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  • ryanXL977
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-24-08
    • 20615

    #1
    unit-175 vs baek
    and webb-250 vs roenike

    if this isnt evidence why people should never, ever, ever, ever, ever lay over -120 on the road, then i dont know what is

    people, bullpens matter more than anything, any single factor, in baseball

    the starting pitcers name means less than the men who come in after him

    how many games are blowouts after 6?

    dont lay on the road,
  • fifawcs
    SBR MVP
    • 05-14-07
    • 2888

    #2
    It's a good thing I couldn't add this game to my parlay. I thought the Dbacks would take this one.
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      i thought so for sure, but the more you watch, the more you see home dogs win so much, and laying on favorites, just about EVER, is a losing proposition
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      • The_Kid
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-09-08
        • 5049

        #4
        Padres are playing for pride now, but I still can't believe AZ getting swept.

        They just threw away three games to the Padres of all teams.
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        • ryanXL977
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-24-08
          • 20615

          #5
          2 of them were bullpen losses
          one they got ripped in
          it happens, teams get sweapt all the time
          mariners about to sweep minne
          bosox about to sweep nyy
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          • BadBeatBodog
            SBR MVP
            • 06-05-08
            • 1006

            #6
            How can you say bullpens matter more in baseball than anything? Ridiculous statement! The only thing that matters less is the manager.
            "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

            "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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            • ryanXL977
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-24-08
              • 20615

              #7
              right
              good point, pens dont matter
              you are right
              i am wrong
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              • The_Kid
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-09-08
                • 5049

                #8
                Yeah, I agree BBB. Managers can be so incompetent when managing. Take Florida's loss yesterday. Fredi Gonzalez still left Gregg in to pitch even though he was getting hammered.
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  who did you want him to bring in there?

                  and gregg got out of it if hanley gets a routine gidp
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                  • BadBeatBodog
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-05-08
                    • 1006

                    #10
                    Did I say pens don't matter? Every part of a team matters, but it's all relative. Starting pitchers have more impact on a game than any other individual player on the team. The other eight guys on the field play both offense and defense. Guys in the bullpen, apart from the occasional blow out, will pitch one or two innings at most, and never more than three days in a row. What is your reasoning that bullpens matter the most?
                    "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                    "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                    • ryanXL977
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-24-08
                      • 20615

                      #11
                      the only reason i think pens matter is bc i have watched games for 20+ years or more

                      other than that, they dont

                      anyone who says starters matter more than pens doesnt watch games
                      you included

                      tb doesnt lose games, their pen is why they are in first
                      the mets would be 5-10 up with a mediocre pen

                      blowing leads destroys teams
                      i see it every year
                      rockies solidified a pen last year and won the division with the best 1-2 punch in the league post asb, fuentes and corpas

                      nothing matters more than pens
                      nothing
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                      • smitch124
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-19-08
                        • 12566

                        #12
                        The last few days of August, almost all pens are on fumes. All the teams eagerly awaiting September call-ups...
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                        • BadBeatBodog
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-05-08
                          • 1006

                          #13
                          So the starter for the Mets who keeps them in the game singlehandedly by not allowing a run over eight innings is less important than the one guy coming out of the bullpen who implodes in an inning? I think you are blinded by the fact that just because the bullpen works the end of the game you think that makes it more important, which isn't true.
                          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                          • ryanXL977
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-24-08
                            • 20615

                            #14
                            the end of the game is when the game is won or lost
                            the first part doesnt matter. games dont end after 6 inningas
                            they end after 9
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                            • Kingctb27
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-16-08
                              • 2258

                              #15
                              You bet on a bad hitting offense. Just because they were big favs on the road doesn't mean that other big favs on the road can't win. Quit betting on teams that can't hit worth a shit.
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                              • ryanXL977
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-24-08
                                • 20615

                                #16
                                who bet on az?
                                never lay on the road
                                ever
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                                • unde0087
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-27-08
                                  • 28951

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                  and webb-250 vs roenike

                                  if this isnt evidence why people should never, ever, ever, ever, ever lay over -120 on the road, then i dont know what is

                                  people, bullpens matter more than anything, any single factor, in baseball

                                  the starting pitcers name means less than the men who come in after him

                                  how many games are blowouts after 6?

                                  dont lay on the road,

                                  How about the other two morning games yesterday?

                                  Perkins -200 Winner
                                  Marquis -175 Winner

                                  both heavy favs on the road, both win
                                  if you bet all the favs yesterday morning at these prices you would have made money
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #18
                                    go back the last 7 days and take every road fave and see how much you lose
                                    or the whole year

                                    even if you took perkins and marquis yesterday, you lose the profit on webb and then some

                                    if you think laying -200 on the road is smart, by all means, keep betting road faves of -175-200
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                                    • Kingctb27
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-16-08
                                      • 2258

                                      #19
                                      Who the F is gonna lay that much on every road team? Do you think people just take every -200 bet they see? jesus christ.
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        yes, they do
                                        thats why the lines are -200
                                        does anyone here actually understand how lines work?
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                                        • unde0087
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-27-08
                                          • 28951

                                          #21
                                          Check my stats, haven't layed that kind of juice. The highest I have put down was yesterday on the Santana and the Mets -163 which should have been -210
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            mets should not be -210 on the road
                                            ever
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