Ronda is the ultimate hypemachine. Biggest in UFC history. Even bigger than Brock...even though the rooster_eater somehow became UFC HW champ...whatever...
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I dunno if I'd go that far. She's so far ahead of most of her competition that pretty much no one can beat her at this point. Sider hates Rousey, and he'd probably agree that there are 2-3 girls at 135 at most with a decent shot against her. She's not mind-blowing, and ranking her in the top 10 P4P is completely absurd, but she's better than her competition, pretty clearly.Originally posted by SatoComment -
it was hilarious listening to that podcast with Leslie Smith. The interviewer asked how was it when Ronda came to ceasar gracie's to train. Leslie laughed and said Ronda would only roll with her. She wouldn't spar at all. Reminds me of Lesnar's team told not to hit him in the face.Comment -
She has never been better than McMann since they both started mma. The reason Ronda ducked her in Shark Fights. McMann dominates the clinch and keeps the fight standing. She wins now, she would've won back in shark fights.Originally posted by MDComment -
How would you 'cap McMann against Rousey? If we assume standup is a push (hard to tell, I don't think I'd be shocked if either got the better of it), then it's all about the grappling, and they're both so high level that it's difficult to tell how it'd go. I think Rousey has the power and youth edge, though McMann is deceptively strong herself. I think I'd favour Rousey because I don't think that McMann has a very good shot at finishing her; her best bet to win is a five-round grinding. Rousey has more options because of her style.Originally posted by sideloaded
It's an interesting matchup, and if it happens I expect serious value on McMann.Comment -
I dont know if McMann can keep up with Rouseys pace.Originally posted by MDComment -
rousey gasses big time, it was her problem in judo and mcmann is a cardio freak.Comment -
McMann always walks around at 138-140 and is in shape year around. Rousey balloons up 20 lbs between camps. McMann has the huge cardio advantage.Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
McMann had a baby in 2009 and tried jiujtsu for 6 months and still smashed miesha tate in a grappling match. She is way better now. Fight really isnt even close in my eyes.Comment -
I find it funny that people say Cyborg would gas under Rousey's pace if Rousey can't get the armbar. The opposite is probably true. Cyborg's cardio is insane for her size and weightcut.Comment -
I was impressed with pace of Carmouche fight.
I do think Cyborg walks through her thoughComment -
Rondas standup is so bad that I'd say she cant hurt anybody with it. McManns isnt deluxe either BUT if both were to connect I see McManns being more effective.
Rondas gastank is the biggest question mark. We dont know anything about it. Actually I would say she tends to burn her gastank rather fast because her intensity in her short fight time is very high. I dont see much control of her cardio.
Besides the armbar I dont see anything special.
If Ronda meets someone who actually has effective striking...she will lose. Santos will absolutely crush her and I like Saras chances here.Comment -
That's literally the worst analysis of a Ronda Rousey fight I've ever heard. Jake Shields has fought a bunch of effective strikers and won. Why is that?Originally posted by SatoComment -
only way to beat rousey is to beat the clinch. Only two women right now could do it. Or 4 but the other women arent in mma. Every rousey fight comes down to the clinch.
McMann can beat that clinch, and Nakamoto and thrive in that clinch and land a knee or elbow. Icho can beat that clinch but she is not coming to mma. Seiko Yamamoto could probably beat it too. She is training right now and just won adcc asia trials. She is Kid Yamamoto's sister and world champion multiple times.
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cyborg too but she is 145Comment -
Seiko Yamamoto x10 sexier than rousey
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Listen pal, Ronda isnt penetrating Jake Shields or Mike Tyson. As soon as she gets hit on her mouth by someone who knows whats shes doing she will lose! Ronda is completely different from a grind type of fighter!Originally posted by MD
The amount of times she stuck her head out and presented her chin like an apple pie in some of these exchanges...someone will eventually capitalize on that.Comment -
She certainly can't execute the grinding wrestling style of Jake Shields or Mike Tyson, that's for sure.Originally posted by Sato
I think the majority of females aren't powerful enough to knock Rousey out, especially not while they're worried about the takedowns. Look at Kaufmann; one of the best strikers in WMMA, and she had nothing for Rousey. Nakamoto is the best striker in WMMA, and probably the biggest threat to Rousey, and even she would have a lot of trouble with Ronda's takedowns.Comment -
I agree Sato, but most 135 women couldnt bust a grape. But yeah Ronda is face first if she eats a Nakamoto knee or elbowOriginally posted by SatoComment -
I dont know how much it takes to break princesses will due to shock damage. Nobody has shown us anything!Originally posted by MDShe certainly can't execute the grinding wrestling style of Jake Shields or Mike Tyson, that's for sure.
I think the majority of females aren't powerful enough to knock Rousey out, especially not while they're worried about the takedowns. Look at Kaufmann; one of the best strikers in WMMA, and she had nothing for Rousey. Nakamoto is the best striker in WMMA, and probably the biggest threat to Rousey, and even she would have a lot of trouble with Ronda's takedowns.
But I like Sara in this matchup alot. ALOT!Comment -
Kennedy vs Belfort in BrazilComment -
well im not going to be that guy but.....TRTComment -
You hear that Thor? Vitor's finally going to face a superior striker.Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
In all seriousness, that fight is $$$.Comment -
Wonder how big of a dog he will beComment -
I take it your on Kennedy? You think he will outwrestle him and avoid submissions? I guess that is reasonable but Vitor packs a big punch. I would arb out with vitor by ko. Personally I think Vitor wins. Frankly I just don't see betting against Vitor. He is too dangerous because he can end any fight. I get it if your looking for value in dogs but it seems extremely risky too me.Comment -
Going to pound Vitor here HARD.Originally posted by BeelzebubzyComment -
McMann +175. Zingano? +250. Cyborg? -200. But I'm not the best capper here.Originally posted by MDComment -
I think Cyborg would give her trouble. Zingano would probably get armbarred. I have no idea what would happen with mcmann.Comment -
Can't be in either until there is a line. If Kennedy is +700 I think md picks him and likewise for vitorOriginally posted by mmaedComment -
Terrible fight without the betting implications. Vitor beats the SF champ by KO then gets the guy he beat in SF. Makes no sense. As he gets to fight in Brazil with his TRT. But yea, that was the first thing I thought about when this was announced. Kennedys superior striking.Originally posted by MDYou hear that Thor? Vitor's finally going to face a superior striker.
In all seriousness, that fight is $$$.Comment -
I think vitor wins by ko or decision.Comment -
i don't think i would waste my time with this fight. Kennedy has enuf in that beard of his to make this interesting. He gets a takedown i doubt Vitor can get up. Big gas tanks give Vitor trouble if he doesn't get them out of there early.Originally posted by MDYou hear that Thor? Vitor's finally going to face a superior striker.
In all seriousness, that fight is $$$.Comment -
How about a felony fights GP? The opening round can be Murray vs. Madadi, and the winner gets to fight Joe Son- Bard Hari winner (don't worry, Hari will be back in prison real soon)Originally posted by Thor4140
Rosenthal can ref the whole thingComment -
Gotta find paul kelly an opponentComment
