How did Jon Jones win the fight ?

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  • Imsmarterthanu
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    #1
    How did Jon Jones win the fight ?
    How ?
  • face
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    • 01-31-11
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    #2
    lot of damage 4th 5th rounds maybe, gustufsson got pretty fukked up
    gustafsson landed so many more hits to the head though in the other rounds
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    • Kermit
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      #3
      I had it 3 rounds to 2 Jones.
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      • Imsmarterthanu
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        #4
        wait but how does one judge have it 49 - 46 ?

        i only gave one round to jones that was the 5th round

        he threw a lot of kicks but most of them were blocked and none of them really did anything to shift the fight

        just threw them for flash they impact the arm and judges see it as a strike
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        • Imsmarterthanu
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          #5
          Originally posted by Kermit
          I had it 3 rounds to 2 Jones.
          yea which rounds were they ?
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          • MD
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            #6
            I had Jones winning R2 and R5. I thought Gus won R4 because he dominated it for four minutes, Jones had one solid minute, but not enough to steal the round for me. Gus 48-47.
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            • Kermit
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              #7
              Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
              yea which rounds were they ?
              Rounds 2, 4, and 5

              That 49-46 was bullshit.
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              • Imsmarterthanu
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                #8
                well i guess they can get away with anything

                same as the "justice system" you got these judges that can't judge shit
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                • Beelzebubzy
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                  #9
                  Dana gave cash to judges so Tito doesn't have a record
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                  • Kermit
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                    wait but how does one judge have it 49 - 46 ?

                    i only gave one round to jones that was the 5th round

                    he threw a lot of kicks but most of them were blocked and none of them really did anything to shift the fight

                    just threw them for flash they impact the arm and judges see it as a strike
                    When you watch those kicks land in slo-mo, you can really see the impact even if they are blocked. He landed A LOT that went unblocked. I can't believe Gus took that much punishment.
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                    • Wanna Bet On It?
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                      #11
                      R1: Gus
                      R2: Jones (close)
                      R3: Gus
                      R4: Jones (almost finished Gus; although Gus was winning for 4 minutes, he was starched in the final min)
                      R5: Jones

                      Round 2 was the most contentious. It's hard for a judge to score Gus up 2 rounds to none when he "surprisingly" took the first round and then fought a very close second round... It's a bullshit bias but judges tend to lean towards the champ when it's a coin flip; not always, but often...
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                      • Imsmarterthanu
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                        #12
                        NO FUCKNG WAY

                        that's all i got to say

                        it's a fuckin blur now in memory but when the fight was happening Jon Jones was getting tool almost all 5 rounds got all of his takedowns stuffed got taken down himself and got tooled standing on the feet

                        yea watever say what you want i don't see how jones won that shit he lost penetrate the judges they can't judge shit fight after fight they don't know anything
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                        • MD
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                          R1: Gus
                          R2: Jones (close)
                          R3: Gus
                          R4: Jones (almost finished Gus; although Gus was winning for 4 minutes, he was starched in the final min)
                          R5: Jones

                          Round 2 was the most contentious. It's hard for a judge to score Gus up 2 rounds to none when he "surprisingly" took the first round and then fought a very close second round... It's a bullshit bias but judges tend to lean towards the champ when it's a coin flip; not always, but often...
                          I gave Gus R4, barely. He was dominating for the vast majority of it.
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                          • NunyaBidness
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MD
                            I had Jones winning R2 and R5. I thought Gus won R4 because he dominated it for four minutes, Jones had one solid minute, but not enough to steal the round for me. Gus 48-47.
                            That's a very strange way to score a fight. The damage that Jones did in the last minute of that round were worth way more than the previous 4.
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                            • Imsmarterthanu
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                              #15
                              Whatever Bitch Boy got EXPOSED

                              Not Quite Human

                              MY ASS
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                              • Wanna Bet On It?
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                NO FUCKNG WAY

                                that's all i got to say

                                it's a fuckin blur now in memory but when the fight was happening Jon Jones was getting tool almost all 5 rounds got all of his takedowns stuffed got taken down himself and got tooled standing on the feet

                                yea watever say what you want i don't see how jones won that shit he lost penetrate the judges they can't judge shit fight after fight they don't know anything
                                I know you're pissed that Gus didn't win and I can't blame you. He did WAY better than the squares that were betting Jon Jones at -1000.

                                I feel your pain. I stood to win $3.5K on Gus. Objectively though, Jones narrowly won that decision.
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                                • terpkeg
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                                  R1: Gus
                                  R2: Jones (close)
                                  R3: Gus
                                  R4: Jones (almost finished Gus; although Gus was winning for 4 minutes, he was starched in the final min)
                                  R5: Jones

                                  Round 2 was the most contentious. It's hard for a judge to score Gus up 2 rounds to none when he "surprisingly" took the first round and then fought a very close second round... It's a bullshit bias but judges tend to lean towards the champ when it's a coin flip; not always, but often...
                                  Completely agree with this and I took Gus live in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
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                                  • terpkeg
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                                    #18
                                    Its a shame because Jones was gassed hard last half of 5th and fight was there for taking. Gus just too gassed himself.
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                                    • terpkeg
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                                      #19
                                      Based on scores I think its safe to say Gus wins that fight if that spinning elbow doesn't land as well.
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                                      • Catchn_Picks
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                        How ?

                                        You think the Gatorade ad he had on his thighs or the Nike Swoosh on his but helped?
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                                        • Imsmarterthanu
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                                          #21
                                          yea i think it definitely helped because if he lost on the cards just like he should have it would have cost the UFC MILLIONS of dollars in marketing
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                                          • MD
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                                            I know you're pissed that Gus didn't win and I can't blame you. He did WAY better than the squares that were betting Jon Jones at -1000.

                                            I feel your pain. I stood to win $3.5K on Gus. Objectively though, Jones narrowly won that decision.
                                            Objective opinions.
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                                            • Wanna Bet On It?
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by terpkeg
                                              Its a shame because Jones was gassed hard last half of 5th and fight was there for taking. Gus just too gassed himself.
                                              Originally posted by terpkeg
                                              Based on scores I think its safe to say Gus wins that fight if that spinning elbow doesn't land as well.
                                              I think Gus was concussed after that spinning elbow landed on the frontal bone. He was on auto-pilot in the fifth and fought on pure heart.

                                              Agreed. If Gus doesn't get hit by that elbow, suffice it to say that he takes R4 and wins on the scorecards (1/3/4).
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                                              • Wanna Bet On It?
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                Objective opinions.
                                                There are objective scoring criteria. It's the reason why over 90% of the media scoring the fight had it for Jones.
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                                                • MD
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                                                  There are objective scoring criteria. It's the reason why over 90% of the media scoring the fight had it for Jones.
                                                  Objective scoring criteria which are used to form an opinion, which is subjective. Hence the wild differences in opinion.
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MD
                                                    Objective scoring criteria which are used to form an opinion, which is subjective. Hence the wild differences in opinion.


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                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                      #27
                                                      So they were gonna give a 8 to 1 dog who had a ton of money on him the decision? U fukers need to wake up. It hasn't happen in my lifetime and i doubt it ever will. And by the way Big JOhn was absolutely awful last night. How hard do fans have to bo before he was gonna stand a fighters up. He single handedly ruin the Ricci Jury fight. I never saw a guy for four minutes do absolutely nothing and get away with it. Absolute disgrace of a reffed match. Didn't see the Carmont fight yet but i heard big John pretty much bored everyone to tears in that one. The Ricci fight was absolutely amazing. You lay on a guy for 4 minutes and 30 seconds how about trying for a sub or maybe throw a punch. I s Big John betting on these fights now? He used to be the best ref out there.
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                                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                        How hard do fans have to bo before he was gonna stand a fighters up. He single handedly ruin the Ricci Jury fight.
                                                        Wait? You think proper refereeing involves reacting to the crowd?
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                                                        • Kermit
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          So they were gonna give a 8 to 1 dog who had a ton of money on him the decision? U fukers need to wake up. It hasn't happen in my lifetime and i doubt it ever will. And by the way Big JOhn was absolutely awful last night. How hard do fans have to bo before he was gonna stand a fighters up. He single handedly ruin the Ricci Jury fight. I never saw a guy for four minutes do absolutely nothing and get away with it. Absolute disgrace of a reffed match. Didn't see the Carmont fight yet but i heard big John pretty much bored everyone to tears in that one. The Ricci fight was absolutely amazing. You lay on a guy for 4 minutes and 30 seconds how about trying for a sub or maybe throw a punch. I s Big John betting on these fights now? He used to be the best ref out there.
                                                          The 8-1 dog needs to actually win the fight.
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                                                          • Thor4140
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                            Wait? You think proper refereeing involves reacting to the crowd?
                                                            Yes when 18 thousand people are bored to tears with another 750 thousand sick to their stomachs on PPV along with the owner of the company. Yes. Did u enjoy that?
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                                                            • Thor4140
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Kermit
                                                              The 8-1 dog needs to actually win the fight.
                                                              not debating whether he won or lost but to think an eight to one dog is gonna get a five round decision when the bulk of the money is on him. aThe books would have gotten absolutely slaughtered if they gave that to Gus. They aint givin out eight to one for anything but a guy who don't have shit bet on him. That line was rediculous.
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                                                              • rocky16
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                                                                #32
                                                                48-47 Gus. Suck me hard phagets.
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                                                                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rocky16
                                                                  48-47 Gus. Suck me hard phagets.
                                                                  Would you care for some cheese to go with your whine? The smart play was a BIG play parlay with Jones/Mayweather/Nurmagomedov! Gambling ain't for beta chimps. It take's ALPHA b*lls to go BIG on a triple parlay. It takes brain's to know when & how to do it. Keep your nose clean kid & maybe I'll give ya a tip or two. Until then...... Pull your pants up..... Your butt stinks.
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                                                                  • Venom OG
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    i had gustavsson in the first 3 rounds and jones in rounds 4 and 5. fight was very close and could have gone either way though. i had the swede by a hair but i figured they would give a very close fight to the champ. didn't bet the fight so either way it goes i was just glad to see a very entertaining fight.
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                                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Venom OG
                                                                      i had gustavsson in the first 3 rounds and jones in rounds 4 and 5. fight was very close and could have gone either way though. i had the swede by a hair but i figured they would give a very close fight to the champ. didn't bet the fight so either way it goes i was just glad to see a very entertaining fight.
                                                                      Why that's a mighty fine avatar ya got there son. Just lookin' at it gave me a chubby.
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