His home/road splits are moot in this argument. Please read up on BAbip.
Whats the best plays for EARLY THURSDAY???
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BadBeatBodogSBR MVP
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#36"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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ryanXL977SBR Posting Legend
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#37dunns career numbers at coors , adjusted for less games, aint even close
explain why holliday hits like 380 at coorsComment -
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#39Ryan I'm trying to explain but you aren't following. Holliday's home/road splits in THIS argument are moot. They do a great job showing how overrated he is offensively, but they don't prove Coors helps Holliday more than Dunn. Dunn receives a bigger boost by Coors because he hits more fly balls. Does that make sense to you?"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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#40Astros -160 is my play for the early games.
Pitching advantage = Astros
Batting advantage = Astros
Hot Team = Astros (11-2 in August)
Cold Team = Giants (6-6 in August with two lucky winners thanks to two Dodgers blown saves)
Hot pitcher Brian Moehler for the Astros.
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BadBeatBodogSBR MVP
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#41They have almost the same exact OPS at Coors, but Holliday needs a .390 BAbip to do it versus .333 for Dunn. I'm not comfortable making this comparison because of Dunn's small sample size, though."Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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ryanXL977SBR Posting Legend
- 02-24-08
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#42i understand what you are saying, you cannot pick and choose which days haren or dunn will have good games or bad
but i can say with certainty that holliday will have more good games at coors than anyone else, because he does. obviously he is overrated but his stats at coors cannot be ignored.
dunn strikes out more than holliday right? so thats less fly balls right thereComment -
ryanXL977SBR Posting Legend
- 02-24-08
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#43i am not a retard, i understand all your points, i understand regression
guys do have bad years and good ones
i mean dempster, makes no sense at all, arod alsoComment -
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#44Dunn: 37% GB%
Holliday: 46% GB%"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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ryanXL977SBR Posting Legend
- 02-24-08
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#45what about holliday at coors? whats his gb %
also, if dunn k's more, than holliday has a better chance in non strikeout at bats to get hits or homers
also, you are arguing manny is better than dunn? you moneyball guys are wrong about dunn.Comment -
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#46Dunn better than Manny? Hell, Brian Giles is better than Manny.
And don't call me a moneyball guy that makes no sense. If anything call me a sabermetric enthusiast.
I cannot find home/away GB% splits but there's no way there is a big disparity."Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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#47I misread your post. I agree with you that Dunn is much better than Manny. And as I said in the last post I think even Giles is better than Manny.
Pat is the one who thinks Manny is better, and I would not call him a "moneyball guy" and I do not believe he is big into sabermetrics. I could be wrong, though."Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
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ryanXL977SBR Posting Legend
- 02-24-08
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#48you think giles is better than manny? has giles ever swung the batComment -
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#49Astros -160 is my play for the early games.
Pitching advantage = Astros
Batting advantage = Astros
Hot Team = Astros (11-2 in August)
Cold Team = Giants (6-6 in August with two lucky winners thanks to two Dodgers blown saves)
Hot pitcher Brian Moehler for the Astros.
Correia has a 5.82 road ERAComment
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