The system

**eddie0vedder** · 04-21-11, 08:08 PM

bad day at the office tday mate, bad luck. keep up the good work tho, really liking your system

**paul051966** · 04-21-11, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by jorge1

Watching the tb game makes me wanna kick myself in the ass for going against the systyem. System called cws but I filtered tb. Fack!

Other than that I'm pretty pleased so far. The over hit easily in fla and it looks like we are around even flirting w plus money. One that is surprising me is hou.

Whatever. I try not get too attached to one play or the other.

Ill answer all ur questions tomorrow morning when I can. Right now I cannot. Sorry.

But briefly let me say no. The amunts are decide by me. The system doesn't weight one more than the other. Which has been working.

It doesn't work for anything else bec each sport is priced diff and treated differently by books.

No. Both lines were fine and cashed as I expected.

U know what I been running into? The system is intricate enough to pick the plays and alllllls I gotta do is just play all evenly for same amounts yet I keep filtering and bullshittting and keep shooting myself in the foot.

Starting tomorrow ill try to just flat bet all. We will see

Harder than heck to stick 100% to a system. We appreciate your explanations as to why you deviate sometimes, but all the while ensuring the system is clearly defined. Thanks for sharing, and putting in all the work

**kanak_attack** · 04-22-11, 02:04 AM

damn dude i tailed today. thanks though. im stickin with it. everyone has bad days. good luck tomorrow.

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by jorge1

4/21

78760362-14/21/11 12:17am$75.00$87.75 Pending4/21/11 12:35pm Reduced Baseball 951 Arizona Diamondbacks +117* vs Cincinnati Reds (D Hudson - R - Action M Leake - R - Action)

78760362-24/21/11 12:17am$75.00$117.75 Pending4/21/11 1:45pm Reduced Baseball 953 Washington Nationals +157* vs St. Louis Cardinals (T Gorzelanny - L - Action K Lohse - R - Action)

78760362-34/21/11 12:17am$97.50$75.00Pending4/21/11 3:10pm Reduced Baseball 956 Los Angeles Dodgers -130* vs Atlanta Braves (J Jurrjens - R must Start C Kershaw - L must Start)

78760362-44/21/11 12:17am$75.00$90.00Pending4/21/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 957 Houston Astros +120* vs New York Mets (J Happ - L - Action C Capuano - L - Action)

78760362-54/21/11 12:17am$75.00$90.00Pending4/21/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 959 Pittsburgh Pirates +120* vs Florida Marlins (J McDonald - R - Action C Volstad - R - Action)

~~78760362-64/21/11 12:17am$50.00$51.50Pending4/21/11 10:05pm Reduced Baseball 962 San Diego Padres +103* vs Philadelphia Phillies (R Oswalt - R - Action M Latos - R - Action)~~

78760362-74/21/11 12:17am$76.50$75.00Pending4/21/11 6:40pm Reduced Baseball 964 Tampa Bay Rays -102* vs Chicago White Sox (G Floyd - R - Action J Niemann - R - Action)

78760362-84/21/11 12:17am$75.00$93.75Pending4/21/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 965 Minnesota Twins +125* vs Baltimore Orioles (S Baker - R - Action J Guthrie - R - Action)

78760362-94/21/11 12:17am$80.25$75.00Pending4/21/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 967 Cleveland Indians -107* vs Kansas City Royals (J Tomlin - R - Action S O'Sullivan - R - Action)

78760362-104/21/11 12:17am$50.00$76.00Pending4/21/11 10:05pm Reduced Baseball 970 Los Angeles Angels +152* vs Boston Red Sox (J Beckett - R - Action T Chatwood - R - Action)

78760362-114/21/11 12:17am$69.00$50.00Pending4/21/11 10:10pm Reduced Baseball 972 Seattle Mariners -138* vs Oakland Athletics (B McCarthy - R - Action F Hernandez - R - Action)

early bets

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by jorge1

78773742-14/21/11 11:24am$218.75$175.00 Pending4/21/11 1:15pm WTA Tennis 209 A.Radwanska Games Won/K.Barrois Games Won Over 18½ -125*

Originally posted by jorge1

ADDING ADDL JUICE TO my favorite wagers tonight.
78785437-14/21/11 4:15pm$25.00$31.25Pending4/21/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 957 Houston Astros +125* vs New York Mets (J Happ - L - Action C Capuano - L - Action)

78785437-24/21/11 4:15pm$25.00$32.50Pending4/21/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 959 Pittsburgh Pirates +130* vs Florida Marlins (J McDonald - R - Action C Volstad - R - Action)

78785437-34/21/11 4:15pm$131.25$125.00Pending4/21/11 6:40pm MLB Baseball 964 Tampa Bay Rays -105* vs Chicago White Sox (G Floyd - R must Start J Niemann - R must Start)

78785437-44/21/11 4:15pm$27.00$25.00Pending4/21/11 8:10pm MLB Baseball 967 Cleveland Indians -108* vs Kansas City Royals (J Tomlin - R - Action O'Sullivan - R - Action)

Originally posted by jorge1

78786402-14/21/11 4:43pm$300.00$315.00Pending4/21/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 959 Pittsburgh Pirates/Florida Marlins Over 9 +105* (J McDonald - R must Start C Volstad - R must Start)

Originally posted by jorge1

PHI -108 1.5x (this cancels the .5x of SDG wager, with a net return of 1x. IF YOU DIDNT PUT IN THE SDG WAGER, then PLAY PHI 1x ONLY)

rest of plays

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 08:03 AM

recap:

Yesterday was a learning day. Why? because i went against THE SYSTEM in several plays and guess what? backfired...ill draw a comparison in a lil bit, but here are the results as per the plays i played:

4/21 5-7 -.8125x

this doest count the tennis play which put me personally in the plus money for the day

**Titan_12** · 04-22-11, 08:14 AM

We'll get'em today jorge

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 08:20 AM

original plays by ssytem before i started changing shit around yesterda:

sea ml

lad ml

wsh ml

hou ml

ari ml

min ml

pit ml

sdg ml

cws ml

cle ml

bos ml

FLA/PIT OVER 9

wouldve gone 6-6 for the day instead of 5-7...oh well...onto today

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by ttratter

Flat bet is your best opportunity. Don't take this the wrong way, but you said earlier you don't fall in love with one over the other, but yet you up your bets on others Just my 2 cents.

i dont hold on to losses or wins...i dont cry cuz i dropped the firsst two plays of the day...as long as system doestn drop below 40% winning percentage im not worried because with the good prices i usually get on lines, im good!

i meant something else, but thanks for ur 2 cents bud

Originally posted by BiffTFinancial

great work, jorge, and thanks for discussing your methodology. keep choppin wood.

HEY MY MAN!!! how is it???? yeah man, no problem..im an open book. Ill keep choppin...one day at a time...one unit at a time

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by paul051966

Harder than heck to stick 100% to a system. We appreciate your explanations as to why you deviate sometimes, but all the while ensuring the system is clearly defined. Thanks for sharing, and putting in all the work

yeah no problem..it is tough you know? im still learning how to filter it on the run...plus i wanna have some input on the plays besides jsut the system..but the facking system hasnt had a below .500 day yet, in THREE FACKING WEEKS since i been testing and tracking and now playing it...just me with my stupid filters that fack it up at times, like yesterday.

Originally posted by kanak_attack

damn dude i tailed today. thanks though. im stickin with it. everyone has bad days. good luck tomorrow.

DAMM? why DAMM? we lost .81 units! thats not a loss buddy...that doesnt even set me back one day!

keep tailing at your own risk and discretion...BOL

Originally posted by Titan_12

We'll get'em today jorge

yuppppppppp...

Jorge

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by eddie0vedder

bad day at the office tday mate, bad luck. keep up the good work tho, really liking your system

not a bad day..a learning day..bad day is when u lose more than 5 units in one day.

BOL to ya and thanks for stopping by...

**Cranium** · 04-22-11, 08:55 AM

If you don't tweak it, you can't perfect it!

**Hip2Bsq** · 04-22-11, 09:41 AM

Thinking abouy a MM method for the system, since I am not used to so many plays in one day
What if I made a labby line for EACH team?
I think I will try it for a few days.

**incomeraise** · 04-22-11, 10:43 AM

Unfortunately I didnt think the over in the florida game was part of ur system, since it was a toal and not a side, so I dint play it and didn't see the change with philadelphia either...so I ended losingbiger today as I went 3-8

**Hip2Bsq** · 04-22-11, 11:09 AM

Cant wait to see how the system lines up with my card today. I penciled 11 out of 15 sides.

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 11:23 AM

4/22

$55.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 2:20pm MLB Baseball 901 Los Angeles Dodgers -110* vs Chicago Cubs (C Billingsley - R must Start C Coleman - R must Start)

$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 903 Washington Nationals +105* vs Pittsburgh Pirates (L Hernandez - R must Start J Karstens - R must Start)

$54.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 905 Colorado Rockies -108* vs Florida Marlins (J Chacin - R must Start A Sanchez - R must Start)

$50.00$55.00Pending4/22/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 907 Arizona Diamondbacks +110* vs New York Mets (J Saunders - L must Start M Pelfrey - R must Start)

$50.00$60.00Pending4/22/11 8:15pm MLB Baseball 911 Cincinnati Reds +120* vs St. Louis Cardinals (E Volquez - R must Start K McClellan - R must Start)

$65.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:05pm MLB Baseball 913 Philadelphia Phillies -131* vs San Diego Padres (C Hamels - L must Start C Richard - L must Start)

$54.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:15pm MLB Baseball 915 Atlanta Braves -108* vs San Francisco Giants (T Hanson - R must Start M Bumgarner - L must Start)

$50.00$75.50Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 917 Chicago White Sox +151* vs Detroit Tigers (M Buehrle - L must Start J Verlander - R must Start)

$50.00$83.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 920 Baltimore Orioles +166* vs New York Yankees (C Sabathia - L must Start B Bergesen - R must Start)

$53.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 921 Tampa Bay Rays -107* vs Toronto Blue Jays (J Hellicks - R must Start J Reyes - L must Start)

$60.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 8:05pm MLB Baseball 924 Texas Rangers -1 -121* vs Kansas City Royals (J Francis - L must Start D Holland - L must Start)

$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 8:10pm MLB Baseball 925 Cleveland Indians +105* vs Minnesota Twins (F Carmona - R must Start B Duensing - L must Start)

$51.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:05pm MLB Baseball 927 Boston Red Sox -103* vs Los Angeles Angels (J Lester - L must Start D Haren - R must Start)

$50.00$59.00Pending4/22/11 10:10pm MLB Baseball 929 Oakland Athletics +118* vs Seattle Mariners (T Ross - R must Start M Pineda - R must Start)

$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 2:20pm MLB Baseball 941 Away Runs Today +105* vs Home Runs Today (Fixed Price)

$50.00$55.00Pending4/22/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 910 Milwaukee Brewers -1½ +110* vs Houston Astros (N Figueroa - R must Start Y Gallardo - R must Start)

$340.0$357.0Pending4/22/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 910 Milwaukee Brewers -1½ +105* vs Houston Astros (N Figueroa - R must Start Y Gallardo - R must Start)

*****ADDED MIL RL 3.4x favorite play of the day folks!************

$52.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 921 Tampa Bay Rays/Toronto Blue Jays Over 9 -105* (J Hellicks - R must Start J Reyes - L must Start)

$50.00$53.50Pending4/22/11 8:05pm Reduced Baseball 923 Kansas City Royals/Texas Rangers Over 9 +107* (J Francis - L must Start D Holland - L must Start)

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 11:32 AM

ANY BASEBALL PLAYS I POST ARE FOR THE SYSTEM...the OVER 9 yesterday was a system play...

but that is a diff system that i run...which is supported by the original ML system.

what the system does is track the opening price ML/RL/TOTALS. There are discrepancies, or delta factors which each line has. Two exact same ML/TOTALS for two different faves, will have two completely different RL lines.why? well, thats what ive been decoding.

On top of that i was told a theory on TT vs GAME Totals. What i do is that i play those overs when appropriate, btu make sure that it also makes sense with my ML system of lines...meaning, if i have a line that tells me, or is translated into saying that the game is expected to be a close game, where a dog will have a good chance of winning, then i dont play the over. but if the game has certain characteristics, along with the whole TT and GAME TOTAL thing i just mentioned, then its a play...i dont expect more than 1 or 2 totals played per day...its rare they happen.

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Cranium

If you don't tweak it, you can't perfect it!

true...been doing so for a year and a half now of coming up with the system...its been good enough to be able to spit out positive number every single day..im the one that screws with the plays..like yesterday.

Jorge

Originally posted by Hip2Bsq

Thinking abouy a MM method for the system, since I am not used to so many plays in one day What if I made a labby line for EACH team? I think I will try it for a few days.

labby? like CHASING? ummmmmm....i dunno man...i wouldnt chase that way...only thing i do here and there is chase the system, as in, regression to mean...like if the system is doing bad early, i know itll have its run later in the evening so i up some plays that i think accordingly...but for now im just flat betting...when has the system hit under .500? so far, never..even yesterday the ACTUAL system went 6-6, but i ****** around changed some plays around and it went 5-7...

what i do for MM is that i play a certain percentage per play of my BR. so today say my BR is 10000 pesos, then i might play 100 per play. then tomorrow it grows to 10050 pesos, then i still play 100 per play...i dont change units till substantial change...

right now im doing 50 per play because i dunno, these series right now been priced funky and system surprised me it didnt do so well yesterday...i think today and tomorrow will be so so days, i jsut hope to be at 50%+...but next series after teh weekend should pick up...its some funky match ups out there, no?

dont bet more than you need to per day...if we ever have a horrible losing day, it should take u further back than the last week's winnings...

for example the last three days, im at around +850 pesos, so thats what i limit my daily BR to..if i lose them all in one day, then im just back to where i was threee or four days ago...no biggie...if today i get 5 or 6 units, then i reset my BR, to around 5 or 6 units until i make another substantial gain..get me?

example -

apr 19 +614
apr 20 +133
apr 21 +93

so right now i allow myself a br of around 850 or so...if i win 4 or 5 units today i pocket the 614 and the 133 from two days ago, and i play with the winnings from today, plus maybe the 93.

backyard math! lol

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 11:42 AM

one thing i been noticing from the system is that its picking lots of road plays...i dont like that its doing so honestly. I do like road plays, but not sooo many of them a day...because the one day that you have all the home teams win, you have a terrible day...so imma look into tweaking it, but ill give it another 3 or 4 days till i do so to see how this series does.

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 12:10 PM

sorry guys, but AWAY runs are not part of the system..i played it because the system called mostly for away teams, plus we have PHI on the road, COL on the ROAD, and CIN on the road...one of those three should blow up to give us something to edge with!

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 02:19 PM

Adding:

Ari-nym over 9 +115 .5x

**Titan_12** · 04-22-11, 03:19 PM

Let's go LAD!

**jolmscheid** · 04-22-11, 03:23 PM

GL Jorge...your first play is already looking nice...

**Titan_12** · 04-22-11, 03:31 PM

Big third inning for the Dodgers!

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 03:50 PM

I love starting the day right! The betting day. That is.

Lad putting it on em boys. Plus our road teams bet lookin tight already!

**Titan_12** · 04-22-11, 03:52 PM

2 run homer! 8-0!

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 05:24 PM

updated:

4/22

$55.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 2:20pm MLB Baseball 901 Los Angeles Dodgers -110* vs Chicago Cubs (C Billingsley - R must Start C Coleman - R must Start)

~~$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 903 Washington Nationals +105* vs Pittsburgh Pirates (L Hernandez - R must Start J Karstens - R must Start)~~

$54.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 905 Colorado Rockies -108* vs Florida Marlins (J Chacin - R must Start A Sanchez - R must Start)

$50.00$55.00Pending4/22/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 907 Arizona Diamondbacks +110* vs New York Mets (J Saunders - L must Start M Pelfrey - R must Start)

~~$50.00$60.00Pending4/22/11 8:15pm MLB Baseball 911 Cincinnati Reds +120* vs St. Louis Cardinals (E Volquez - R must Start K McClellan - R must Start)~~

$65.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:05pm MLB Baseball 913 Philadelphia Phillies -131* vs San Diego Padres (C Hamels - L must Start C Richard - L must Start)

$54.00$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:15pm MLB Baseball 915 Atlanta Braves -108* vs San Francisco Giants (T Hanson - R must Start M Bumgarner - L must Start)

$50.00$75.50Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 917 Chicago White Sox +151* vs Detroit Tigers (M Buehrle - L must Start J Verlander - R must Start)

~~$50.00$83.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 920 Baltimore Orioles +166* vs New York Yankees (C Sabathia - L must Start B Bergesen - R must Start)~~

$53.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 921 Tampa Bay Rays -107* vs Toronto Blue Jays (J Hellicks - R must Start J Reyes - L must Start)

$60.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 8:05pm MLB Baseball 924 Texas Rangers -1 -121* vs Kansas City Royals (J Francis - L must Start D Holland - L must Start)

~~$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 8:10pm MLB Baseball 925 Cleveland Indians +105* vs Minnesota Twins (F Carmona - R must Start B Duensing - L must Start)~~

$51.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 10:05pm MLB Baseball 927 Boston Red Sox -103* vs Los Angeles Angels (J Lester - L must Start D Haren - R must Start)

$50.00$59.00Pending4/22/11 10:10pm MLB Baseball 929 Oakland Athletics +118* vs Seattle Mariners (T Ross - R must Start M Pineda - R must Start)

~~$50.00$52.50Pending4/22/11 2:20pm MLB Baseball 941 Away Runs Today +105* vs Home Runs Today (Fixed Price)~~

$50.00$55.00Pending4/22/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 910 Milwaukee Brewers -1½ +110* vs Houston Astros (N Figueroa - R must Start Y Gallardo - R must Start)

$340.0$357.0Pending4/22/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 910 Milwaukee Brewers -1½ +105* vs Houston Astros (N Figueroa - R must Start Y Gallardo - R must Start)

*****ADDED MIL RL 3.4x favorite play of the day folks!************

$52.50$50.00Pending4/22/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 921 Tampa Bay Rays/Toronto Blue Jays Over 9 -105* (J Hellicks - R must Start J Reyes - L must Start)

$50.00$53.50Pending4/22/11 8:05pm Reduced Baseball 923 Kansas City Royals/Texas Rangers Over 9 +107* (J Francis - L must Start D Holland - L must Start)

Ari-nym over 9 +115 1.5x

~~min/cle under 7 +110 .5x~~

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 05:57 PM

shitz and gigglez:

NY Nicks 1st 6min -1/2 -110 2.5x

Nicks come out hot! but lose the game IMO...i dunno..just a fun play!

BOS +142 1x

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 06:06 PM

BOS is 33-0 when they are 2-0 in a playoff series...but they are 8-17 all time in playoffs in Madison Sqr Garden...fack it...i want BOS to win this B regardless...

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 06:06 PM

next thing u know, im getting sucked off on a jetski!!!!

**Titan_12** · 04-22-11, 06:16 PM

1-0 so far, good $hit!

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 06:20 PM

fack u knicks hopefully bos wins entire game

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 06:44 PM

BOSTON CELTICS 2nd QT +2.5 -105 2x

**jorge1** · 04-22-11, 06:45 PM

you know what happened...rookie mistake...i facking meant to bet NY -2.5 and somehow i hit BOS +2.5...well, lets see if my LACK of knowledge of NBA PAYS OFF!

LMAO..im jsut viewer betting..jajajaj, jsut having fun watching this game!

**eddie0vedder** · 04-22-11, 07:09 PM

Hey Jorge, do you think it would be more profitable to play all the system plays at -1? Not many 1 run winners