The system

[jorge1]

I'm not offended. The totals are a diff system which I'm experimenting.

If u wanna fade be my guest. Not upset bout it at all. One of us will be happier the end of the night

Gpod luck!

Jorge

[eddie0vedder]

hey, this site is all about money and i think his totals are 2- 9 in the last 2 days.

yeh but before that totals were killing. One day was 8 of 8. If you want to have a valid opinion try reading more than a page

[dogs1972]

yeh but before that totals were killing. One day was 8 of 8. If you want to have a valid opinion try reading more than a page

Google 'trend' little girl. Oh remember back when he went 8-0!?!??? Dont fade! Dude please.

[jolmscheid]

Go get 'em tonight Jorge....just keep truckin' along

[blackeyeshamus]

playing cubs, indians, and rangers @ 10pm
good luck, my brother! I am right behind you.

[dogs1972]

I'm not offended. The totals are a diff system which I'm experimenting.

If u wanna fade be my guest. Not upset bout it at all. One of us will be happier the end of the night

Gpod luck!

Jorge

I appreciate your hard work, i'm sure it takes plenty of it to get all these picks out. I'm here to win just like everyone else. However, I dont understand why you add your experimental sides in when they win (post 575) and dont add them in when they lose, last few days. Adding up my units won and lost and they dont add up to the same as yours and thats the reason why. I'm not saying you're not appreciated, i'm just saying it takes away from your credibility. They day alone was 4 units won on sides, but not included are the 7 lost in the last couple days. I dont know what the real record is.

[cardsfan]

I appreciate your hard work, i'm sure it takes plenty of it to get all these picks out. I'm here to win just like everyone else. However, I dont understand why you add your experimental sides in when they win (post 575) and dont add them in when they lose, last few days. Adding up my units won and lost and they dont add up to the same as yours and thats the reason why. I'm not saying you're not appreciated, i'm just saying it takes away from your credibility. They day alone was 4 units won on sides, but not included are the 7 lost in the last couple days. I dont know what the real record is.

Gotta love these douchebags who try and bring negativity into every thread they post in. If you don't like the system, then don't follow it, but calling Jorge's credibility into question is absurd.

[dogs1972]

Gotta love these douchebags who try and bring negativity into every thread they post in. If you don't like the system, then don't follow it, but calling Jorge's credibility into question is absurd.

And right on time, another ghost to defend. It's a simple question, did he count the side plays when they won and exclude them when they lost? If people are going to tail, they need to know what the legit record it. so stop sucking cok and look at some fact.

[jorge1]

Dogs1972. I understand where u r coming from. Let me clariffy a few things so that i don't lose credibility.

First. My math isn't always perfect as far as units won or lost. Lots of times I post things on the run etc and add quickly. Later I sit down and do the updates and those are true numbers.

Second. I had been counting every play. Sides rls and totals all in one big record. That is because usually I was doing only one total if any a day. So I didn't wanna keep all these different couunts.

But now I decided to really get going with this other system for totals so I decided to count it separately because in all reality. Its a whoooooleeee other theory. I don't want my totals system hitting maybe 51 percent or something to drag down my percentage for true system plays.

Third. I did have big units lost because of a live bet on philly. Around 17 units to be exact. But I hardly find a live play a system play.

I thank you for your questioning of integrity because that is the only way to keep order and appropriately filter good info from bad on this site just like in any other forum.

That being said I must say I hope u don't say u question my integrity. I say that because I've been crystal clear from the beginning that this is just me messing around. The posts I mean. Its not like a record I keep to a tee because of one simple truth. I don't get paid for this. I post plays to help others. To brag. To try crap out. To make friends. Etc.


Hoooooweeeeverrrrr. I am seeing a bigger following than ever before so I do owe it to those following this thread to have a true count of actual system plays in order to appropriately make ur decision whether to continue to follow them or not.

Tomorrow morning ill go through all the plays and have a big post on the record. This will include the following in order to set records straight.

All system plays to date
All system plays posted
Plays I filtered or faded against the system
A different totals system
A comparison of system plays posted if all were played at 1 unit flat betting

One thing I must note is that these records will not reflect other sports or any props or live betting. Such as the philly play.

Thanks for u guys patience and hope those records help. I think u guys will find that I. Being human. Filter the system anf fack shat up. I also record things on this thread half azz but once I clean up the record ull see the record is actually better than what I show.

I don't post messed up records on purpose. Most of the times I just count stuff in my head and just add it up and post and talk trash. But if u want georginator type records to the tee you got em.

Jorge

[jorge1]

And one more thing. I never excluded a play or units which lost. Only thing in bases excluded in this thread was the live bet done on sunday nuight.

This was done for a reason. How could I qualofy a live bet as a system bet. That was just a personal bet. Borderline a prop. So this whther winner or loser could not possibly do well for system record. Why? Because it would throw off the record too much. Positively or negatively.

Tomorrow morning ill go through all records and we will see what numbers show so far last month.

But no. I never excluded a loss. Ever. Not on purpose anyways. Any plays not counted I have a reason for. Such as plays which I add more money on. Etc.

But I even count a ml and a rl as a separate bet. Win or lose.

[jorge1]

And I've never had experimental sides btw. I've had experimental totals! Its a whole other system.

I explained why I stopped adding totals to the record. Either way. I know so many posts get lost in the traffic here. But most of the time I explain my thoughts. Actually its something I do all the time. Some might say I share my thoughts a lil bit toooo much

[kanak_attack]

Yeah bro. Perfect.

Alright brah. I got you everyday on those. Good luck tomorrow.

[Titan_12]

Best of luck today Jorge!

[dogs1972]

And I've never had experimental sides btw. I've had experimental totals! Its a whole other system.

I explained why I stopped adding totals to the record. Either way. I know so many posts get lost in the traffic here. But most of the time I explain my thoughts. Actually its something I do all the time. Some might say I share my thoughts a lil bit toooo much

Good man. Appreciate the work and effort.

[sitgo]

Good luck with your picks.

[Enkhbat]

what is the money line plays jorge?

[jorge1]

5/3 -
houston astros 5/3/2011 7:10 pm - (est) money line +164 for game j happ - l - action***m leake - r - action risking 100.00 to win 164.00 usd

milwaukee brewers 5/3/2011 7:10 pm - (est) money line +141 for game m estrada - r - action***t hanson - r - action risking 100.00 to win 141.00 usd

san francisco giants 5/3/2011 7:10 pm - (est) money line +123 for game r vogelsong - r - action***r dickey - r - action risking 100.00 to win 123.00 usd

Florida marlins 5/3/2011 8:15 pm - (est) money line +128 for game a sanchez - r - action***k mcclellan - r - action risking 100.00 to win 128.00 usd

Colorado rockies 5/3/2011 9:40 pm - (est) money line -125 for game j de la rosa - l - action***j saunders - l - action risking 125.00 to win 100.00 usd

chicago cubs 5/3/2011 10:10 pm - (est) money line +146 for game r dempster - r - action***c billingsley - r - action risking 100.00 to win 146.00 usd

Los angeles angels 5/3/2011 7:05 pm - (est) money line +142 for game d haren - r - action***j lester - l - action risking 100.00 to win 142.00 usd

Chicago white sox 5/3/2011 8:10 pm - (est) money line -124 for game f liriano - l must start***e jackson - r must start risking 124.00 to win 100.00 usd

kansas city royals 5/3/2011 8:10 pm - (est) money line -117 for game b bergesen - r - action***j francis - l - action risking 117.00 to win 100.00 usd

cleveland indians 5/3/2011 10:05 pm - (est) money line +103 for game f carmona - r - action***t ross - r - action risking 100.00 to win 103.00 usd

Texas rangers 5/3/2011 10:10 pm - (est) money line -128 for game a ogando - r - action***e bedard - l - action risking 128.00 to win 100.00 usd

fade em bud...i take criticism just fine when its true...totals last two days have been no good:
79642124-15/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$31.25 pending5/3/11 7:10pm mlb baseball 953 houston astros/cincinnati reds over 9 +125* (j happ - l must start m leake - r must start)

79642124-25/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$30.00 pending5/3/11 7:10pm mlb baseball 955 milwaukee brewers/atlanta braves under 7 +120* (m estrada - r must start t hanson - r must start)

79642124-35/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$30.00 pending5/3/11 7:10pm mlb baseball 957 san francisco giants/new york mets under 7 +120* (r vogelsong - r must start r dickey - r must start)

79642124-45/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$29.00 pending5/3/11 10:05pm mlb baseball 963 pittsburgh pirates/san diego padres under 6 +116* (j karstens - r must start m latos - r must start)

79642124-55/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$27.50 pending5/3/11 7:05pm mlb baseball 969 new york yankees/detroit tigers under 8 +110* (c sabathia - l must start b penny - r must start)

79642124-65/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$33.75 pending5/3/11 10:05pm mlb baseball 977 cleveland indians/oakland athletics under 7 +135* (f carmona - r must start t ross - r must start)

79642124-75/3/11 1:50pm$25.00$26.25 pending5/3/11 7:05pm reduced baseball 971 los angeles angels/boston red sox under 7 +105* (d haren - r must start j lester - l must start)

results:

5-5 +.59x

totals:

3-3 +.175x

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[jorge1]

This is a post to clean up and do the status report

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[jolmscheid]

You are legit Jorge....you are even putting up the results for the haters...

[Sbot420]

Fuk im so hung over. Jorge what up...Whats good Whats the card lookin like today

[eddie0vedder]

what time you thinking of posting plays jorge, i gotta hit the hey soon

[terrortwylight]

what you got jorge? any 5/4/11 plays? anxiously awaiting the card!

[eddie0vedder]

oh well bed time, ill jump on the late games. Bol today guys

[terrortwylight]

sorry vedder. just wake up in 5 or 6 hours and get the late ones.

[jorge1]

PLEASE READ:

FOR THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING AFTER SEEING THE RESULTS OF THE FIRST FEW WEEKS OF PLAYS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY PAST DISCREPANCIES. I DO THE POSTS IN A VERY LAID BACK FASHION, SO A LOT OF TIMES I EITHER MISCOUNT GAMES, OR MISCOUNT UNITS, BUT I ASSURE YOU, IVE NEVER DONE IT ON PURPOSE, OR IN MY FAVOR.

IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE REPORT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING:

THE SYSTEM PICKS SIDES. NOT RUNLINES, NOT TOTALS, NOT PROPS, NOT LIVE BETS, NOT NBA, OR SOCCER, OR ANY OTHER SPORT. JUST BASEBALL MONEYLINE SIDES.

RUNLINES ARE PICKED AS PER MY DECISION AND HAVE BEEN PICKED DUE TO PRICING. THE SYSTEM JUST PICKS A SIDE AND I AS THE MODERATOR FILTER OUT PLAYS WHICH ARE TOO EXPENSIVE AND MARGIN OF EDGE IS LOST (-140 OR WORSE).

TOTALS ARE A DIFFERENT SIMPLISTIC SYSTEM WHICH I HAVE BEEN TRYING OUT THIS SEASON.

IN THIS REPORT, WHICH I JUST TOOK A FEW HOURS TO GO BACK AND PUT TOGETHER I AM BREAKING DOWN THE RESULTS THE FOLLOWING WAY:

SYSTEM ML PLAYS
FILTERED RL PLAYS
CONTRA-SYSTEM PLAYS
TOTALS

I AM BREAKING THESE CATEGORIES DOWN IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS: POSTED RESULTS, THEORETICAL FLAT BETTING RESULTS (1 UNIT EACH). THIS SERVES AS A WAY TO COMPARE IF MY MODERATOR SKILLS ARE HINDERING THE SYSTEM.

ACTUAL POSTED RESULTS:

ML RESULTS PER DATE:
14) 7-2, +6.21
15) 8-2, +3.77
16) NO PLAYS
17) NO PLAYS
18) 7-2, +2.67
19) 9-2, 6.58
20) 10-5, 2.58
21) 3-5, -2.14
22) 4-5, .51
23) 9-2, 7.82
24) 8-2, 2.85
25) 4-3, 1.38
26) 3-11, -8.52
27) 6-3, 4.03
28) 2-7, -5.80
29) 9-5, 3.81
30) 5-6, .02
1) 8-6, -3.83
2) 3-5, -.89
3) 5-5, .59
overall: 110-78 (58.51%) +21.64x

RL RESULTS PER DATE:
14) 1-0, +1.05
15) 1-2, -.27
16) NO PLAYS
17) NO PLAYS
18) NO PLAYS
19) 1-1, .15
20) 0-2, -2.10
21) NO PLAYS
22) 2-0, 4.62
23) NO PLAYS
24) NO PLAYS
25) 0-2, -1.50
26) 0-1, -1.00
27) 0-1, -1.00
28) 3-1, 2.55
29) NO PLAYS
30) 1-1, -.57
1) 1-1, -4.50
2) NO PLAYS
3) NO PLAYS
overall: 10-12 (45.45%) -2.57x

CONTRA SYSTEM PLAYS PER DATE:
14) NO PLAYS
15) 0-1, -.50
16) NO PLAYS
17) NO PLAYS
18) NO PLAYS
19) NO PLAYS
20) NO PLAYS
21) 1-2, -1.58
22) NO PLAYS
23) 0-1, -1.10
24) NO PLAYS
25) 0-1, -1.27
26) NO PLAYS
27) 0-1, -1.16
28) NO PLAYS
29) NO PLAYS
30) NO PLAYS
1) NO PLAYS
2) NO PLAYS
3) NO PLAYS
overall: 2-6 (25.00%) -5.61x

TOTALS SYSTEM PLAYS PER DATE:
14) NO PLAYS
15) NO PLAYS
16) NO PLAYS
17) NO PLAYS
18) NO PLAYS
19) NO PLAYS
20) NO PLAYS
21) 1-0, 3.15
22) 2-1, -.47
23) NO PLAYS
24) NO PLAYS
25) 1-0, 1.00
26) 3-0, 4.80
27) NO PLAYS
28) 1-1, -1.00
29) 0-1, -1.00
30) 5-1, 5.14
1) 2-5, -1.36
2) 0-3, -.75
3) 3-3, .17
overall: 18-15 (54.54%) +9.68X

COMPARISON OF ACTUAL VS THEORETICAL FLAT BETTING AT ONE UNIT EACH:

ACTUAL VS FLAT BETTING
ML: +21.64x VS. +44.82x
RL: -2.57x VS. -0.55x
CON: -5.61X VS. -2.05x
TOT: +9.68X VS. +4.07x

CONCLUSION:

RL wagers are not cutting it...alot of them have won the ml side, but not the RL doesnt. so might try doing -1 lines when a rl is appropriate.

system is best to jsut flat bet. it would be up 44.82 units instead of 21.64.

system is best to not fade. the system would be up 2.05 additional units if i wouldnt fade it and i would flat bet...so the system, at flat betting of 1 unit would be up 46.87x.

totals system is good as well..has ups and downs so will continue to track accordingly.


FINAL WORD:

since i cleaned up and showed what system record is this is the official record now:

SYSTEM RECORDS:
ML: 110-78 (58.51%) +21.64x
RL: 10-12 (45.45%) -2.57x
FADE: 2-6 (25.00%) -5.61x
TOT: 18-15 (54.54%) +9.68X

[jorge1]

No more fading system

[jorge1]

5/4

79705445-15/4/11 1:54pm$139.00$100.00
Pending5/4/11 7:10pm MLB Baseball 911 San Francisco Giants -139* vs New York Mets (T Lincecum - R must Start C Capuano - L must Start)

79705445-25/4/11 1:54pm$100.00$110.00
Pending5/4/11 6:40pm MLB Baseball 919 Toronto Blue Jays +110* vs Tampa Bay Rays (B Morrow - R must Start J Niemann - R must Start)

79705445-35/4/11 1:54pm$100.00$163.00
Pending5/4/11 7:05pm MLB Baseball 923 Los Angeles Angels +163* vs Boston Red Sox (E Santana - R must Start J Beckett - R must Start)

79705445-45/4/11 1:54pm$109.00$100.00
Pending5/4/11 8:10pm MLB Baseball 925 Baltimore Orioles -109* vs Kansas City Royals (J Arrieta - R must Start K Davies - R must Start)

79705445-55/4/11 1:54pm$100.00$158.00
Pending5/4/11 4:05pm MLB Baseball 931 Milwaukee Brewers +158* vs Atlanta Braves (M Estrada - R must Start T Hanson - R must Start)

79684760-15/4/11 12:19am$100.00$110.00
Pending5/4/11 3:10pm Reduced Baseball 903 Chicago Cubs +110* vs Los Angeles Dodgers (C Zambrano - R - Action T Lilly - L - Action)

79684760-25/4/11 12:19am$100.00$133.00
Pending5/4/11 6:35pm Reduced Baseball 905 Pittsburgh Pirates +133* vs San Diego Padres (K Correia - R - Action C Richard - L - Action)

79684760-35/4/11 12:19am$100.00$144.00
Pending5/4/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 907 Washington Nationals +144* vs Philadelphia Phillies (J Marquis - R - Action V Worley - R - Action)

79684760-45/4/11 12:19am$100.00$128.00
Pending5/4/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 909 Milwaukee Brewers +128* vs Atlanta Braves (Z Greinke - R - Action T Hudson - R - Action)

79684760-55/4/11 12:19am$127.00$100.00
Pending5/4/11 9:40pm Reduced Baseball 915 Colorado Rockies -127* vs Arizona Diamondbacks (J Chacin - R - Action B Enright - R - Action)

79684760-65/4/11 12:19am$100.00$161.00
Pending5/4/11 2:10pm Reduced Baseball 917 Minnesota Twins +161* vs Chicago White Sox (N Blackburn - R - Action J Danks - L - Action)

79684760-75/4/11 12:19am$112.00$100.00
Pending5/4/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 922 Detroit Tigers -112* vs New York Yankees (F Garcia - R - Action M Scherzer - R - Action)

79684760-85/4/11 12:19am$100.00$138.00
Pending5/4/11 10:05pm Reduced Baseball 927 Cleveland Indians +138* vs Oakland Athletics (J Tomlin - R - Action T Cahill - R - Action)

79684760-95/4/11 12:19am$102.00$100.00
Pending5/4/11 10:10pm Reduced Baseball 929 Texas Rangers -102* vs Seattle Mariners (C Wilson - L - Action M Pineda - R - Action)

[upscope]

Sounds & looks pretty clear 2 me...

[feedmecappers]

Like em, let's get this money

[terrortwylight]

thanks jorge!!

[thericker7]

I'm all over it. thanks jorge

[Titan_12]

You da man Jorge! Keep up the great work, and follow the system!

[Sbot420]

Dam J thats ALOT of writing and ALOT of shat period.Throw this dude som points peeps. Wtf happened to all ur pts kneegrow???
Hit me up when u got some time to talk. We need to get that project underway soon

[Sbot420]

STEAM PLAYS FOR TODAY: Use at your own discretion. If you want the weeks earlier results for steam plays IM me

Steam Plays for May, 4th 2011
Time of Play Game Date Game # Team Line
10:51:am -2011-05-04...918 CWS -160
8:56:am -2011-05-04...930 SEA -110
8:14:am -2011-05-04...905 PIT +130