almost lost to Henderson in a fight that Henderson's own mom probably thought he lost, and he lost to Rampage in a fight that he clearly won. The judges don't like his style, but they don't always Jew him, probably because he's only half Asian.

NObody thought Rampage would win and they give him the decision (Machida the heavy bet fighter). Nobody thought Davis would win and they give Davis the decision. (Machida once again the heavily bet favorite) Now Hendo is a fan favorite so money would be on him unlike the other two Machida fights. Machida gets the decision. Are you guys getting this now? This really should be easy to see.

[PunisherIND]

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Thoughts? That looks nasty, and with the lesion on the right side too..

would take an illegal blow to open that up, dont you think? jimmo wins by dq.

[mirinquads]

Lulz, maybe why his line is dropping so much.

But really, he might have taken a serious blow or be concussed from earlier, just something to keep in mind.

[PunisherIND]

Lulz, maybe why his line is dropping so much.

But really, he might have taken a serious blow or be concussed from earlier, just something to keep in mind.

yea, that was a nice catch. i didnt notice it while watching.

[oldscho0led]

Tired of Machida's shit. Munoz should knock him out, Shogun style.

[reigle9]

Yeah all he needs is the striking, explosiveness, experience, killer instinct and natural ability.

[Noleafclover]

Might roll Guillard. Always bet on the black guy and all that.

[MD]

Always bet on the black guy and all that.

F-ck off, there isn't enough money in Vegas for two people following my model.

[Noleafclover]

Thought our model was fade Brazillians in Brazil and fail, guess this kinda qualifies.

[MD]

Thought our model was fade Brazillians in Brazil and fail, guess this kinda qualifies.

The world's worst f-cking model. I may as well quit Brazil cards, I've been haemorrhaging money on them all year.

[Noleafclover]

Tellin you. Other news, I want a line for "No one in first 9 fights wins KOotN"

[Noleafclover]

Pretty near to done. Just got finished watching Pearson-Swanson, man you never go full retard against a KO artist like that. Hoping he's learned his lesson. 1u=3.33% all units to win x u

Pearson-Guillard > 1.5 1u
Whiteford +400 1u
Whiteford +415 1u
Craig/Barnatt sees cards +100 2u
Machida ITD -115 (sadface) 3u

Lean Parke, if the line improves I'll take it for half a unit. Capping Iaquinta to finish it, and of the nights.
Edit: I'll cave Parke, someone whose opinion I respect likes him as well. .5u @ -150.