Tor/Balt

[sickler]

Is there talk of a pitching change, or flu bug spreading through the Jays clubhouse?

Marcum is coming off the DL, but his ERA is less than half of Olsons. 2.65 vs 5.79. Pinnacle has Jays +108. Wow

Maybe his elbow hasn't healed.

[LT Profits]

Marcum will no doubt be on a pitch count, and he is a precision pitcher that is not overpowering, so the layoff should hurt him a bit as his location may be slightly off.

[LT Profits]

Oh and I feel better about getting O's +105 earlier.

[Wilforth]

Got the O's at +100 before the bookmakers realized the O's are the real favorites on this occasion.

[Clueless_Norway]

Gonna take my chances on the Jays in this one...
Olson havn't just been "not good" lately, but realy bad with a 10.2 ERA and a 2.13 WHIP. Also he is giving up 2.4 HR/9 and 1.6 HR/6 against Marcums 0.9 HR/9 and 0.6 HR/6... I think Marcum is better than Olson also of the DL + the Jays are outhitting the O's in their L10 and the Jays got the better pen...

[sickler]

Damn, there's two identical threads on this board.

Clueless, I'm with you...

LT, pretty decent scalp.

[Wilforth]

Gonna take my chances on the Jays in this one...
Olson havn't just been "not good" lately, but realy bad with a 10.2 ERA and a 2.13 WHIP. Also he is giving up 2.4 HR/9 and 1.6 HR/6 against Marcums 0.9 HR/9 and 0.6 HR/6... I think Marcum is better than Olson also of the DL + the Jays are outhitting the O's in their L10 and the Jays got the better pen...

No one is doubting Marcum's credentials but just coming off the DL, he'll be a little rusty. Olson is on a redemption mission. He's been improving since he was last shelled in Toronto. One looks forward to a fine outing from Olson. Finally, the O's batters can be relied upon to post more runs than the Jays.

[sickler]

No one is doubting Marcum's credentials but just coming off the DL, he'll be a little rusty. Olson is on a redemption mission. He's been improving since he was last shelled in Toronto. One looks forward to a fine outing from Olson. Finally, the O's batters can be relied upon to post more runs than the Jays.

Olson has only had one start since he was shelled in TO, and gave up 5 runs in 6 innings. Hardly encouraging.

but GL

[max_asdf]

marcum also has had a sucessful outing in minors if i am correct. jays might be good.

[ryanXL977]

olson is god awful people, dont sit here and say otherwise. he is worthless. as long as marcum can go 5+ i dont see anything wrong with backing a dog with a better bullpen vs an Awful pitcher

[freeVICK]

sharps all over baltimore.

[max_asdf]

olsen will turn it around at some point
might just be this game.

O's just seem to be better than the Jays. Jays stole a few games from the o's just before the allstar break at home coming from behind rallying in 9th, when they were dominated. o's paying them back now.

[ryanXL977]

olson is not good, nor he has ever shown the ability to be good
why am i going to lay on olson? if balti is better than tor, then fine, i will do balti
but i would rather do them tmrw with guthrie

[max_asdf]

want to back the jays.

have this feeling telling me no. time to back off this game i guess

[Wilforth]

olsen will turn it around at some point
might just be this game.

O's just seem to be better than the Jays. Jays stole a few games from the o's just before the allstar break at home coming from behind rallying in 9th, when they were dominated. o's paying them back now.

You said it all. Plus the Jays have a way of losing road games when expected to win.

[freeVICK]

if it looks to good to be true....

[B1GER1C828]

tor 7 units ship ittt

[MonkeyF0cker]

Gotta love the Jays in this one...

[ryanXL977]

i know baltys hitting is better
and i know marcum wont go more than 5
but they are a dog, and olson is worse than me
why not

[MonkeyF0cker]

The thing is, even if Marcum only goes 4, the Jays still have the edge in the pen. Olson has been torched by the Jays in the past. There's no reason to think that doesn't happen again tonight.

[ryanXL977]

those are my thoughts
i just thinkg the top of the balty lineup is good, very very good
other than that, i like tor a lot

[max_asdf]

i would really wait for the lineups to come out before i decide anything on this game.
real toss up even though this game may not end up being close at all for any side

[ryanXL977]

who do you think is going to sit out today?

[max_asdf]

no idea. cito has wierd lineups from time to time. to give everyone playing time.
is mench, wilkerson playing?

watch mcdonald, eckstien, scutaro and inglett all be in today.... i would not back the jays if thats the case.

pretty sure inglett and scutaro will be in though.

overbay batting clean up again? ewww


zaun or barajas?

maybe some site has the probable lineup listed, but i really havent checked into news for this game today as im still @ office

[ryanXL977]

mench would play is my guess, as is barajas.
overbay cleanup eww is right!
i will wait on that lineup
to be honest, i dont place ANY bets before i see lineups
ever

[max_asdf]

mench sucks

[ryanXL977]

he is good vs lefties i think
is he on the roster?

[max_asdf]

i assume so,
he played like 2 days ago

[max_asdf]

Baltimore’s Nick Markakis has enjoyed facing Marcum, going 7-for-15 with four homers.

[ryanXL977]

thats good to hear but there are ways to pitch around him

[EaglesPhan36]

Am I simple to think the OVER is pretty solid at 9 considering 8 of their 9 meetings have gone OVER? And Olson's starts haven't been under 9 in like two months almost?

[MonkeyF0cker]

I think if you like the over, you have to like the Jays side. That's why I'm on the Jays at +105...

[Sactown]

Am I simple to think the OVER is pretty solid at 9 considering 8 of their 9 meetings have gone OVER? And Olson's starts haven't been under 9 in like two months almost?

I agree Eaglesphan...I dont see the Balt Overs ending anytime soon.

GL

[ryanXL977]

so much for pitching around markakis

[sickler]

Not a good outing for Marcum.

How about the jays though. Eight baserunners through four innings and only one run to show for it.