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GrabakaSBR MVP
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#246Nice my man. Let do this!Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#247what have you seen in his previous fights that makes you confident Ring will win and wont even be close?Originally posted by JamesKimAm I the only one on Ring? I don't think it's gonna be that close lol
His dominant performances against Court McGee?!Comment -
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#248He's been going on about this right hand in interviews as well!Originally posted by gabeyou mean his left hand.Comment -
JamesKimSBR Sharp
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#249Not really based on results, but Carmozzi over-reaches constantly and doesn't keep his hands up or move his head when he attacks. It just looks really sloppy to me. He also telegraphs the hell out of his strikes and constantly takes his eyes off of his opponents. His chin is also way in the air when he throws strikes. Everything about his striking seems fundamentally broken. He can be aggressive and seems to pack somewhat descent power, so I guess he does present some danger, but I can't see him outstriking Ring.Originally posted by Vaughanywhat have you seen in his previous fights that makes you confident Ring will win and wont even be close?
His dominant performances against Court McGee?!
"Won't even be close" is kind of an overstatement. I just think Ring will win comfortably, not dominantly.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#250fair enough. He does still have a lot of holes in his gameComment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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#251Make sure you include in your capping that for whatever reason Ring has 'the glow'. Judges can't see past it.Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#252Bump for new lines. Cruikshank -140? Yes please!Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#253-175 now.Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#254Missed Dan Miller +170 by a matter of seconds.
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MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#255People are betting on Dan Miller? What the actual f-ck? I was expecting Mein to shoot into the -300 range before we got steam on Miller.Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#256Dan Miller down to +100 now...Comment -
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#257I hit the under on Cruick/Makdes at +155 as well, small, but the line seems favorable.Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#258Had I hit him at +170 I would have as well, unfortunately I was betting on Cruickshank.Originally posted by MDPeople are betting on Dan Miller? What the actual f-ck? I was expecting Mein to shoot into the -300 range before we got steam on Miller.
How he has hit +100, I am entirely unsure...Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#259hard to bet against Miller just because he's so durable...you're basically counting on opponent doing enough to take a decisionComment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#260I cannot justify the bet at even odds. Had I hit the +170 opener, absolutely.Originally posted by Vaughanyhard to bet against Miller just because he's so durable...you're basically counting on opponent doing enough to take a decisionComment -
GrabakaSBR MVP
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#261He might box his eyes out. That would be enough for a dec.Originally posted by Vaughanyhard to bet against Miller just because he's so durable...you're basically counting on opponent doing enough to take a decision
I do like Mein but right under -170. I havent been able to pull the trigger.Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#262Miller's unlikely to catch a finish, either. The problem is that Miller not only isn't the best wrestler in the world (which is his biggest tool, as his standup is horrible and he needs to BJJ clinic someone in order to win a fight), he also has no fight IQ whatsoever. How many takedowns did he try against Bisping, after getting lit up? Two, in the entire fight?Originally posted by Vaughanyhard to bet against Miller just because he's so durable...you're basically counting on opponent doing enough to take a decisionComment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#263Anyone else get on Cruickshank before the line pummeted?Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
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#264Played the over -230 or soOriginally posted by Vaughanyhard to bet against Miller just because he's so durable...you're basically counting on opponent doing enough to take a decision
Only way this doesn't hit is if miller guillotines himComment -
GrabakaSBR MVP
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#265Fokkin Kalikas did a good job with these odds me thinks. IDK what to snatchComment -
GrabakaSBR MVP
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#266- 3/16/2013 10:30 PM Props Fighting 1311 Camozzi wins by 3 round decision* +220 vs Not Camozzi by 3 round decision
Risking $100.00 To Win $220.00 - 3/16/2013 10:00 PM Props Fighting 1407 Ricci wins by 3 round decision* +142 vs Not Ricci by 3 round decision
Risking $100.00 To Win $142.00
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SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#267Shank -140 and Miller +170 were the soft spots, thankfully I got one.Originally posted by GrabakaFokkin Kalikas did a good job with these odds me thinks. IDK what to snatch
Right now, they've already self corrected. Shank at -225.Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#268I actually think Kalikas did a piss-poor job. Either that, or I'm in for a rough weekend.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#269Good, you saved money.Originally posted by SacreliciousMissed Dan Miller +170 by a matter of seconds.
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gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#270You guys are characters. Mein should surely be -300Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#271Top 15 Welterweight vs Bottom 15 WelterweightOriginally posted by gabeYou guys are characters. Mein should surely be -300Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#272maybe, he should win but as I said above my fear would be Miller's durability. Do you think Mein can finish Miller? Bisping, Maia, Sonnen, Paul Harris, and Marquardt couldnt. And Miller has had his first fight at WW so should in theory feel more comfortable now making the weight and fighting at tht weight. Like Mein a lot but Im not that confident in him finishing Dan so you're then dicing with the retarded judges.Originally posted by gabeYou guys are characters. Mein should surely be -300Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#273Dan Miller is Jim Miller's brother.
Haven't seen Gunshard in a while...where you at Gunshard (Nick Diaz voice)?Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#274I wouldnt say Miller was soft...you'll probably get a better line nearer fight time, closer to +200. ALthough if you're saying it was soft based on what you think he should be then yes it is obviously!Originally posted by SacreliciousShank -140 and Miller +170 were the soft spots, thankfully I got one.
Right now, they've already self corrected. Shank at -225.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#275agreed.Originally posted by BeelzebubzyPlayed the over -230 or so
Only way this doesn't hit is if miller guillotines him
Or if ref does an early stoppage if Mein drops him but obvs unlikey.Comment -
SacreliciousSBR Hall of Famer
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#276This forum is just not the same without Gunshard.Originally posted by VaughanyDan Miller is Jim Miller's brother.
Haven't seen Gunshard in a while...where you at Gunshard (Nick Diaz voice)?Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#277Probably can't finish him, but can surely take a comfortable 30-27.Originally posted by Vaughanymaybe, he should win but as I said above my fear would be Miller's durability. Do you think Mein can finish Miller? Bisping, Maia, Sonnen, Paul Harris, and Marquardt couldnt. And Miller has had his first fight at WW so should in theory feel more comfortable now making the weight and fighting at tht weight. Like Mein a lot but Im not that confident in him finishing Dan so you're then dicing with the retarded judges.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#278I mean, come on, Ricardo Funch nearly decisioned MillerOriginally posted by gabeProbably can't finish him, but can surely take a comfortable 30-27.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#279I say Mein can win at least 2 rounds comfortablyComment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#280Agree entirely. But still, he's a big WW now and might be able to steal rounds just by grinding Mein against the cage or something. I just always hesitate when thinking about backing a fighter at -150 or worse odds when you know it's likely that it goes to decision and then hoping the judges dont screw you overOriginally posted by MDMiller's unlikely to catch a finish, either. The problem is that Miller not only isn't the best wrestler in the world (which is his biggest tool, as his standup is horrible and he needs to BJJ clinic someone in order to win a fight), he also has no fight IQ whatsoever. How many takedowns did he try against Bisping, after getting lit up? Two, in the entire fight?Comment
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