Frankie edgar

**JamesKim** · 01-12-13, 02:02 AM

Honestly, I'd hit that at +300

**JKD** · 01-12-13, 05:40 AM

Will hit harder than a Russow hammerfist.

I think it's a very evenly matched fight, and probably going to be a close decision that will drop either way. I can already foresee arguments over how Aldo was 'robbed' because he landed a lot of leg kicks.

**Thor4140** · 01-12-13, 08:56 AM

i find it amazing that he is this big of a dog. The guy never gets credit. Heck he was the 155 champ beating guys twice his size. He out wrestled world class wrestlers and out boxed everyone unless he gets caught which is always the big concern. He neutralized one of the best kick guys in the world in Bendo catching a lot of his kicks. Aldo reminds me of JDS in a way where people just don't see holes in his games. I can't wait for this fight. I think the only way Aldo wins is catching Frankie with a knee like he did with Mendes. Frankie isn't gonna go in there and try to take him down at all cost. His hands are good enuf to swing with Aldo. If this goes past three rounds Aldo sure as hell better be prepared to swim in deep waters. Frankie will have total home field advantage here. Fans will be going nuts for him. , Frankie isn't one of those guys where you know he is going to try to take you down. He takes you down when he wants to take you down. I would take Frankie straight up in this fight. My concerns are Aldo's knees, Aldo catching him early, and how the storm Sandy has affected Frankie's life. Frankie also has that back issue which pops up from time to time, which of course we will never know about till after the fight. I think Aldo is gonna get worked here. Frankie did say "homeboy got something coming to him"
lol. Aldo wins this one then he has my praise cause i want to see him beat someone of this caliber. Mendes, i feel is but made a terrible mistake. Florian is just not athletic enuf for Aldo but still took it five. I wonder how much that foot injury is gonna affect Aldo's kicks.

**Thor4140** · 01-12-13, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Waiting for the to hit +300, and then I'ma gonna annihilate it.

My initial thought was to bet 2 bouncy castles.

I think I might bet 3 now.

Upset of the year.

DISCUSS.

i'll see ur two bouncy castles and raise you three fatheads.

**Sacrelicious** · 01-12-13, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

i find it amazing that he is this big of a dog. The guy never gets credit. Heck he was the 155 champ beating guys twice his size. He out wrestled world class wrestlers and out boxed everyone unless he gets caught which is always the big concern. He neutralized one of the best kick guys in the world in Bendo catching a lot of his kicks. Aldo reminds me of JDS in a way where people just don't see holes in his games. I can't wait for this fight. I think the only way Aldo wins is catching Frankie with a knee like he did with Mendes. Frankie isn't gonna go in there and try to take him down at all cost. His hands are good enuf to swing with Aldo. If this goes past three rounds Aldo sure as hell better be prepared to swim in deep waters. Frankie will have total home field advantage here. Fans will be going nuts for him. , Frankie isn't one of those guys where you know he is going to try to take you down. He takes you down when he wants to take you down. I would take Frankie straight up in this fight. My concerns are Aldo's knees, Aldo catching him early, and how the storm Sandy has affected Frankie's life. Frankie also has that back issue which pops up from time to time, which of course we will never know about till after the fight. I think Aldo is gonna get worked here. Frankie did say "homeboy got something coming to him"
lol. Aldo wins this one then he has my praise cause i want to see him beat someone of this caliber. Mendes, i feel is but made a terrible mistake. Florian is just not athletic enuf for Aldo but still took it five. I wonder how much that foot injury is gonna affect Aldo's kicks.

One of the biggest differences between Mendes and Edgar is the fact that a knee will simply not Edgar out. The guys got the heart and willpower of a penetrating lion.

I do think he is the underdog, I really do, but as the number continues to get higher its worth a shot.

MD · 01-12-13, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

One of the biggest differences between Mendes and Edgar is the fact that a knee will simply not Edgar out. The guys got the heart and willpower of a penetrating lion.

I do think he is the underdog, I really do, but as the number continues to get higher its worth a shot.

I think you need to understand the difference between "chin" and "recovery", and then understand the difference between a good MMA boxer with two finishes in his entire career and one of the best all-round strikers ever to compete in the sport who has brutal knockout power.

Sometimes, it doesn't matter how good someone's chin is. If they get caught in a certain way, they get finished. Edgar's chin is not spectacular, so Aldo finishing him is a very realistic possibility.

**Kaladarus** · 01-12-13, 11:27 AM

You might be waiting a while if you expect this line to hit +300.

**Fenster** · 01-12-13, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Waiting for the to hit +300, and then I'ma gonna annihilate it.

My initial thought was to bet 2 bouncy castles.

I think I might bet 3 now.

Upset of the year.

DISCUSS.

You joined SBR long after the Bouncy Castle Debacle of O-Twelve, so either you're Adam Bowden/one of the many other kids that ran away or are trying way too desperately to fit in. I hope it's the former.

That said, I see value in Edgar, as well.

That said, my observation of your plays in your short time here has taught me that you've wagered on losers far more than you have on winners, so this makes me not feel as great about the Edgar play.

Not that I feel great about it... Honestly, I think the line is the way it is because the books want people betting Edgar. It seems like a very close fight and could even be argued that Frankie should be the small favorite. THAT said, I think squares will be on Edgar and Aldo will ultimately edge a close decision, even if everybody thinks Frankie deserved the win. For Frankie Edgar to win, I think he has to be dominant for at least three rounds. He can't edge them, he has to win them convincingly. That or get the finish.

I don't think I'll be betting this fight. So far I just have a large wager on Ricardo Lamas and that my remain my only play for that event.

**Sacrelicious** · 01-12-13, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Fenster

You joined SBR long after the Bouncy Castle Debacle of O-Twelve, so either you're Adam Bowden/one of the many other kids that ran away or are trying way too desperately to fit in. I hope it's the former.

That said, I see value in Edgar, as well.

That said, my observation of your plays in your short time here has taught me that you've wagered on losers far more than you have on winners, so this makes me not feel as great about the Edgar play.

Not that I feel great about it... Honestly, I think the line is the way it is because the books want people betting Edgar. It seems like a very close fight and could even be argued that Frankie should be the small favorite. THAT said, I think squares will be on Edgar and Aldo will ultimately edge a close decision, even if everybody thinks Frankie deserved the win. For Frankie Edgar to win, I think he has to be dominant for at least three rounds. He can't edge them, he has to win them convincingly. That or get the finish.

I don't think I'll be betting this fight. So far I just have a large wager on Ricardo Lamas and that my remain my only play for that event.

My record here has been slightly better then breaking even, not particularly proud of it, but its been a month, and only that.

My approach to betting is my approach to poker,

You chip away at the small pots relentlessly, and thn when you bet a dog, you are freerolling.

3 to 1 on edgar? I'll take that.

**GunShard** · 01-12-13, 06:21 PM

I consider Jose Aldo an elite fighter like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.

For me, it's either bet on Aldo or no bet.

The upset of the year is Dos Santos losing to Velasquez.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-12-13, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

I consider Jose Aldo an elite fighter like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.

For me, it's either bet on Aldo or no bet.

The upset of the year is Dos Santos losing to Velasquez.

JDS fought Cain in 2012 iirc.

**JKD** · 01-12-13, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

I consider Jose Aldo an elite fighter like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.

For me, it's either bet on Aldo or no bet.

The upset of the year is Dos Santos losing to Velasquez.

A lot of people do, but for me he's a long way of proving it. Who's he beaten to be talked about in those kind of terms? Chad Mendes and Ken Flo? The quality of opponents he's fought, compared to who Frankie has fought are incomparable.

Obviously it's not a fight between who has the best resume so it's redundant but as always Frankie ain't getting the respect he's earned. If the judges were paying attention in his last fight he'd be the champ of the most stacked division in mma still.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-13, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

I consider Jose Aldo an elite fighter like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.

For me, it's either bet on Aldo or no bet.

The upset of the year is Dos Santos losing to Velasquez.

yeah Dos Santos' highlight reel was much better than Cain...should of never lost!

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-12-13, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

yeah Dos Santos' highlight reel was much better than Cain...should of never lost!

Boetsch over Okami, JLau over Black Blondie, and C-4 over Barboza were all bigger upsets than Cain over JDS... in 2012... imho... off the top of my head.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-13, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Boetsch over Okami, JLau over Black Blondie, and C-4 over Barboza were all bigger upsets than Cain over JDS... in 2012... imho... off the top of my head.

yeep agreed Cain wasnt a big upset at all. Wiman Sass as well, not cos Wiman won but the way he won.

BUt c'mon JDS' highlight reel is epic, back me up Gunshard!!!

MD · 01-12-13, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

The upset of the year is Dos Santos losing to Velasquez.

Apparently you've never read a thread I've posted in, cousin.

Also, on an unrelated note, aren't you that guy who just posts unbelievably obvious things, all the time? "Cain can win if he gets the takedown", "Anderson Silva is a good striker", things of that variety.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-13, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by MD

Apparently you've never read a thread I've posted in, cousin.

Also, on an unrelated note, aren't you that guy who just posts unbelievably obvious things, all the time? "Cain can win if he gets the takedown", "Anderson Silva is a good striker", things of that variety.

ha yes yes tht's the guy! But dont mock him, Gunshard has picked many winnerz based on the intricate and innovative method of highlight reel analysis.

**Kaladarus** · 01-12-13, 07:35 PM

Upset of the year. Never seen a guy with a line higher than +170 win.

**Crassus** · 01-12-13, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ha yes yes tht's the guy! But dont mock him, Gunshard has picked many winnerz based on the intricate and innovative method of highlight reel analysis.

That was definitely one of my favorite Nunya posts, when he was talking about overlapping two highlight videos as a way to simulate how the actual fight would go.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-13, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

That was definitely one of my favorite Nunya posts, when he was talking about overlapping two highlight videos as a way to simulate how the actual fight would go.

hahahhaahha yeah I just remembered tht after my post! Definitely a strong post of the year candidate!

**Vaughany** · 01-12-13, 07:40 PM

This is the thread it was in!

... http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma...g-play-p3.html

**Crassus** · 01-12-13, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

This is the thread it was in!

... http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma...g-play-p3.html

Forgot about how Charlie was gonna out-wrestle the lacking TDD of Erick Silva and tire him out haha.

**sideloaded** · 01-13-13, 02:23 AM

upset of the year was clearly eddie yagin over homminick.

**gaebiskon** · 01-13-13, 07:16 AM

edgar will not hit +300 imo

**Vaughany** · 01-13-13, 07:24 AM

Gaeberz?!

**Vrakas** · 01-13-13, 01:38 PM

aldo has leg kicks.his biggest weapon in this fight.edgar took hendersons kicks which are twice as hard no problem.the only way aldo wins is with a lucky knock out.this is edgars fight.edgar should be -300.aldo is in for the fight of his life.
speed wise same
power and wrestling edgar advantage

**Rubber Guard** · 01-13-13, 02:42 PM

If it hits +300 that would be nuts. The line already is crazy in my opinion and I don't quite get it. Maybe if it was in Brazil I could see these odds.

That said have Aldo winning because when Frankie gets rocked, Aldo can actually finish him off. But Frankie is a top 3 LW at the least. He has a good shot of beating the FW champ.

**Crassus** · 01-13-13, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

If it hits +300 that would be nuts. The line already is crazy in my opinion and I don't quite get it. Maybe if it was in Brazil I could see these odds.

That said have Aldo winning because when Frankie gets rocked, Aldo can actually finish him off. But Frankie is a top 3 LW at the least. He has a good shot of beating the FW champ.

See that might not be the best way of thinking about it.

Frankie is a top 3 LW thanks in great part due to the fact that he's so much faster than the other LW's (he's naturally a FW) so his huge advantage is kind of nullified in the FW divison.

**face** · 01-15-13, 12:08 PM

can't wait gonna be a good fight

**sideloaded** · 01-15-13, 12:48 PM

I got a bad feeling about this fight. Aldo might KO edgar so hard he shits himself. I dont want that to happen.

**Rubber Guard** · 01-15-13, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

See that might not be the best way of thinking about it.

Frankie is a top 3 LW thanks in great part due to the fact that he's so much faster than the other LW's (he's naturally a FW) so his huge advantage is kind of nullified in the FW divison.

His wrestling may transition even better at FW. He won't be at such a size disadvantage facing guys who weight 180-190 before camp.

So it is a give take.

**sideloaded** · 01-15-13, 05:42 PM

I remember watching greys interviews about training with aldo. It sounded like Aldo handed him his ass in practice.

MD · 01-15-13, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

I remember watching greys interviews about training with aldo. It sounded like Aldo handed him his ass in practice.

I remember watching Grey's anatomy... and I don't mean the TV show.

**caveira** · 01-16-13, 11:26 AM

All the value is with Edgar for this fight. Aldo will need a tko/ko, he is not able to TD Edgar and probably will not win a decision.