World Series of Fighting 4: Spong vs Deanda (August 10th)

[Demonata]

Wow he has one arm and can't lose...

[mirinquads]

That's not how a line works.

This Nick Newell Character is a bitch to cap, his creepy hand kinda changes the whole dynamic of a fight, seems to give him a slight speed edge when blocking and throwing in close, and in certain submissions (He hit a nice heelhook using Mr. stumpy to get the position quicker.) Though, when facing a good grappler its likely to be a disadvantage due to no solid grip in some positions and handfighting. Also I gotta think that it's going to be a disadvantage if he faces an opponent who actually knows how to keep distance, use lateral movement and counter properly. He just swings wildly when he gets in close. Hes undefeated but his opposition has been garbage.
He is a fluid levelchanger and uses his wrestling quite a bit to get dominant position and is aggressive. Also have good transitions into submissions. He also has fluid and quick kicks, though they dont seem to have a lot behind them. Makes him look busy for the judges though. He looks good in his victories, but I have yet to find a fight where he couldn't just completely truck his opponent because of the skill disparity. Haven't really seen him overcome opposition yet.
Not impressed with Keons takedown defence or speed, though I haven't been able to find that much prober tape on him. Not sure this is the fight to fade him, but the day will come.

[mirinquads]

also wtf 1 arm

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also wtf 1 arm

[Demonata]

also wtf 1 arm

For real to me that should be a huge disadvantage... I am so tempted to fade him. HE can't just keep winnign with one arm and I think this is his hardest opponent hes had to face.

[MD]

What I mean is that in order for there to be even marginal value on either side, you either have to 'cap Tyson at -209 or lower, or -291 or higher. If I 'capped Tyson at -230, the line would still be set well.

As for Newell, I really don't want to bet on him in any fight, simply because the dynamic of his arm is something that I really don't know how to account for. I doubt anyone does, really. It's very bizarre.

[Das Jax]

What I mean is that in order for there to be even marginal value on either side, you either have to 'cap Tyson at -209 or lower, or -291 or higher. If I 'capped Tyson at -230, the line would still be set well.

As for Newell, I really don't want to bet on him in any fight, simply because the dynamic of his arm is something that I really don't know how to account for. I doubt anyone does, really. It's very bizarre.

It's further complicated by the fact that the promotion has an obvious interest in his winning for promotional reasons. Their putting a one-armed (rather, one-handed) fighter on TV probably accounts for half their viewing audience.

I don't know anything about this Keon guy, but I looked into his record a bit and it turns out his seemingly impressive 9-1 record is equally as worthless as Newell's deceivingly impressive 9-0 record. Ultimately, I agree with miringquads... there will definitely come a time to fade him, but at first glance I don't think this is the time.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Put a tiny bit on Hempleman's opener after watching a bit of footage last night.

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It's further complicated by the fact that the promotion has an obvious interest in his winning for promotional reasons. Their putting a one-armed (rather, one-handed) fighter on TV probably accounts for half their viewing audience.

I don't know anything about this Keon guy, but I looked into his record a bit and it turns out his seemingly impressive 9-1 record is equally as worthless as Newell's deceivingly impressive 9-0 record. Ultimately, I agree with miringquads... there will definitely come a time to fade him, but at first glance I don't think this is the time.

keon is the guy that quit on tuf started crying and asked dana if he could leave. I was just thinking about that dude and would love to fade his no heart ass then Bam he pops up here.

[sideloaded]

Put a tiny bit on Hempleman's opener after watching a bit of footage last night.

so you moved the line.

[Educ8d Degener8]

so you moved the line.

LOL, I don't think my pocket change moved that line. Some rich folk like Nuna must've came in and hit that line as well.

I only watched a bit of footage but quick impression was value on hempleman.

[mmaed]

Hempleman looked pretty good against McVeigh. He comes from a gymnastics background. Supposedly as a kid he was one of the best in the world. McVeigh tried to take him down in round 1(I think it was r1) and he hopped around like he was on a pogo stick while punching McVeigh in the head until he let go. It was actually pretty impressive. I have to wonder what his takedowns look like. I wouldn't surprised if he could shoot a really nice power double and takedown Moraes. Tough fight to cap and I really don't want to try because Moraes is a very good kickboxer and should have the advantage standing but for all I know Hempleman will come to wrestle and do a decent job. I have no idea what Moraes looks like off his back and I no idea what Hemplemans submission defense looks like. Probably going to just avoid this one. Oh and Tyrone Sponges line sucks as much as I imagined it would. I expect Tyson Griffin to win. The one armed guy will probably wrestle his way to a decision or submission win. Nick Newll/Tyson Griffin/Moraes/Sponge. If I hadn't lost so much recently I would probably bet it just for the hell of it. Watch it win.

[sideloaded]

Hempleman looked pretty good against McVeigh. He comes from a gymnastics background. Supposedly as a kid he was one of the best in the world. McVeigh tried to take him down in round 1(I think it was r1) and he hopped around like he was on a pogo stick while punching McVeigh in the head until he let go. It was actually pretty impressive. I have to wonder what his takedowns look like. I wouldn't surprised if he could shoot a really nice power double and takedown Moraes. Tough fight to cap and I really don't want to try because Moraes is a very good kickboxer and should have the advantage standing but for all I know Hempleman will come to wrestle and do a decent job. I have no idea what Moraes looks like off his back and I no idea what Hemplemans submission defense looks like. Probably going to just avoid this one. Oh and Tyrone Sponges line sucks as much as I imagined it would. I expect Tyson Griffin to win. The one armed guy will probably wrestle his way to a decision or submission win. Nick Newll/Tyson Griffin/Moraes/Sponge. If I hadn't lost so much recently I would probably bet it just for the hell of it. Watch it win.

you picking tyson too? guess im alone of this one. oh and admiring quadriceps.

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admiring quadriceps this is for you

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Put a tiny bit on Hempleman's opener after watching a bit of footage last night.

His last fight over in Europe vs McVeigh was impressive for where he is at in his career. He is definitely a live dog.

[mmaed]

His last fight over in Europe vs McVeigh was impressive for where he is at in his career. He is definitely a live dog.

Yeah I agree. I don't consider him a more skilled fighter than Moraes. Moraes is a kickboxing champ and a brown belt in bjj. That doesn't mean Hempleman can't win though. His athleticism is top notch.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Yeah I agree. I don't consider him a more skilled fighter than Moraes. Moraes is a kickboxing champ and a brown belt in bjj. That doesn't mean Hempleman can't win though. His athleticism is top notch.

Exactly. He is an underdog for a reason. However, as I said before he is definitely a live dog & I understand why the degenerate dude put a little on him.

[mirinquads]

admiring quadriceps this is for you

[kripsak]

I couldn't find any quad's, but I think this is pretty close:

[The iron sheik]

Taking the explosive athletic guy against old stumpy, just for shits and giggles

[PunisherIND]

[Educ8d Degener8]

How much does Gabe have on Papazian?

[Beelzebubzy]

How much does Gabe have on Papazian?

102% of his bankroll if it wins

a flier if he loses

[gabe]

102% of his bankroll if it wins

a flier if he loses

new forum comedian with v gone, same awful humor

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new forum comedian with v gone, same awful humor

u happy V got his brains blown out?

[mmaed]

So the final word with v is he was banned for selling points?

[Sato]

Love how V is the nicest guy around...but does some underground shit to stab SBR in the back. Love it...he needs to be back!

[NunyaBidness]

Love how V is the nicest guy around...but does some underground shit to stab SBR in the back. Love it...he needs to be back!

Stab SBR in the back? You mean the site that encouraged me (and others) to deposit thousands at BetIslands, and then when they went belly up, they refuse to even acknowledge it existed?

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Stab SBR in the back? You mean the site that encouraged me (and others) to deposit thousands at BetIslands, and then when they went belly up, they refuse to even acknowledge it existed?

Ouch! You got Cyprused before the incident in Cyprus.

[Sato]

Stab SBR in the back? You mean the site that encouraged me (and others) to deposit thousands at BetIslands, and then when they went belly up, they refuse to even acknowledge it existed?

It only works one way pal

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doing a double take, love that under 2.5 at +180 on tyson

Oakley Sunglasses

yeah who ever thought these bots were smart guess again. They find other posts and just repeat them to look like they are talking in the same conversation.

[sideloaded]

i have another angle on this JZ fight. dont know if I should post the info. Sbr is going down hill. Quality posters like V replaced by spambots

[Sato]

Tell me!

[Ron_Paul_2012]

yeah who ever thought these bots were smart guess again. They find other posts and just repeat them to look like they are talking in the same conversation.

Well whats a little disconcerting is the fact that news is already starting to be generated in a similar fashion. And because the majority of all trades in the various stock markets around the world are now done by high frequency algorithmic super computers and that those super computers are already doing trades based on news stories in order to discover market trends before any human can. Soon all of the worlds various stock markets will be one massive feedback loop! Just when I thought the world economy couldn't get anymore ridiculous then the Ponzi/pyramid scheme that it currently is.......

[Dwil125]

i have another angle on this JZ fight. dont know if I should post the info. Sbr is going down hill. Quality posters like V replaced by spambots

Is v gone or something? I haven't seen him post in a little bit