Originally posted by Thor4140
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There are two people who get more shit than me in this subsection, and they both work for MMAOB. Oh, and BIGDAY. I think I handle it pretty well.
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yeah they teach all Europeans no head movement. Same class they teach them to smash and grab banks/stores and sell heroinOriginally posted by Thor4140Comment -
ha It's because of the "we like to brawl" mentality of Brits, and tendency to plant feet and look for power hooks rather than sitting behind the jab. You dont really see guys like Pickett and Hardy use the jab. Then you get guys like Ross Pearson who can use the jab but at same time like to get aggressive and wild and forget about defense. Bisping also had the brawlers mentality when he started out and when he was on TUF and just coming off TUF...he was ultra aggressive and didnt give a shit. Then he evolved and discovered footwork and movement and was less wild and improved defensively. Another factor is that many English fighters know they are durable and have a decent chin so think they can get by with just that. After all it worked at the amateur level and for most of my pro career so why change? Then a Dan Hardy fights a Carlos Condit and....Originally posted by Thor4140
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Yeah Pearson is the same way. I always thought if he could learn how to defend punches like he does with leg kicks he could beat Aldo. I never saw a fighter in my life be able to check leg kicks like Pearson. U would think he might want to learn how to chek a few punches. Still can't believe he lost to Cole Miller of all people.Comment -
He was fighting on one leg against Cole tho, injured his knee and had operation straight away afterwards. Regardless, he does have a tendency to walk in to punches! Anybody we decent counter striking always has a chance against himComment -
Is the Condit-Hardy thing really fair though, if Hardy were 0.1 seconds faster to the punch perhaps I'd be Condit who would have been gurney'd out
I see your point though, but both were reckless. Besides, the british have a long history of technical striking.
the combo at 2 minutes...Comment -
"In my opinion, Mauricio played the wrong game. He should've moved more to avoid the takedowns. Fighting on half guard against a wrestler isn't a good strategy. He should have brought Chael to his guard when he got taken down, tried to sweep him or land some punches. But Sonnen got his neck, unfortunately. My brother needs someone, he needs a head coach who can listen to. I always told him the truth no matter what, but I had issues with trainers from his camp. Maybe in the future I'll work with him again, who knows. I'll talk to him when he returns to Curitiba. He has a lot of shady persons around him, people trying to take advantage of him. People from his camp said I wasn't good for Mauricio because I made him nervous when I was on his corner, and he listened to that, so I decided to leave. If something is wrong I would point it out, I wouldn't just lie to please him."Comment -
That loss was big for Shogun. I remember Shogun that ko'd Arona and before that killed world class competition to win it all.
Maybe stylistically Sonnen is the worst one for him. IT seemed Rua wasnt ready for that kind of pressure.Comment -
Hahah, did you all see this?
Ludwig on some goooood shiiit.
Guy earned it though, undefeated since becoming a coach. Hope he sniffed it off Ariannys breasteses.Comment -
lmaoooooooo holy fuuck that dude is coked up as hell my niq! Speaking like Matt Mitrione, couldnt understand a word he was saying!Originally posted by mirinquads
Can just imagine him and all the manlets celebrating doing lines of coke off Arianny's flat ass whilst Master Tong sits on the computer in the corner losing all of Faberz bonus moneyz on poker!Comment -
Shogun gave up the neck to stand up.. Chael Sonnen got the arms in choke and sub'd his ass. Shogun didn't give CS enough credit for his sub skills coming in..
The new camp paid off for Sonnen.. While he is an idiot with his mouth, he is smart when coming into fights and preparing for them...
Alister Overeem should go back on PED's and work on his cardio.. He gassed and lost.. I promise you Overeem has seen those Steven Segal bitch up kicks a million times.. He was gassed and coming forward with no defense in mind.. Surviving the round was in mind and he got lit up...
In the heavy weight division Cardio is KING to go along with a good chin and heart..
I do think the Ref should have stopped that fight though when Travis Browne was curled up like a bitch and taking head blows from AO early on... He was out on his feet with those knees that connected...
Overeem is having a bad go in the UFC so far.. Fedor repeat with Overeem. UFC is not for those guys...Comment -
Hahhhaha, what a chimpout of epic proportaions that would be. You're not even supposed to give manlets coffee.Originally posted by Vaughany
I imagine something akin to the TUF season with Faber where they were all going nuts in the other teams room, with Ludwig licking some prostitutes feet in the corner (Yeah Arianny) and Master Thong trying to catch squirrels with a fishing pole.Comment -
Michael Johnson happened. The plan going into the fight was to try to take away his jab. If you try to take away his jab, you have to make him miss by a very narrow margin. Part of that is, you're going to get hit a little bit. We didn't do a very good job at that and that's where the whole plan started... I had great sparring partners and I had a great training camp. I was feeling strong. I was feeling fast. I was feeling super confident and I wasn't looking past him, because I knew how super tough he would be. Just looking at myself, I felt I was in great shape and ready to go and he right off the bat took me out of my game. I never really got started and usually, I like to come out and be really aggressive. He had a slight speed advantage on me when we started out at the beginning. If I couldn't catch him when I was at my best, and fresh, it got even worse when he was inflicting damage on me. He fought really smart. He beat me up a lot in the first and basically took the second and rested and kind of coasted a little bit. Then, he beat me up really good in the third. Give Michael credit: He fought a really, really smart fight... That was me at my worst, but I think you have to give credit to Michael, and I was so bad because he was at his best. I watched the fight three or four times [Sunday] and he just did a really, really good job."Comment -
"Take away his jab".. wut? like he was gonna slip and counter?
And he didn't even attempt a takedown because he's "hard to takedown"? Well no shit, but he's also a way better kick boxer than you.
Sounds like awful gameplanning from his camp. He trains at his own gym anyway, no?Comment -
Ye jus trains at his own gym with tht fat boxing coach who has a bit of a lisp and is always out of breath and says penetrate alot, then he has lundrell in his camp and spars a bit with joe proctorOriginally posted by mirinquadsComment -
UFC Fight Night 26 Fighter Salaries
Chael Sonnen: $100,000 (no win bonus)
def. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua: $175,000
-Travis Browne: $48,000 (includes $24,000 win bonus)
def. Alistair Overeem: $285,714.29
-Urijah Faber: $120,000 (includes $60,000 win bonus)
def. Iuri Alcantara: $16,000
-Matt Brown: $66,000 (includes $33,000 win bonus)
def. Mike Pyle: $45,000
-John Howard: $28,000 (includes $14,000 win bonus)
def. Uriah Hall: $10,000
-Michael Johnson: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
def. Joe Lauzon: $27,000
-Michael McDonald: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
def. Brad Pickett: $23,000
-Conor McGregor: $24,000 (includes $12,000 win bonus)
def. Max Holloway: $14,000
-Steven Siler: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Mike Brown: $30,000
-Diego Brandao: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Daniel Pineda: $15,000
-Manny Gamburyan: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Cole Miller: $26,000
-Ovince St. Preux: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
def. Cody Donovan: $8,000
-James Vick: $16,000 (include $8,000 win bonus)
def. Ramsey Nijem: $14,000
uriah hall only made $10,000 and he was -400?Comment -
Lauzon, McDonald and Pickett are making criminal money. Shogun and Sonnen get PPV cuts, so their salaries being so low are no surprise. I'm assuming Overeem doesn't get PPV cuts, but even still, he's being overpaid.Comment -
never seen a disclosed salary like overeem's "$285,714.29". strange. but then again, there was always something strange about how overeem was "released" from his strikeforce contract only to be signed by ufc shortly thereafter.Originally posted by MDComment -
Anyone have any idea what these guys are making for endorsements? Roughly?Comment -
yeah, Pickett is one of Dana's favourites so he gets plenty of back-hand bonuses, but still, he's had 6 fights now in UFC and 4 in WEC so 10 under Zuffa banner. You'd think he'd be on 35-45k to show by now, especially considering he's one of the most entertaining fighters on the roster. Kind of funny and disrespectful at same time that McDonald is only getting 3k more than Conor (to show money)!!Originally posted by MDComment -
I would guess since Overeem didn't come in as your average M-1 heavyweight that it was some flat money deal brokered in euros. I'd also guess that figure is pretty much 200k euros at the time Overeem joined UFC.Originally posted by PunisherINDComment -
For some probably as much as their to show money, a lot of them rely on sponsor money, guys like Dan Hardy who are popular and have plenty of sponsors can live off that sponsor money alone (one of the reasons why Hardy isnt worried about retiring now if he has to), companies like Xyience have paid him well.Originally posted by mmaed
War Machine (Koppenhaver) did a blog on it recently, saying loads of fighters are gettin screwed by sponsors now as fighters are accepting anything so sponsors just keep lowering their offers. He said it IRRC that he was turning down £1000 offers out of principle because it was disrespectful (I may be wrong, might be lower). So he is expecting 3-5k or somethingComment -
not much. let's just say jon jones is making ~$10,000 per year from nike.Originally posted by mmaed
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the sad thing is even if you make $25,000, you gotta pay people on your team.
i mean these guys risk getting their faces rearranged and who knows what multiple concussions do to your brain.
i know dana white's a good businessman but he needs to pay his fighters more money.Comment -
Plus have to give the gubment its cut.Comment
