Pirates/Dodgers

element1286 · 04-14-08, 07:27 PM

Everyone seems to on the over. Pirates bats are hot. Duke gives up a lot of hits. I could see this game going over 8.5 easy.

matskralc · 04-14-08, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by CashMoney

Duke's career numbers against the Dodgers are horrible.

So? You're aware the Dodgers change players all the time, yes?

twtb19 · 04-14-08, 07:28 PM

I think -174 for the Dodgers is a little steep. The Pirates aren't a good team but have won 3 straight and are 6-6 on the year. Granted they did just fly across the country and the last 3 games were at home, but I still wouldn't want to lay those odds for a 5-7 Dodgers team.

edit: Odds were taken from 5dimes at time of post.

matskralc · 04-14-08, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Duke gives up a lot of hits.

Much more relevant. Duke gives up tons and tons and tons of balls in play. His ERA this year is deceptively light-years better than it should be.

CashMoney · 04-14-08, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by matskralc

So? You're aware the Dodgers change players all the time, yes?

Uh....yes but although teams change players it's still a good gauge to get a feel as to how a pitcher fairs in a specific park. Duke gives up a lot of hit...Dodgers play in a large field...get it now

element1286 · 04-14-08, 07:35 PM

A lot of the Dodgers young guys have good career numbers against Duke, albeit in a limited number of at bats.

matskralc · 04-14-08, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by CashMoney

Uh....yes but although teams change players it's still a good gauge to get a feel as to how a pitcher fairs in a specific park.

Then why don't you just look at his stats in that park, as statistically insignificant as they might be?

Saunders FTW · 04-14-08, 07:44 PM

under ftw

CashMoney · 04-14-08, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by matskralc

Then why don't you just look at his stats in that park, as statistically insignificant as they might be?

Who said their insignifigant? BTW teams do change players but normally a team will not have a new 1-9 from 1 year to the next.

chipski · 04-14-08, 07:47 PM

I remember Duke being pretty good one year , seems like a long time ago now , he sucked last year , hurt . He is only 25 and he's a lefty so that has to count for something (am I the only one that thinks that way ? )
I have no idea what he will do starting tonight . Dodgers seem the play but I remember losing having the Dodgers playing the Pirates a couple times , was not a fun time . Who the hellz knows .

It would be easy to give some angles on this game but really is too high of odds to take a Kuroda the old rookie lol , and and and and man **** this hsssheet .

pass the 420 .
I would take plus odds here and look for it to be nooooo good , but do it just for entertainment and feel liek a genius on top of getting the lil wager . -175 ? they trippin right .

Bay deep !!! just kidding I need some emoticon

I am high typing this shit man ! lmao

element1286 · 04-14-08, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by chipski

I remember Duke being pretty good one year , seems like a long time ago now , he sucked last year , hurt . He is only 25 and he's a lefty so that has to count for something (am I the only one that thinks that way ? )
I have no idea what he will do starting tonight . Dodgers seem the play but I remember losing having the Dodgers playing the Pirates a couple times , was not a fun time . Who the hellz knows .

Duke is a fifth starter. His first year was a mirage. He is very hittable, walks too many guys, and doesn't have an out pitch.

CashMoney · 04-14-08, 07:51 PM

At -190.....2 much juice. No play for me.

chipski · 04-14-08, 08:03 PM

yeah games of brillance can hit esp early on nights out on the town .

lol Kippy Wells dominated the Dodgers one special night . Dont turn on your satellite radio .

these games when someone like Duke shines are not predictable really . one man can make you player of the game or goat . ground into dp with bases loaded vs hit a grand slam or even a friggin walk .
The # of times a pitcher did great this year when didn't expect it is almost as equal to the number we thought a pitcher would do well and did . lol 2 weeks into the season , no way we know wtf these mo fos will do .

thegreatdiatchi · 04-14-08, 08:05 PM

I think both Dodgers & overs hit.

CashMoney · 04-14-08, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by chipski

yeah games of brillance can hit esp early on nights out on the town .

lol Kippy Wells dominated the Dodgers one special night . Dont turn on your satellite radio .

these games when someone like Duke shines are not predictable really . one man can make you player of the game or goat . ground into dp with bases loaded vs hit a grand slam or even a friggin walk .
The # of times a pitcher did great this year when didn't expect it is almost as equal to the number we thought a pitcher would do well and did . lol 2 weeks into the season , no way we know wtf these mo fos will do .

Phuckin April baseball

OLGC_Slayer · 04-15-08, 12:02 AM

Wow. What a knife in the gut if you were on the Dodge.

BuddyBear · 04-15-08, 12:22 AM

bad beats like this every single night in baseball....about 3 or 4 games were major moose jobs. Not a day goes by where the moose doesn't come out. This was a huge moose b/c of the teams, closer, and situation....

If you had LAD tonight....you probably won't sleep tonight.

BigOrangeTitans · 04-15-08, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

bad beats like this every single night in baseball....about 3 or 4 games were major moose jobs. Not a day goes by where the moose doesn't come out. This was a huge moose b/c of the teams, closer, and situation....

If you had LAD tonight....you probably won't sleep tonight.

Same goes for twins and indian backers BB.

Managers completely have no feel for their team right now. You should know during warm-ups who doesn't have their stuff that day.

BuddyBear · 04-15-08, 12:26 AM

When Seto couldn't get LaRoach, a PH batting .100, that should have been a clue to get him out.

But then again, what do you expect from Joe Torree, the game has clearly passed him by.

BigOrangeTitans · 04-15-08, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

When Seto couldn't get LaRoach, a PH batting .100, that should have been a clue to get him out.

But then again, what do you expect from Joe Torree, the game has clearly passed him by.

100% agree.
I actually think they are letting them "pitch through it" as they feel it will help them later in the year.

What they fail to realize, is in august when they are in a pennant race and could use an extra win or two, that they just gave more than that away early in the year.

BuddyBear · 04-15-08, 12:35 AM

Just some days your top closer does not have his stuff...Seto was struggling with the first two batter throwing 11 pitches. Normally, that is 1 inning of work for him. Of course Torre just leaves him in there.

Torre should have at the very least sent the pitching coach out there to settle him down and talk through the hitters. We are talking about a 1 run lead here. Most of these managers I swear have no idea what they are doing most of the time....

CashMoney · 04-15-08, 07:49 AM

At least something went right for me yesterday...took a bath but would have taken a major beating had a played the Dodgers.