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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #71
    Originally posted by gabe
    Round 5 - Nicky D. No question. Came closest to ending the fight.
    he had his back. but never close to finishing
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    • Educ8d Degener8
      SBR MVP
      • 01-12-10
      • 3177

      #72
      I gave 10-8's all five rounds in favor of Leonard Garcia.
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      • freelee
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-02-10
        • 751

        #73
        Condit won the fight by fighting as little as possible the same way basketball games were won before the shot clock there needs to be some kind of rule change imo
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        • Sacrelicious
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-29-12
          • 5984

          #74
          nick diaz was robbed.
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          • Sacrelicious
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-29-12
            • 5984

            #75
            robbed, i tell you, robbed!!!

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            • gabe
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-12-11
              • 7405

              #76
              condit is slick, he robbed diaz n didn't even use a gun
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              • stefan084
                SBR MVP
                • 07-21-09
                • 1490

                #77
                just rewatched the fight on root tv-- diaz easily takes 1&2, in 3 condit gets more active but the more powerful,cleaner shots still go to diaz, condit takes 4 pretty convincing IMO, in rd 5 diaz is the only one out of the two that threatens to end the fight by taking condits back--therefore i give diaz 5 also. another thing i didn't notice the first time (drinking) was that starting in rd 2 rogan is all over anything condit does and ignores diaz shots. condit was flashy but i thought diaz was way more effective w/ the exception of rd 4--probably a top 100 robbery. other notable mentions IMO: penn/gsp 1(top 150), penn/edgar 1(top 150), bisping/hamill(top 5) number 1 of all time.........drum roll.......that korean guy that "beat" roy jones jr in the olympics
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                • JSanford
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 08-27-12
                  • 186

                  #78
                  I only watched it once live and remember thinking Condit won an easy decision. Look no further than the stats for the fight.
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                  • stefan084
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-21-09
                    • 1490

                    #79
                    from a boxing perspective diaz wins and it's not close. from a 50 missed spinning back fist, leg kicking from 10 ft away mixed with the occasional effective shot perspective i guess it's close. stat people can say what they want because i suppose a glancing spinning leg kick counts the same on the stat sheet as a vicious body shot. this was the same type of fight imo to penn edgar 1 where franky would buzz around throwing glancing flurries that looked good but did little actual damage, then bj would throw a punch and it would knock edgar back 2 feet and edgar would start the whole circling thing again. flash doesn't equal effective but I guess when rogans telling you how good condit is doing and most on here know nothing about fighting condit winning is accepted--btw i like both condit and diaz and did not bet on the fight so i don't have any obvious bias
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                    • v1y
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-02-11
                      • 1138

                      #80
                      Originally posted by JSanford
                      I only watched it once live and remember thinking Condit won an easy decision. Look no further than the stats for the fight.
                      Real stats of the fight:

                      # of significant strikes landed by condit in rounds 1, 2, and 3: 0.

                      Ergo, diaz won all three rounds, having landed more significant strikes in every round.

                      Nobody gives a shit about "number of love taps landed".
                      Last edited by v1y; 12-28-12, 10:42 AM.
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                      • Judgejoebrwn
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 03-22-12
                        • 471

                        #81
                        Originally posted by v1y
                        Real stats of the fight:

                        # of significant strikes landed by condit in rounds 1, 2, and 3: 0.

                        Ergo, diaz won all three rounds, having landed more significant strikes in every round.

                        Nobody gives a shit about "number of love taps landed".
                        I should be surprised that people are still talking about this, but I guess nothing surprises me when it comes to Diaz nuthuggers anymore.

                        I really like how you give your opinion on how many "actual" significant strikes were landed like it means more than a fart in the wind. Fightmetric shows 90 significant strikes for Condit in the first 3 rounds. Somehow you're impeccable logic dropped that to 0 because you love Diaz and hated the way Condit approached the fight.

                        It's fine to not like what Condit did, but to plain make up shit to help your case is the problem with the Diaz cult nowadays. Same with Stefan up there who said "weak leg kicks are nothing compared to vicious body shots" as if every shot Diaz landed to the body was vicious and every leg kick Condit landed was weak. Clearly he knows cause he was on the receiving end of both, right? Anyone see any pictures of Diaz' leg(s) the day after the fight? He can claim they were baby all he wants during and shortly after the fight, but when his leg(s) are black and blue and swollen the next day...

                        Besides, go back and watch the fight again. In particular, pay attention to their respective faces after the fight was over. Condit looks immaculate outside of a small goose egg under his right eye. Diaz looked like he was hit with a fire extinguisher. What are we still debating here?
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                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-25-08
                          • 7237

                          #82
                          UFC scores
                          Cecil Peoples 49-46 for Condit.
                          Patricia Morse Jarman 49-46 for Condit.
                          Junichiro Kamijo 48-47 for Condit.

                          sherdog
                          Jordan Breen (48-47 Condit)
                          Freddie DeFreitas (48-47 Diaz)
                          Chris Nelson (48-47 Condit)

                          MMA Junkie 49-46 Condit
                          MMA Mania 49-46 Condit
                          MMA Weekly 50-45 Condit
                          MMAFighting 48-47 Condit
                          BloodyElbow 49-46 Condit

                          it's a conspiracy against Diaz bro
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                          • Rubber Guard
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-11
                            • 1550

                            #83
                            You want me to post all of the actual fighters who gave it to Diaz, again?

                            It isn't a conspiracy against Diaz. It was a tough fight to call because Condit fought like a homo and tried to steal the fight with a Greg Jackson gameplan. Ala Clay Guida.

                            Most...actually a large majority of fighters gave it to Diaz.

                            Neither fighter was "robbed". But it surely wasn't a clear cut win for Condit. The only people that were robbed were the fans.
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                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-25-08
                              • 7237

                              #84
                              fighters will always pick the fighter who they like or trained with. Just look at the pro picks on sherdog. the mma sites scores are less biased.
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                              • Rubber Guard
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-22-11
                                • 1550

                                #85
                                Who the F trains with Diaz that picked him on those tweets?

                                Diaz isn't really "boys" with many fighters.

                                Your point is invalid.
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                                • Rubber Guard
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-22-11
                                  • 1550

                                  #86
                                  So you take pointdexters opinion over actual fighters.

                                  We say how bad the judging is in MMA....yet when this happens you use Cecil Peoples as a good indicator? Why? Everyone on sites and forums think old fighters should do more judging.

                                  I'm not saying Diaz was robbed. I'm just saying it was a tough fight to call. If you score a bunch of points for leg taps then you would say Condit won. If you don't then you would say Diaz won.

                                  Shogun drilled Machida with REAL kicks for 5 rounds and wasn't given the decision.

                                  Condit had a couple minutes of 1 round where he was really throwing. When he landed that combo ending with the head kick. Diaz walked through it with ease, but those were actually meaningful shots.
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                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-25-08
                                    • 7237

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                                    Who the F trains with Diaz that picked him on those tweets?

                                    Diaz isn't really "boys" with many fighters.

                                    Your point is invalid.
                                    yea you know who likes Diaz as a fighter or who he's "boys" with
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                                    • NunyaBidness
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 9345

                                      #88
                                      Someone get a gun and put this thread out if it's misery.
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                                      • PunisherIND
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 4979

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                        Someone get a gun and put this thread out if it's misery.
                                        i was thinking about shoving it in front of an oncoming train
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                                        • Rubber Guard
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-22-11
                                          • 1550

                                          #90
                                          Pros sound off with their opinion of the judge's decision for UFC 143's controversial main event, Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit.


                                          Who is he boys with.

                                          Tim Kennedy, man of the military, serious guy, doubting he cares for Diaz's mentality. " I Hate Judges!" following UFC 143.

                                          Mark Muñoz
                                          Gr8 fight! Think Diaz 4 rounds to 1. We'll see! #ufc143

                                          Pat Miletich
                                          That decision was an absolute joke. At best, Condit won 2 rounds.

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                                          • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-25-08
                                            • 7237

                                            #91
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                                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-25-08
                                              • 7237

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                                              http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/5/...dit-pros-score

                                              Who is he boys with.

                                              Tim Kennedy, man of the military, serious guy, doubting he cares for Diaz's mentality. " I Hate Judges!" following UFC 143.

                                              Mark Muñoz
                                              Gr8 fight! Think Diaz 4 rounds to 1. We'll see! #ufc143

                                              Pat Miletich
                                              That decision was an absolute joke. At best, Condit won 2 rounds.

                                              Wow Kennedy and Miletich guys from StrikeForce gave it to the StrikeForce Welterweight champion. Thank you for proving my point valid
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                                              • Fenster
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-03-10
                                                • 145

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Judgejoebrwn
                                                I should be surprised that people are still talking about this, but I guess nothing surprises me when it comes to Diaz nuthuggers anymore.

                                                I really like how you give your opinion on how many "actual" significant strikes were landed like it means more than a fart in the wind. Fightmetric shows 90 significant strikes for Condit in the first 3 rounds. Somehow you're impeccable logic dropped that to 0 because you love Diaz and hated the way Condit approached the fight.

                                                It's fine to not like what Condit did, but to plain make up shit to help your case is the problem with the Diaz cult nowadays. Same with Stefan up there who said "weak leg kicks are nothing compared to vicious body shots" as if every shot Diaz landed to the body was vicious and every leg kick Condit landed was weak. Clearly he knows cause he was on the receiving end of both, right? Anyone see any pictures of Diaz' leg(s) the day after the fight? He can claim they were baby all he wants during and shortly after the fight, but when his leg(s) are black and blue and swollen the next day...

                                                Besides, go back and watch the fight again. In particular, pay attention to their respective faces after the fight was over. Condit looks immaculate outside of a small goose egg under his right eye. Diaz looked like he was hit with a fire extinguisher. What are we still debating here?
                                                That is not possible. He would not have 90 if they fought for 20 rounds.
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                                                • Fenster
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-03-10
                                                  • 145

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                  UFC scores
                                                  Cecil Peoples 49-46 for Condit.
                                                  Patricia Morse Jarman 49-46 for Condit.
                                                  Junichiro Kamijo 48-47 for Condit.

                                                  sherdog
                                                  Jordan Breen (48-47 Condit)
                                                  Freddie DeFreitas (48-47 Diaz)
                                                  Chris Nelson (48-47 Condit)

                                                  MMA Junkie 49-46 Condit
                                                  MMA Mania 49-46 Condit
                                                  MMA Weekly 50-45 Condit
                                                  MMAFighting 48-47 Condit
                                                  BloodyElbow 49-46 Condit

                                                  it's a conspiracy against Diaz bro
                                                  Wow, it really must be. 50-45 for Condit? Jesus Christ, that person should kill himself.
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                                                  • Fenster
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 09-03-10
                                                    • 145

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                    fighters will always pick the fighter who they like or trained with. Just look at the pro picks on sherdog. the mma sites scores are less biased.
                                                    I was a big fan of both Diaz and Condit. Diaz won that fight. No question about it.
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                                                    • Rubber Guard
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-22-11
                                                      • 1550

                                                      #96
                                                      And plenty UFC's nice guys gave it to Diaz as well? What is your point? Ellenberger talked a bunch of shit about Diaz when he came over to the UFC and he gave it to Diaz.

                                                      The politically correct Stann gave it to Condit. Tate, Ronda's foe didn't give it to Diaz. Hmmm, Fitch, a guy who hates Diaz gave it to Condit.

                                                      More UFC guys gave the SF guy the nod than they did Condit. So what is your point? Champs like Anderson, JDS, and Chuck all gave it to Diaz as well.

                                                      Point is, it was hard to judge. If you score pt fighting you gave it to Condit. It worked for Condit, so what do you know a little later Guida (a greg jackson fighter) tries to do the same to Maynard. Because he knew he couldn't out-strike him or out-wrestle him. Fighters gave it to Diaz. Judges gave it to Condit. It was basically 50/50 in terms of general population it seems. The Diaz haters are just as bad as Diaz nut-huggers.
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                                                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-25-08
                                                        • 7237

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                                                        And plenty UFC's nice guys gave it to Diaz as well? What is your point? Ellenberger talked a bunch of shit about Diaz when he came over to the UFC and he gave it to Diaz.

                                                        The politically correct Stann gave it to Condit. Tate, Ronda's foe didn't give it to Diaz. Hmmm, Fitch, a guy who hates Diaz gave it to Condit.
                                                        Thats exactly my point, fighters are way more biased toward who won the fight. The "pointdexters" generally have the fight scored correct according to the rules, not based on Condit fighting like a "homo"
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