Mayweather vs. Guerrero

**Vaughany** · 05-01-13, 04:39 PM

Probably Floyd decision

**hougigo** · 05-01-13, 05:12 PM

I know Berto was trying to do the shoulder roll... but that was a poor man's shoulder roll.
But if you take guerrero, winning by decision is the way to go because I doubt Guerrero KO's him.... but i've been wrong before

**TheCalculator** · 05-01-13, 05:44 PM

Another variable in this fight is that Mayweather is the promoter behind his fights. A lot of cheesy quotes come to mind like "Don't bite the hand that feeds you."

**christianshreve** · 05-01-13, 09:35 PM

Good point. Not cheesy at all.

**christianshreve** · 05-01-13, 09:39 PM

Can Guerrero change patterns after 4 rounds, preventing Mayweather from using his counter-punching prowess? If Robert changes up after Floyd makes his first set of adjustments, it could be the late rounds before Floyd reads a pattern. "The Ghost" looks anything but a huge underdog. He's a live dog, and at +500, makes himself a good value to short-end bettors and sports investors.

**Boxscout** · 05-01-13, 09:54 PM

I'd probably stay away from that one. Fairly sure he was around +850 in places a while back. Hard to believe that they were THAT wrong on such a big fight. I do think he, at least theoretically, has the tools to trouble floyd. He throws a wide variety of punches, so he might be harder to adjust to. But I still think an awful lot of things would have to go his way.

**hougigo** · 05-01-13, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Boxscout

I'd probably stay away from that one. Fairly sure he was around +850 in places a while back. Hard to believe that they were THAT wrong on such a big fight. I do think he, at least theoretically, has the tools to trouble floyd. He throws a wide variety of punches, so he might be harder to adjust to. But I still think an awful lot of things would have to go his way.

He opened at +1000

Honestly, I don't see how he's some master adjuster (Guerrero) that some people are claiming.
He isn't going to try to box Mayweather, he's going to try and smother him and put the pressure on, just like everyone before him.
If he even wants a decent chance, he needs to utilize his jab.

I expect a 117-111 type card

**Sacrelicious** · 05-02-13, 06:25 AM

Floyd Dec -185

**bobby heenan** · 05-02-13, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by hougigo

He opened at +1000

Honestly, I don't see how he's some master adjuster (Guerrero) that some people are claiming.
He isn't going to try to box Mayweather, he's going to try and smother him and put the pressure on, just like everyone before him.
If he even wants a decent chance, he needs to utilize his jab.

I expect a 117-111 type card

agreed....thats what ortiz wanted to do too....and probably the blueprint most see as the only way to beat him...you certainly arent going to stand at a distance and outbox him....but floyd knows this....

**omalley21** · 05-02-13, 04:24 PM

Damn somebody sharp is betting guerrero to drive the number down that much... With boxing, that scares me.

**nic9212** · 05-02-13, 05:07 PM

Guerrero dad is getting Mayweather fired up bringing up his past (hitting his wife infront of his kids )

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-02-13, 05:14 PM

Floyd dec is now -170
hmmm

**thekidfanky** · 05-02-13, 05:59 PM

alot of money coming in on Guerrero.... just watched this guys fight with Berto again! and thats the exact same thing he needs to do with floyd be in his face 24/7 rough him up a bit! but i still see alot of flaws floyd will expose...especially that straight right hand! i think this lands for floyd all night...

yea exactly Bertos shoulder roll was horrible compare to mayweathers!!!

throwing small money on guerrero
and small money on floyd by decision

MD · 05-02-13, 06:04 PM

Really don't see the Guerrero hype. He's pretty good, I guess, but he's really not competition for Floyd.

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-02-13, 06:15 PM

On Floyd by decision. Too skillful and too defensive.

**Sacrelicious** · 05-02-13, 06:37 PM

On Floyd Dec as well,

but money keeps coming in on Guerrero, +650 now, I'm slightly concerned.

**hougigo** · 05-02-13, 06:46 PM

I'm waiting for SBR Louie to post. Every time he has, he blew me out.
Khan KO'd by Garcia, Marquez KO's Pac.... I was way off on those.
I wanna hear what he has to say

**Sacrelicious** · 05-02-13, 07:01 PM

I doubt you will be hearing from him.

**hougigo** · 05-02-13, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

I doubt you will be hearing from him.

Something happen while I was gone?

**kripsak** · 05-02-13, 08:12 PM

I was leaning towards Floyd by DEC, but just remembered that this is Mayweather's first fight outta jail & 1 year layoff, I'll throw a little something on Guerrero by DEC, I think he has a small chance. But definitely back it up with the OV.

**Sacrelicious** · 05-02-13, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

Something happen while I was gone?

The Betislands fiasco and then the deal with Legends.

The Mod's don't even really post here anymore, they've been replaced by an anonymous "SBR Mod" that just lays down the banhammer when necessary and that is about it.

**hougigo** · 05-02-13, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

The Betislands fiasco and then the deal with Legends.

The Mod's don't even really post here anymore, they've been replaced by an anonymous "SBR Mod" that just lays down the banhammer when necessary and that is about it.

:0
A lot must have happened while I was gone.
Are you guys allowed to talk about it because I got no idear

**pulledclear** · 05-02-13, 08:49 PM

Guerrero is gonna get PUMMELED!!

**Aussiefalconfan** · 05-02-13, 09:20 PM

fuk even this forum is 50/50

Maybe its just hype but I think Floyd wins this
but then agian guerr is like the rocky story heart of gold and his father just adds more to the angle

**Aussiefalconfan** · 05-02-13, 10:02 PM

Mayweather playing ghost-busters while training was classic

**simmy17** · 05-02-13, 10:53 PM

im Guerrero personally his style can really test floyd and i have a feeling that the hole wife beater thing might get into money mays head a little

**Dwil125** · 05-02-13, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by nic9212

Guerrero dad is getting Mayweather fired up bringing up his past (hitting his wife infront of his kids )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw1JkoNB6Ic

deposit 2 points below.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 05-03-13, 01:30 AM

Line move is nothing to pay too much attention to here. Low volume action now on side and big number always draws dog action. Unless Floyd lost 6 or 7 steps since last fight he should be able to impose his will as fight progresses. Can't blame guys for taking flier on Guerrero but he'll need a ko and that seems unlikely.

**hougigo** · 05-03-13, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Line move is nothing to pay too much attention to here. Low volume action now on side and big number always draws dog action. Unless Floyd lost 6 or 7 steps since last fight he should be able to impose his will as fight progresses. Can't blame guys for taking flier on Guerrero but he'll need a ko and that seems unlikely.

Probably because people saw he came out as a +1000 underdog when they feel like he's probably a +400 max.
Honestly... I don't really see him giving May much trouble.
I don't see this adapting ability. When he fought Aydin, he kept getting hit by telegraphed right hands from Aydin.... did nothing to stop him.... and he's a pretty damn basic fighter with power.

**thekidfanky** · 05-03-13, 10:30 AM

I agree, watched a couple of his fights last night and nothing really showed me he could beat Mayweather... I think even if he comes out stalking and roughs up Floyd a bit he will get hit with a lot of punches in the process... And Floyd will be way ahead of the score cards... Been changing my picks back and forth but I've decided to stick with
The Over .... And Mayweather by decision!

dont see Guerrero beating Floyd at all... But then again I said he couldn't beat Berto... And I did say Marquez wouldn't be Manny
hahaha

**thekidfanky** · 05-03-13, 10:31 AM

Beat* manny

**bobby heenan** · 05-03-13, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by hougigo

Probably because people saw he came out as a +1000 underdog when they feel like he's probably a +400 max.
Honestly... I don't really see him giving May much trouble.
I don't see this adapting ability. When he fought Aydin, he kept getting hit by telegraphed right hands from Aydin.... did nothing to stop him.... and he's a pretty damn basic fighter with power.

remember the lead rights floyd was popping ortiz with???

of course the wife beater shit was to get into floyds head...but you cant really...hes in control...hes always a step ahead of you...even as he declines physically he still has all the tools and nuances mastered....no one trains harder and he takes no one for granted...he treats everyone as if they are trying to take his money away

i think floyd is going to do everything he can to keep this fight at a comfortable distance....i dont think he wants a repeat of ortiz trying to pin him on the ropes and roughing him up....lol@ruben guerrero...wasnt dude like 0-7 as a pro?

**omalley21** · 05-03-13, 09:46 PM

Wow he literally was 0-7. KO'd 6 times. I hope his sons chin holds up better. Not loving my over bet right now..

**hougigo** · 05-03-13, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by omalley21

Wow he literally was 0-7. KO'd 6 times. I hope his sons chin holds up better. Not loving my over bet right now..

Not him. Ruben never turned pro, he went to jail..... wrong guy