Fantasy Bases Pending Trades

Willie Bee · 04-13-06, 08:41 AM

One more official reject of the Zambrano-Wickman trade, plus a PM to me this morning voting NO. That PM must be followed up through the Yahoo! site before it's an official reject vote.

Alamorich · 04-13-06, 04:44 PM

Don't see why anybody would object to that trade...unless their just doing it out of spite.

Willie Bee · 04-18-06, 09:01 AM

Date: April 18
The Jackass send SP A.Pettitte to Presley's Killahs for RP T.Worrell

So far, three (3) reject votes.

EDIT: Make that four (4) rejects.

Willie Bee · 04-18-06, 04:03 PM

Trade rejected, 5 no votes...

The Pettitte-Worrell trade has received five (5) reject votes and has been disallowed.

The five teams to vote no: The Bad News Bums, Portland Hamsters, Vegas Knights, Texas FOG and Birds on the Bat.

presley177 · 04-18-06, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

The Pettitte-Worrell trade has received five (5) reject votes and has been disallowed.

The five teams to vote no: The Bad News Bums, Portland Hamsters, Vegas Knights, Texas FOG and Birds on the Bat.

i don't think it's really necessary to post the teams who reject. I trust no 1 team is protesting 5 times : )

Willie Bee · 04-19-06, 09:42 AM

Date: April 18 (trade accepted by both teams, 4:00 p.m.)
The Jackass send SS D.Jeter to Presley's Killahs for RP T.Worrell, RP D.Weathers and 2B R.Weeks.

RickySteve · 04-19-06, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Date: April 18 (trade accepted by both teams, 4:00 p.m.)
The Jackass send SS D.Jeter to Presley's Killahs for RP T.Worrell, RP D.Weathers and 2B R.Weeks.

This trade is just as bad as the Pettite deal.

It drastically improves Presley but doesn't help Jackass much at all, especially long term.

Presley has 9 relievers, so they have no value to him. Worrell is on borrowed time as closer and Weathers is garbage. For Jackass, Weeks is only average, and not much of an upgrade over Castillo/Kennedy. Jeter is a top 3 SS, a position where Presley is currently starting the worst in the league, Mark Ellis.

This trade is an average 2B and two poor relievers who don't improve one club for a top notch SS that dramatically helps another.

moses millsap · 04-19-06, 03:29 PM

One of these lopsided deals will go through. It's a joke. I'm going to start selling my team to the owners I like as well.

presley177 · 04-19-06, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by RickySteve

This trade is just as bad as the Pettite deal.

It drastically improves Presley but doesn't help Jackass much at all, especially long term.

Presley has 9 relievers, so they have no value to him. Worrell is on borrowed time as closer and Weathers is garbage. For Jackass, Weeks is only average, and not much of an upgrade over Castillo/Kennedy. Jeter is a top 3 SS, a position where Presley is currently starting the worst in the league, Mark Ellis.

This trade is an average 2B and two poor relievers who don't improve one club for a top notch SS that dramatically helps another.

I even spoke out against the Pettite deal but I won't on this one... there's absolutely no evidence or any sign or any quote or anything that says Benitez gets the job when he comes off the disabled list. *****Also if he somehow did...I wouldn't mind ---trading Benitez to Jackass-- for whatever player he wants(as long as Jeter stays healthy and wouldn't be currently injured)...Willie Bee could make sure I'd follow through...but atleast Worrell or Benitez will be the closer and I'm saying right now..whoever it is I'll give them to Jackass for compensation.

David Weathers *is* the Reds closer, has 3 saves and is not in danger at all of losing his role. Last year he took over the job in the 2nd half and saved 15 games while having a decent era under 4. I'd literally be shocked if he didn't *atleast* get 25 for the season.

Rickie Weeks...I know this won't be a popular opinion but Weeks has a very solid chance of matching Jeter in homeruns, steals and possibly rbis. Jackass doesn't need a shortstop because he has Reyes...but could use an upgrade at 2nd. He only has one closer..but adding 2 more will almost assure him of winning the saves category close to 70% of the time or better now.

Like you said I'm trading from a strength to improve a weakness..and I am. I've got another option at 2nd for the future and Mark Ellis has been thus far dead weight. Both teams are trying to cover each's weaknesses and I think that's what a fair trade is supposed to be.

presley177 · 04-19-06, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by OWNED

One of these lopsided deals will go through. It's a joke. I'm going to start selling my team to the owners I like as well.

go for it. your team will more than likely finish last anyway. after I'm done with you...

Willie Bee · 04-19-06, 04:03 PM

Two reject votes so far...

I believe there are several perceptions regarding this trade going on...

a) People probably look at the trade from the MLB angle. If Jeter was being traded for Weeks, Worrell and Weathers, would that be a good trade for both clubs? Not saying that it's right to look at it from that angle, just speculating that it might be how some people are looking at it.

b) Whether it's a real MLB trade or a fantasy trade, when a player of Jeter's stature gets dealt, people expect a player of equal stature to be coming in return. Or, if you deal an 'A+' player, you should get an 'A-' and a 'B' in return.

c) It's the third trade attempt in about a week between the same two teams. That will always cause eyebrows to be raised.

RickySteve · 04-19-06, 05:59 PM

The Killahs could trade him four relievers & Weeks and it would still be a terrible fantasy baseball deal. Presley is getting a huge upgrade at his weakest position while Jackass is making slight improvement in one category, which he'll still be weak in anyway.
Jackass has already given away a top 20 pitcher and top 20 outfielder for free and now he's attempting his third lop-sided trade. Either he's cheating or he's just a moron. Either way it disturbs the competitive balance of the league and absolutely should not be allowed. He's ruining this league, and that's fuucking unacceptable with $500 on the line.

Originally posted by presley177

I even spoke out against the Pettite deal but I won't on this one... there's absolutely no evidence or any sign or any quote or anything that says Benitez gets the job when he comes off the disabled list. *****Also if he somehow did...I wouldn't mind ---trading Benitez to Jackass-- for whatever player he wants(as long as Jeter stays healthy and wouldn't be currently injured)...Willie Bee could make sure I'd follow through...but atleast Worrell or Benitez will be the closer and I'm saying right now..whoever it is I'll give them to Jackass for compensation.

David Weathers *is* the Reds closer, has 3 saves and is not in danger at all of losing his role. Last year he took over the job in the 2nd half and saved 15 games while having a decent era under 4. I'd literally be shocked if he didn't *atleast* get 25 for the season.

Rickie Weeks...I know this won't be a popular opinion but Weeks has a very solid chance of matching Jeter in homeruns, steals and possibly rbis. Jackass doesn't need a shortstop because he has Reyes...but could use an upgrade at 2nd. He only has one closer..but adding 2 more will almost assure him of winning the saves category close to 70% of the time or better now.

Like you said I'm trading from a strength to improve a weakness..and I am. I've got another option at 2nd for the future and Mark Ellis has been thus far dead weight. Both teams are trying to cover each's weaknesses and I think that's what a fair trade is supposed to be.

Alamorich · 04-19-06, 07:31 PM

Dear Ricky

Please stop sending me trade offers. I am getting tired of rejecting them. No you cannot have Lance Berkman for two dudes and you cannot have Berkman and Reyes for two other dudes and a concession stand guy. I hope you picked up Bonderman and Floyd. Consider them my gift to you.

Dear Owned

I offered you Jeter but you have nobody on your team. How you managed to go through the draft and pick nobody is real accomplishment. We tried to work something out for Pettite or Jeter but you would have needed to do a 3 way deal but with that bunch of no names on your roster guess you couldn't get it done.

Dear Presley

You are a wise and astute owner who understands what both owners are trying to accomplish. You understand that this trade and the one we did before improves both teams and makes the league more competitive. Having the closers of three teams (Worrell will not lose his job to Benitez) make me competitive in a catagory where I was defenseless. You realize that I have quietly assemble a fine young pitching staff and that I still have two proven quality starters in Pettite and Sabathia that Zambrano will not be missed. You also see that I had two quality SS and that I can't play them both every day without sacrificing a slot where I would be able to put a power hitter.

Dear Commisioner

Thank you for trying to keep the owners in line. Personal attacks and foul language have no place among gentelman. I know this is a work in progress but I am confident you will prevail.

Alamorich · 04-19-06, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

I believe there are several perceptions regarding this trade going on...

a) People probably look at the trade from the MLB angle. If Jeter was being traded for Weeks, Worrell and Weathers, would that be a good trade for both clubs? Not saying that it's right to look at it from that angle, just speculating that it might be how some people are looking at it.

b) Whether it's a real MLB trade or a fantasy trade, when a player of Jeter's stature gets dealt, people expect a player of equal stature to be coming in return. Or, if you deal an 'A+' player, you should get an 'A-' and a 'B' in return.

c) It's the third trade attempt in about a week between the same two teams. That will always cause eyebrows to be raised.

The first two are good observations. As for the third I can tell you that I have rejected just as many offers as I have proposed. I posted that Jeter and Pettite were available and recieved several trade proposals which I either ignored or rejected. I'm trying not to get paranoid but interesting to note that the teams blocking my trades also send me offers.

RickySteve · 04-22-06, 02:48 AM

Good thing you idiots let that Jeter deal go through. This league's a fuucking joke.

Alamorich · 04-22-06, 07:14 PM

Anybody but Ricky want this guy?

M. Maroth 3-0 ERA 0.49 WHIP 1.15.

Would need somebody better that B. Lidge and his 3.72 ERA.

If we ever got so far as making a trade remember that if you hit the ACCEPT button it means you want to make the trade. If you hit REJECT button it means you do not want it. I know it would take an IDIOT to confuse the two but just want to be helpfull.

Alamorich · 04-22-06, 07:33 PM

Just Kidding! Maroth not for sale (anymore).

moses millsap · 04-22-06, 11:00 PM

Benitez is the SF closer now that he's off the DL.

Illusion · 04-22-06, 11:33 PM

Thanks for the heads up OWNED.

Willie Bee · 04-24-06, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by RickySteve

Good thing you idiots let that Jeter deal go through. This league's a fuucking joke.

So democracy is a joke to you, huh?

Just two owners out of 10 thought it was a lopsided or fishy trade, and that makes the entire league an effin' joke?

Thanks for your opinion, but I disagree.

Alamorich · 04-24-06, 11:46 AM

On a positive note I am having fun and appreciate SBR and all who put this thing together.

onlooker · 04-24-06, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

So democracy is a joke to you, huh?

Just two owners out of 10 thought it was a lopsided or fishy trade, and that makes the entire league an effin' joke?

Thanks for your opinion, but I disagree.

I was going to, but never got around to it.

Alamorich · 04-29-06, 03:08 PM

Can I please trade Pettite to somebody for somebody that can hit and a box of popcorn? Anybody that wants to have this Yankee hero of yester year make me an offer that the league will accept.

Willie Bee · 07-12-06, 08:03 AM

trade vetoed

The Dodgers (A.Rodriguez) and Bums (for C.Jones, J.Lopez, E.Santana) trade was vetoed this morning. By my count, half of the presently active owners who were not involved in this deal (4 of 8) voted NO.

moses millsap · 07-12-06, 11:17 AM

Which is the other non-active owner you consider besides Presley (I'm under the assumption he is one of them)?

onlooker · 07-16-06, 03:26 AM

Latest trade pending in the SBR league:

Note: This trade will be reflected on the lineup for Wednesday, Jul 19.

Code:

[B][SIZE="3"]GV Dodgers (Players to Trade)[/SIZE][/B]
[B]Batters       H/AB   R HR RBI SB  AVG[/B]
S.Rolen      97/292 61 14  57  5 .332
M.Ordonez   102/330 48 16  63  1 .309
[B]
Pitchers      IP  W  SV  K  ERA  WHIP[/B]
S.McClung   80.2  2   0 38  6.81  1.80
C.James     31.1  3   0 20  2.87  1.12


[B][SIZE="3"]The Bad News Bums (Players to Trade)[/SIZE][/B]
[B]Batters       H/AB   R HR RBI SB  AVG[/B]
M.Thames    62/209  40 17  37  1 .297
C.Jones     89/279  55 13  53  5 .319
Jo.Lopez   100/355  48  9  58  2 .282

[B]Pitchers      IP  W  SV  K  ERA  WHIP[/B]
M.Cain      91.1  6   0 80  5.12  1.39

Alamorich · 07-17-06, 03:10 PM

Hey fellas. Anybody know if there is a problem with Yahoo? I can't make lineup changes. Hope I didn't get kicked out of the league?

Illusion · 07-17-06, 10:16 PM

I will let Willie know you are having trouble.

Alamorich · 07-18-06, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Illusion

I will let Willie know you are having trouble.

Control has been restored. Annoying that I lost a decent pitching performance and a position player that produced sat on the bench. Hope this doesn't happen again.

Willie Bee · 07-18-06, 09:19 AM

Rich, I have not reset controls of your team. A couple of friends in another league have been having problems staying logged in at Yahoo! while they're making lineup changes. One had his issue resolved by using Firefox instead of IE. Not sure what your particular issue was, but that might be a possible fix.

Also to let everyone know, I have assumed controls of the Tequila Slammers since I was unable to reach their owner. If and when my Fog playes the Slammers, I'll ask someone else to decide on specific moves for that week.

Alamorich · 07-18-06, 12:06 PM

Thanks for looking into the problem Mr. Commissioner. My morning routine begins with my setting my line-up for that day. I don't know what I would do with myself if that routine was disrupted for a long period of time.

No major harm done since yesterday's schedule was on the light side.

Alamorich · 07-18-06, 09:10 PM

Do not know what the problem is but there is a problem. the Statracker does not work anymore and I have to do some micky mousing to set my lineups. I will give it another day or two then I am going to have to throw in the towel.

RickySteve · 07-19-06, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Also to let everyone know, I have assumed controls of the Tequila Slammers since I was unable to reach their owner. If and when my Fog playes the Slammers, I'll ask someone else to decide on specific moves for that week.

And what do you plan to do if Tequila places in the money?

imgv94 · 07-19-06, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Alamorich

Dear Owned:

I offered you Jeter but you have nobody on your team.How you managed to go through the draft and pick nobody is real accomplishment. but with that bunch of no names on your roster guess you couldn't get it done.

Alamo I love you bro but you really put your foot in
your mouth on this one. Owned had by far the best team.

Alamorich · 07-20-06, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Alamo I love you bro but you really put your foot in
your mouth on this one. Owned had by far the best team.

I don't even remember what that squabble was about. I will be better at this fantasy league business next season. I openly admit that I made some dumb moves. If I was the owner I would fire myself.