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  • jtuck
    SBR MVP
    • 02-18-08
    • 2051

    #1
    Rays are the play tonight
    I dont like to stick my neck out and post a thread telling people to play one unless it looks really, really good to me, and this one does. Not saying its a lock, they dont exist, but its a very good value as the line has been beat up by people backing the Angels on the theory that "they won't get swept".

    The rays are 43-10 in their last 53 home games. This year they are 6-2 against the Angels and are 5-0 against the Halos at Tropicana Field. The angels are 1-4 on their current road swing and have just about locked up the AL West. Weaver has struggled in his last 5 starts, with a 6.57 ERA and 1.58 WHIP. The Angels are just 5-8 in Weaver's road starts, in which he's 5-5 with a 4.89 ERA and 1.45 WHIP. On the other side, Garza has a 3.48 ERA and 1.25 WHIP. He's lights out at home, going 6-2 with a2.47 ERA and 1.11 WHIP. Weaver doesnt eat up alot of innings, which could also be a problem as Shields and Oliver both pitched last night for the Angels pen and were less than spectacular. The Angels are slightly better offensively than the Rays are vs. right handed pitchers as of late, but i think the pitching disparity more than makes up for the small gap between the two offensively.

    Line currently -112 at BetOnline, great value.
  • johnnymapalo
    SBR MVP
    • 06-14-08
    • 2999

    #2
    Originally posted by jtuck
    I dont like to stick my neck out and post a thread telling people to play one unless it looks really, really good to me, and this one does. Not saying its a lock, they dont exist, but its a very good value as the line has been beat up by people backing the Angels on the theory that "they won't get swept".

    The rays are 43-10 in their last 53 home games. This year they are 6-2 against the Angels and are 5-0 against the Halos at Tropicana Field. The angels are 1-4 on their current road swing and have just about locked up the AL West. Weaver has struggled in his last 5 starts, with a 6.57 ERA and 1.58 WHIP. The Angels are just 5-8 in Weaver's road starts, in which he's 5-5 with a 4.89 ERA and 1.45 WHIP. On the other side, Garza has a 3.48 ERA and 1.25 WHIP. He's lights out at home, going 6-2 with a2.47 ERA and 1.11 WHIP. Weaver doesnt eat up alot of innings, which could also be a problem as Shields and Oliver both pitched last night for the Angels pen and were less than spectacular. The Angels are slightly better offensively than the Rays are vs. right handed pitchers as of late, but i think the pitching disparity more than makes up for the small gap between the two offensively.

    Line currently -112 at BetOnline, great value.

    Your on your own buds. I kinda like the Padres tonite. Have to research it more..
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      rays win
      az wins
      peavy aint shit away from petco

      tb is the play
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      • gm2022
        SBR MVP
        • 02-28-08
        • 4128

        #4
        Originally posted by ryanXL977
        rays win
        az wins
        peavy aint shit away from petco

        tb is the play
        +1
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        • johnnymapalo
          SBR MVP
          • 06-14-08
          • 2999

          #5
          Originally posted by ryanXL977
          rays win
          az wins
          peavy aint shit away from petco

          tb is the play
          Watch those wild accusations!! Mind you bite those same words later tonight when I hold you accountable!!!
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          • ryanXL977
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-24-08
            • 20615

            #6
            bet whoever you want jonny, its fine with me

            but peavy is not much better, if at all, than haren
            especially on the road, with no offense, on an AWFUL team against a first place team

            gl with your bets
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            • FadeThePublic
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-08-08
              • 653

              #7
              Originally posted by jtuck
              I dont like to stick my neck out and post a thread telling people to play one unless it looks really, really good to me, and this one does. Not saying its a lock, they dont exist, but its a very good value as the line has been beat up by people backing the Angels on the theory that "they won't get swept".

              The rays are 43-10 in their last 53 home games. This year they are 6-2 against the Angels and are 5-0 against the Halos at Tropicana Field. The angels are 1-4 on their current road swing and have just about locked up the AL West. Weaver has struggled in his last 5 starts, with a 6.57 ERA and 1.58 WHIP. The Angels are just 5-8 in Weaver's road starts, in which he's 5-5 with a 4.89 ERA and 1.45 WHIP. On the other side, Garza has a 3.48 ERA and 1.25 WHIP. He's lights out at home, going 6-2 with a2.47 ERA and 1.11 WHIP. Weaver doesnt eat up alot of innings, which could also be a problem as Shields and Oliver both pitched last night for the Angels pen and were less than spectacular. The Angels are slightly better offensively than the Rays are vs. right handed pitchers as of late, but i think the pitching disparity more than makes up for the small gap between the two offensively.

              Line currently -112 at BetOnline, great value.
              You couldn't be more wrong. Weaver is 2-0 this year against the rays. Winning once in LA and once in TB. I've been on the rays the first two games but I don't see the Angels getting swept by the rays with Weaver on the mound. The angels are the play tonight.
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              • AC1318
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-09-06
                • 6712

                #8
                weaver has a 1.50 ERA in 14 innings vs TB with a 2-0 record

                so if you like TB under may be good play as well
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                • jtuck
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-18-08
                  • 2051

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FadeThePublic
                  You couldn't be more wrong. Weaver is 2-0 this year against the rays. Winning once in LA and once in TB. I've been on the rays the first two games but I don't see the Angels getting swept by the rays with Weaver on the mound. The angels are the play tonight.
                  Yes, all of the stats i wrote are much less important to this game than the two games Weaver has pitched this year vs. the Rays.
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                  • ryanXL977
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 20615

                    #10
                    qhoi cares what weaver did the first two games, is weaver a 1.5 era pitcher? nope, so why wouldnt he come back to the norm today

                    what a pointless stat
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                    • jtuck
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-18-08
                      • 2051

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ryanXL977
                      qhoi cares what weaver did the first two games, is weaver a 1.5 era pitcher? nope, so why wouldnt he come back to the norm today

                      what a pointless stat
                      Thats two posts i've read from this guy and neither makes sense. If he thinks the Angels are the play i'd kinda like to know why, besides weaver winning 2 games against them two months ago.
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                      • ryanXL977
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-24-08
                        • 20615

                        #12
                        i mean, both of these teams are awesome, so its not bad to bet either
                        and you can use any stats you want to bet either side,

                        a: laa doesnt get swept, so bet laa
                        b: weaver kicks tb's ass this yr, bet laa
                        c: tb doesnt lose at home, bet tb
                        d: garza is a bad ass at home, bet tb

                        i mean, it can go on and on

                        but using weavers prior stats vs tb, as if he has them befuddled, is dumb

                        weaver is garbage

                        he isnt lackey or haren or webb or johan

                        he is a #3-4 starter, on the road, ojn a team with nothing to play for

                        ps. marlins
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                        • khaliagent
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-13-08
                          • 2117

                          #13
                          good i got the rays and lad/col over 7.5 against z boi
                          i think i will sweep...and z boi playing it safe with the chi sox-200.
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                          • jtuck
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-18-08
                            • 2051

                            #14
                            Guys who bet off of trends should bet angels.
                            Guys who bet off of stats should bet rays.
                            Obviously I'm a stats guy.
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                            • khaliagent
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-13-08
                              • 2117

                              #15
                              what trends do you speak of...im curious because i was simply gonna bet the angels based on the fact that i dont think garza will have a good game.
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                              • khaliagent
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-13-08
                                • 2117

                                #16
                                i did some research and went with the rays though
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                                • jtuck
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-18-08
                                  • 2051

                                  #17
                                  Pretty much the only trends that i've found are banking on the fact that the angels wont get swept and that Weaver has pitched well in two games against the rays this year.
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                                  • chipski
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-16-07
                                    • 1745

                                    #18
                                    am on the angels because they have a better team and gave the game away yesterday . the rays played great and made some outstanding defensive plays ..
                                    sun might not shine on a dog's butt 3 nights in a row against a serious powerhouse team .
                                    some breaks should go in the angels favor in game 3 tonight ..

                                    i actually was looking for the rays pen to give it away is why i had the angels last night and it worked in reverse . shields in the 8th was the curse .
                                    angels let them get away early , should have had a 3 or 4 run inn early but it fizzed out .
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                                    • FadeThePublic
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-08-08
                                      • 653

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jtuck
                                      Thats two posts i've read from this guy and neither makes sense. If he thinks the Angels are the play i'd kinda like to know why, besides weaver winning 2 games against them two months ago.
                                      Your funny man. Don't get mad. I'm just teasing you. Some pitchers pitch well against certain teams just like some batters hit well against certain pitchers and in certain ballparks. To say that weaver being 2-0 this year against a team like the rays is a useless stat is absurd. Find out the hard way buddy.
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                                      • jtuck
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-18-08
                                        • 2051

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FadeThePublic
                                        Your funny man. Don't get mad. I'm just teasing you. Some pitchers pitch well against certain teams just like some batters hit well against certain pitchers and in certain ballparks. To say that weaver being 2-0 this year against a team like the rays is a useless stat is absurd. Find out the hard way buddy.
                                        I posted that before you began making sense, rough start but you got on track. If thats the way you cap and its successful then stick with it, i'm just giving my opinion on what makes the rays a strong play. We'll see in a couple of hours.
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                                        • ryanXL977
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-24-08
                                          • 20615

                                          #21
                                          there went the great jared weavers 1.5 era

                                          lol
                                          hiiii larious
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                                          • gm2022
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-28-08
                                            • 4128

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                            there went the great jared weavers 1.5 era

                                            lol
                                            hiiii larious
                                            Hahahaha, lets score 10 more call this game a night
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                                            • khaliagent
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-13-08
                                              • 2117

                                              #23
                                              looks like rays win it.
                                              all i will need is lad over7.5 for the 2-0 day against z boi.
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                game aint close to over
                                                not close
                                                but weaver prior numbers seem to be meaningless right about now, which was my initial pt

                                                gm, you on fla?
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                                                • ryanXL977
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-24-08
                                                  • 20615

                                                  #25
                                                  i wodner if any idiots thought a 3-0 games was over
                                                  probably those who dont watch baseball much
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                                                  • jtuck
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-18-08
                                                    • 2051

                                                    #26
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                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                      • 20615

                                                      #27
                                                      long way to go
                                                      not worried at all
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                                                      • BearBryant
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 07-25-08
                                                        • 126

                                                        #28
                                                        I agree with you Ryan, and lets go ANGELS!!!!
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                                                        • SlappyWhite
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 443

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jtuck
                                                          Guys who bet off of trends should bet angels.
                                                          Guys who bet off of stats should bet rays.
                                                          Obviously I'm a stats guy.
                                                          Stats are the way to go, sweep stats are meaningless.
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                                                          • chipski
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-16-07
                                                            • 1745

                                                            #30
                                                            stats are how the lines are created . what else do the oddmakers have to look at to release the OPENING LINES .
                                                            if the stats were the primary way to go there would not be so many dog wins / balanced results for the day is normal . lol
                                                            instead dogs win all the time and the spread covers in all sports get screwed like clockwork .
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                                                            • ryanXL977
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-24-08
                                                              • 20615

                                                              #31
                                                              long way to go
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                                                              • Sandro777
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-14-08
                                                                • 368

                                                                #32
                                                                I took NYM -1.5 and TAM -1.5 parlay.

                                                                Tampa just had 1st and 3rd 1 out and popped out and struck out. Tie game. My only shot now is a 2 run home run in the 9th or extras lol
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                                                                • jtuck
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-18-08
                                                                  • 2051

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • FadeThePublic
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-08-08
                                                                    • 653

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Halos win! Weaver is now 3-0 against the rays this year. Remember this next time weaver pitches against the rays. Not a useless stat. The man can pitch the rays well. Close game but a win is a win. Very tough for ANY team to sweep the angels regardless of who is pitching
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                                                                    • jtuck
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-18-08
                                                                      • 2051

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by FadeThePublic
                                                                      Halos win! Weaver is now 3-0 against the rays this year. Remember this next time weaver pitches against the rays. Not a useless stat. The man can pitch the rays well. Close game but a win is a win. Very tough for ANY team to sweep the angels regardless of who is pitching
                                                                      I think i'll start following the pitcher thing a little closer. Not handicapping with it yet, but just following to see if there is anything to it.
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