tons of value at -110. He's gunna chop Okami's ass down with his kickboxing. Belcher via KO.
Belcher ends fights. Okami prays for a bullshit split decision.
JamesKim
SBR Sharp
09-03-12
392
#2
JUST RETARD
NEXT STOP, HALL OF SHAME
Okami UD
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imadegen
SBR MVP
03-30-11
1261
#3
Originally posted by JamesKim
JUST RETARD
NEXT STOP, HALL OF SHAME
Okami UD
Praying for a UD, yeah that sounds about right. Belcher should be on a 7 fight win streak if it wasn't for that BS split decision call with Akiyama. He's hungry for a title shot, Okami on the other hand got embarassed by silva....like he even ever deserves another rematch with silva.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#4
Belcher takes this. Likely by K.O guy is the most underrated fighter in the ufc middleweight division and seems on point atm. Okami will obviously want to bully Belcher around but Belcher's just more evolved as a fighter now and won't let it happen.
Okami by UD. Belcher will feel the frustration of an elite wrestler laying on you.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#6
Originally posted by Crassus
Okami by UD. Belcher will feel the frustration of an elite wrestler laying on you.
I'm sure he's felt it plenty at the gym already from a more elite wrestler in Ben Askren. Belcher wins.
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Crassus
SBR MVP
01-08-12
1538
#7
Originally posted by Mercersux
I'm sure he's felt it plenty at the gym already from a more elite wrestler in Ben Askren. Belcher wins.
Anyone who knows anything about wrestling knows that Askren's wrestling is completely different from Okami's. There's a reason he's called 'funky'.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#8
Originally posted by Crassus
Anyone who knows anything about wrestling knows that Askren's wrestling is completely different from Okami's. There's a reason he's called 'funky'.
Right. I would put Askren's wrestling a notch above anything Okami is capable of. Okami tends to smother more than Aksren who just shoots from wherever, digs for the takedown and usually gets it. I mean no reason to take jabs at my knowledge of the many sorts of martial arts. I'm just trying to help you out from taking the wrong side in this fight. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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Bradbatross
SBR High Roller
06-27-12
201
#9
Belcher by submission, I'm calling it right now.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#10
Originally posted by Bradbatross
Belcher by submission, I'm calling it right now.
Wouldn't be surprised. Guys submission game has come a long way. If he does get taken down by Okami he's going to need to stay active from the bottom to hopefully set up some sweeps or whatever. I can say with confidence Belcher wins it inside the distance.
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Crassus
SBR MVP
01-08-12
1538
#11
Originally posted by Mercersux
Right. I would put Askren's wrestling a notch above anything Okami is capable of. Okami tends to smother more than Aksren who just shoots from wherever, digs for the takedown and usually gets it. I mean no reason to take jabs at my knowledge of the many sorts of martial arts. I'm just trying to help you out from taking the wrong side in this fight. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
So...I was right and wrestling with Askren really doesn't help with a guy who mainly utilizes Judo takedowns and a very different form of top-grappling.
My bad for being a little bit of a dick about it, but cmon now, they're really not similar fighters. Also, don't ever be that confident in a pick. Ever.
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BIGDAY
SBR Aristocracy
02-17-10
48245
#12
I don't see how Belcher stops the take downs. Okami stays fairly busy on the ground as well. Bad matchup for Belcher.
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Bradbatross
SBR High Roller
06-27-12
201
#13
It pretty well known that Okami is going to be able to take Belcher down..He won't be able to hold him there though.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#14
Originally posted by Crassus
So...I was right and wrestling with Askren really doesn't help with a guy who mainly utilizes Judo takedowns and a very different form of top-grappling.
My bad for being a little bit of a dick about it, but cmon now, they're really not similar fighters. Also, don't ever be that confident in a pick. Ever.
Ok... while Askren and Okami bring different forms of grappling, I just tend to believe Belcher benefits from being able to train with such a high caliber grappler. Do you not think that being able to learn how to work under a fighter with the type of superior top control as Askren isn't something that can be applied to most any sort of fighter? Not only this, but I'm sure they have the benefit of bring in other top notch wrestler since Askren is an olympian. Now Okami has to be able to close distance on Belcher and get a hold of him in order to to implement his judo. I see this being nullified by movement and just keeping Okami at bay with striking. Silva laid out the game plan for how to beat Okami being an excellent striker. Now I'm not saying that Belcher is in the same class as SIlva, but if you lay out all the fighters in the middleweight division, Belcher is behind Silva in the striking department. I've also seen this argument that Okami will use his size, I don't think there is much size difference between the two. Maybe earlier in his career Belcher was smaller than Okami but I just don't see much size difference so that shouldn't be a factor. I understand there is no such thing as a lock in mma, but if someone had a gun to my head and said one pick off this card, I'd go Belcher. I honestly think he takes this in convincing fashion. Good luck Crassus but think you'll be eating it on this one good buddy. If I'm wrong, feel free to shit all over me tonight k?
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#15
Problem with Belcher is he throws a lot of body kicks as well...against Cote he landed 4 or 5 solid left body kicks then threw one right kick and got caught and taken down from it.
Really want to see Belcher throw uppercuts, I dont necessarily mean Jeremy Stephens like ones leaping in from outside but like the ones Boetsch landed that dropped Okami when they were against the cage (more of a dirty boxing type in the clinch). Belcher finished Gouveia with an uppercut not to dissimilar to the ones Boetsch landed so at least he has previous
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#16
Originally posted by Mercersux
Ok... while Askren and Okami bring different forms of grappling, I just tend to believe Belcher benefits from being able to train with such a high caliber grappler. Do you not think that being able to learn how to work under a fighter with the type of superior top control as Askren isn't something that can be applied to most any sort of fighter? Not only this, but I'm sure they have the benefit of bring in other top notch wrestler since Askren is an olympian. Now Okami has to be able to close distance on Belcher and get a hold of him in order to to implement his judo. I see this being nullified by movement and just keeping Okami at bay with striking. Silva laid out the game plan for how to beat Okami being an excellent striker. Now I'm not saying that Belcher is in the same class as SIlva, but if you lay out all the fighters in the middleweight division, Belcher is behind Silva in the striking department. I've also seen this argument that Okami will use his size, I don't think there is much size difference between the two. Maybe earlier in his career Belcher was smaller than Okami but I just don't see much size difference so that shouldn't be a factor. I understand there is no such thing as a lock in mma, but if someone had a gun to my head and said one pick off this card, I'd go Belcher. I honestly think he takes this in convincing fashion. Good luck Crassus but think you'll be eating it on this one good buddy. If I'm wrong, feel free to shit all over me tonight k?
I believe Belcher also brought in an elite Greco-Roman wrestler...pretty sure he wasnt talking about Askren as I think he said he was a big guy
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DeFactoCrippler
SBR MVP
03-30-12
2603
#17
kinda lol at the way the convos here go down
"belcher cant handle his wrestling"
"no he brought in askren"
"but askren is funky so that is invalid"
" good point sir!"
fock man all this for some 10$ bets.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#18
Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
kinda lol at the way the convos here go down
"belcher cant handle his wrestling"
"no he brought in askren"
"but askren is funky so that is invalid"
" good point sir!"
fock man all this for some 10$ bets.
Never good points in a losing bet but hey, I'm trying to be nice. Also, it's a $15 dollar bet this time. Feeling "Funky" tonight. Get it...?
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elchristo
SBR Hustler
12-23-12
65
#19
Okami by TKO, i personnally think akiyama won lol he took a beating!
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phillybadboy
SBR Hall of Famer
12-11-09
9383
#20
u suck will fade
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imadegen
SBR MVP
03-30-11
1261
#21
oh god look at this lay and pray. i'll admit i was wrong when belcher losses this.
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Catchn_Picks
SBR MVP
09-02-11
2984
#22
Shocking fight...I never gave much respect for Okami before
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STAY STRONG
SBR MVP
03-07-10
2498
#23
lol
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Crassus
SBR MVP
01-08-12
1538
#24
What was that earlier offer? About shitting on something or someone? This horse is damn full of water.
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imadegen
SBR MVP
03-30-11
1261
#25
flame on.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#26
Originally posted by crassus
what was that earlier offer? About shitting on something or someone? This horse is damn full of water.
lol fml
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JamesKim
SBR Sharp
09-03-12
392
#27
Originally posted by imadegen
oh god look at this lay and pray. i'll admit i was wrong when belcher losses this.