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  • jtuck
    SBR MVP
    • 02-18-08
    • 2051

    #1
    White Sox +132?
    White are 39-18 at home, Red 27-35 on the road. Beckett and Danks have very similar overall numbers on the season. Beckett 1-2, 4.74 ERA and 1.47 WHIP his last 3. Danks 2-0, 4.34 ERA, 1.23 WHIP his last 3. Numbers in night games are virtually identical. Dotel, Jenks, Thorton all available for White bullpen. White scoring 6.22 runs per game at home off righties, Red scoring 4.23 runs per game on the road vs. Lefties. Only reason I see not to take the White Sox is that Beckett is 4-0 against them in his career while Danks is 0-2 against the Red Sox. Anyone have a better reason than that?
  • pat venditto
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-07-07
    • 14347

    #2
    I think white sox win today
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      no brainer
      i dont care what beckett is in his career, he is going to lose to them sometime, they are at home, have a better pen, and the sox dont win on the road

      this is a ****ing gem
      chisox may lose, but +130 at home is insane for a .700 team at home
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      • jtuck
        SBR MVP
        • 02-18-08
        • 2051

        #4
        Should i play it now or do yall think the public is going to back Beckett and give us a better price on the White Sox?
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        • ryanXL977
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-24-08
          • 20615

          #5
          i think people will pound bosox, to be honest
          favorites get pounded after people lose the early games, they always chase with favorites
          always!

          watch the phils line move to philly+130 when some of the early games end
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          • jtuck
            SBR MVP
            • 02-18-08
            • 2051

            #6
            Originally posted by ryanXL977
            i think people will pound bosox, to be honest
            favorites get pounded after people lose the early games, they always chase with favorites
            always!

            watch the phils line move to philly+130 when some of the early games end
            Figured as much, but the line on the white sox seems so far off i think the public may pick up on it.
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            • johnnymapalo
              SBR MVP
              • 06-14-08
              • 2999

              #7
              Play the Red Sox. Danks is a gas can. I wouldn't lay $1.00 of my money on him... Plus Venditoo says the White Sox will win so fading him is easy dineros..
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              • ryanXL977
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-24-08
                • 20615

                #8
                laying -140 on the road is an idiotic way to bet
                moronic
                mapolic
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                • fifawcs
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-14-07
                  • 2888

                  #9
                  Danks is good pitcher and all, but he is on the decline. Beckett seems to get better as the season progresses. Also, Beckett is a great road pitcher. I'm not on either side, but I think the BoSox will win.
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                  • ryanXL977
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 20615

                    #10
                    i cant predict who wins or loses games, i can only say this, a .700 home team vs a 400 road team is getting +130
                    how am i supposed to lay off that? bc of josh beckett? who is josh beckett? he aint johan, he aint webb
                    he has a 3.5 era
                    **** beckett
                    and the sox have no pen at all
                    none
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                    • jtuck
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-18-08
                      • 2051

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnnymapalo
                      Play the Red Sox. Danks is a gas can. I wouldn't lay $1.00 of my money on him... Plus Venditoo says the White Sox will win so fading him is easy dineros..
                      This is why this place has started becoming a joke. I cap a game and give stats that strongly point one way, ask if anyone has an idea of why the line is what it is, and i get "Danks is a gas can" and 'Fade Venditto", who i think is on a 21-8 run and isnt even playing this game.
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                      • ryanXL977
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-24-08
                        • 20615

                        #12
                        if you listen to jonny mapalo, he will basically take the favorite in every game, i highly highly doubt he watches much baseball

                        most people in here simply take the better pitcher and bet on the starter, well, thats an idiotic way to bet unless that starter is named brandon webb

                        betting the home dog is the best way to win cash, the chisox are good, they are at home, they have a better pen and they are plus money
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                        • Mike Rose
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-29-08
                          • 104

                          #13
                          On the surface, Beckett minus a buck and a half is value in my book. That said; he hasn't been the same pitcher in '08 as in years past. He looked solid his last time out at KC, but we all know Kaufmann Stadium ain't "The Cell", and the White Sox are leaps and bounds better than the Royals looking to win this four game set. After Boston humiliated them a year ago (Won 7/8), Chicago really wants this one bad to hold serve at home before meeting up again in Boston later this month.

                          Danks has been the glue within the Palehose rotation this year (9-4 3.21 ERA), and is coming off another solid home outing where he outdueled Justin Verlander. Big bulky line-ups don't intimidate him whatsoever. The BoSox lit him up like a X-Mas tree twice last year, but being the gamer he is I fully expect him to want to face these guys and get the best of them in the process.

                          Value clearly resides with the home team in this spot whose made bettors a boatload of cash at home in '08.....
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                          • ryanXL977
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-24-08
                            • 20615

                            #14
                            exactly
                            no pen for the bosox either
                            none, and ortiz aint hitting lefties for shit
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                            • B1GER1C828
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-31-07
                              • 10244

                              #15
                              sox are 21-9 vs lefties...they will put up 6-7 runs 2nite vs chisox and win it..cash on the RL and ML
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                              • Dbldown11
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-17-06
                                • 3605

                                #16
                                Im a huge white sox fan, but im not playing this game. I actually think the red sox win this game, but i personally am going with the under 8.5 on this game. I expect a very low scoring game in this one
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                                • acuraintegralove
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 05-20-08
                                  • 104

                                  #17
                                  I'm stayin away... this game could go either way. Both teams are playing well.
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #18
                                    i think most games i watch can go either way, so i will take the home dog

                                    **** boston
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                                    • jtuck
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-18-08
                                      • 2051

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by acuraintegralove
                                      I'm stayin away... this game could go either way. Both teams are playing well.
                                      If the game could go either way, wouldnt you take the team at +134?
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        exactly

                                        and NEWSFLASH: every game can go either way, mets-190, lose
                                        dodgers yesterday lose
                                        happens everyday

                                        take the home dog, better record, better pen
                                        beckett aint webb
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                                        • HeeeHAWWWW
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-13-08
                                          • 5487

                                          #21
                                          Jumped on white sox, simply cos of +136. I make them more like 45% (ie edge of 6%).
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            chisox win 70% at home and bosox win like 40-45% on the road
                                            why in gods name do people pound bosox? bc of beckett?

                                            bitch please
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                                            • HeeeHAWWWW
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-13-08
                                              • 5487

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                              chisox win 70% at home and bosox win like 40-45% on the road
                                              why in gods name do people pound bosox?

                                              I have explored this question to phd level, and have come to the conclusion it's because they're ***ing thick.
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                                              • Wilforth
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 05-10-08
                                                • 16309

                                                #24
                                                This game is an interesting one involving two pitchers that pitch better on the road. Beckett is 5-5 on the road with an ERA of 3.58 while Danks at home is 4-3 with an ERA of 3.78. So starting pitcher stats doesn't really give any edge to either side. History seems to favor BoSox as they're 8-2 against WSox, but something tells me the WSox's current home form gives them an edge on this occasion. I'm going with the WSox.
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                                                • jtuck
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-18-08
                                                  • 2051

                                                  #25
                                                  Late money in on White Sox, waited too long and got it at +130. Still +135 at 5 Dimes if you've got money there
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                                                  • Wilforth
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 05-10-08
                                                    • 16309

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                    chisox win 70% at home and bosox win like 40-45% on the road
                                                    why in gods name do people pound bosox? bc of beckett?

                                                    bitch please
                                                    Ryan,

                                                    I hope you're on the WSox. Anytime we're on the same side, we win!
                                                    Get on the WSox (they're now around +130) and let's steal this one from the books.
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                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                      • 20615

                                                      #27
                                                      im on chisox too
                                                      been awful lately though
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                                                      • jtuck
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-18-08
                                                        • 2051

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                        im on chisox too
                                                        been awful lately though
                                                        I'm on a 1-5 run after being on fire, Hopefully we bust out of our slumps
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                                                        • Wilforth
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 05-10-08
                                                          • 16309

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jtuck
                                                          I'm on a 1-5 run after being on fire, Hopefully we bust out of our slumps
                                                          You'll rise up with the WSox tonight.
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            jtuck, i want to play with your big fake titties
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                                                            • jtuck
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-18-08
                                                              • 2051

                                                              #31
                                                              I do as well, Maybe an avatar change will turn my luck around
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                                                              • Chi_archie
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-22-08
                                                                • 63167

                                                                #32
                                                                good common sense/logical discussion in this thread of a real-world example of a game that repeated many times over separates the squares and the "not-so-squares" ( I won't go so far so say sharps or pros).

                                                                A good hitting, decent bullpen, home underdog that plays good at home. against an overvalued pitcher/team because of his/their past and overexposure on sportscenter ect.

                                                                alot of the public thinks becket is super human due to how he has performed on a national stage in october. but a little research shows you that he has been quite pedestrian this year and post-all star. Like its been said, this isn't webb, or big unit in his prime, or clemens on roids...

                                                                I don't know how this one turns out, but i think over a long period of time if you find 1 of these games a day and bet on it, I think you do alright..
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                                                                • ryanXL977
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-24-08
                                                                  • 20615

                                                                  #33
                                                                  home dogs, in general, are the way to win money
                                                                  day in and day out, home dogs win, and if they are plus decent money like +115 or more, its very good news

                                                                  this game is a one run game, so basically tied
                                                                  but it means NOTHING how beckett has done in the past vs chisox, its a new year

                                                                  starting pitching is important, but i am not sure how danks is any worse than beckett, we all know the chisox pen is the best , or top 5 , in the majors and bostons is bottom 10

                                                                  its just boggles my mind that people lay on the road, i do it sometimes, but rarely

                                                                  and when i do, i lose (dodgers last night)
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                                    • 20615

                                                                    #34
                                                                    and if i may say to ole jonnymapalo, if danks is a gas can, then what is beckett
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                                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                                      • 20615

                                                                      #35
                                                                      every time a no hitter ends, it ends with a bang
                                                                      ****ing danks is a 6 inning pitcher, i dont blame them for leaving him in to face drew
                                                                      but it sucks if you had chisox
                                                                      aint over yet
                                                                      but chisox keep leaving men on
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