Yeah. Someday maybe your Congress will put their heads out of their asses.
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diogee
SBR Posting Legend
01-11-08
19477
#145
Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
Yeah. Someday maybe your Congress will put their heads out of their asses.
No kidding.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#146
What business is it of the governments how I use my money as long as it isnt harming anyone?
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JamesBrown
SBR MVP
04-07-08
3860
#147
I love the Giants Bullpen!!!!!! Could this be their greatest meltdown of the season...lets hope so.....don't want to jinx your over!
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#148
I would like to see the Cards win here so we are all happy. Cmon you phucking slags!
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#149
my 2 plays for the big unit contest are san fran and under , so what im about to say isnt some after the fact crap . i just wonder how many years does a guy have to gamble and see a team like stl open up at -125 vs. a dog with fleas like san fran and actually think for one second that stl has a chance of winning??? now it is 5-1 and i could just jinx myself here but gambling becomes investing and is so much easier when you can just identify lines that are too good to be ture and go opposite. i swear it seems like 97% of everyone in this forum is on stl for heavyweight money. makes no sense - the opening line told you that stl had no chance. now if they opened up at -175 i would have been all over stl and they would have won 9-0. handicapping is so unnecessary when the opening line tells you all you need to know.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#150
Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
my 2 plays for the big unit contest are san fran and under , so what im about to say isnt some after the fact crap . i just wonder how many years does a guy have to gamble and see a team like stl open up at -125 vs. a dog with fleas like san fran and actually think for one second that stl has a chance of winning??? now it is 5-1 and i could just jinx myself here but gambling becomes investing and is so much easier when you can just identify lines that are too good to be ture and go opposite. i swear it seems like 97% of everyone in this forum is on stl for heavyweight money. makes no sense - the opening line told you that stl had no chance. now if they opened up at -175 i would have been all over stl and they would have won 9-0. handicapping is so unnecessary when the opening line tells you all you need to know.
Tell me more. I am all ears.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#151
I was on over 7.5
MOONCRICKET I am here to learn. Tell me what you know bro.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#152
look im no genius man and im really not trying to brag after the fact (i hate people who come out of the woods once the game is over to say i told you so, know what i mean?) its just that ive taken a lot of abuse over the years gambling on teams that "on paper" look like "locks". no question clearly stl is better than sf. in fact some AAA teams are better tan sf. but stl opened up at -120 or -125 which is basically like even money so, (and this applies to all sports) when a line is begging you to take a certain side like stl tonight you either lay off, or go opposite. vegas isnt getting any smaller. this shit isnt supposed to be easy. in football you see an undefeated team go on the road -3 vs. a team the is 3-4 it never fails that home dog plays their best game and the crowd is going apeshit and they pull of the upset and win. and 99% of gambling public is out in the yard kicking their dog from one end to the other. im tellin you bro spare yourself the misery and just try using this philosophy - it only cost me about a quarter million to learn.... dont bet obvious sides - just go opposite blindly. dont handicap, just read lines. you figure in your head the other night when boston lost to detroit boston at h ome opened at -140 and dropped to -130. detroit was winless and we all know boston is a powerhouse team. yet the line opened small and actually in favor of a winless detroit team that had only scored like 15 runs in 7 games. when i see that it becomes obvious to me that some how some way detroit was going to win and PS they cruised 7-2 like they should have been favored -200, you know? look so far im 7-0 in this baseball contest and i have yet to handicap a game. i just set lines in my mind about where they should be and when i see some line that is way off i just go opposite regardless of who is better what pitcher is on the mound whatever historical trends are goin against me - i dont care i just go opposite any line that is too good to be true. i went 24-4 in colleg hoops during the tourney and had money line bet +250 on memphis to win it all ( i made that bet when there were only final four left) and of course i lost it but overall i crushed the book this year just by taking teams like miss st +6 over memphis, miami +6 over texas, etc. teams that had no business in those games yet they still shomehow covered. i had wky +4 over drake, san diego +12 over uconn, and the list goes on. the championship game i had one of my biggest bets on the under because it opened at 144 and i thought it should have opened aroung 158-160 because memphis and kansas both run like hell and score a ton of points but the line was just screaming at me begging me to bet over so i had to bet under, see what i mean? look my picks are open to the public - im no great handicapper but i promise you i will win some of this money here just by betting teams that "on paper" should get killed. you can PM me any time and i'll give you a best bet every day. you take care of me and ill make sure you collect.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#153
Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
I was on over 7.5
MOONCRICKET I am here to learn. Tell me what you know bro.
as far as the total here it opened at 8.5 and dropped to 7.5. now my philosphy here is that because the line already told me that stlouis had no chance and we both know san fran cant score... if san fran was going to win here it wasnt going to be 10-7, you know. the only way they were gonna win was if stl didnt do much scoring, so that why i hooked san fran with under and also the heavy line move kind of solidified the play for me because 7.5 is just super low and begs you to go over.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#154
Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
look im no genius man and im really not trying to brag after the fact (i hate people who come out of the woods once the game is over to say i told you so, know what i mean?) its just that ive taken a lot of abuse over the years gambling on teams that "on paper" look like "locks". no question clearly stl is better than sf. in fact some AAA teams are better tan sf. but stl opened up at -120 or -125 which is basically like even money so, (and this applies to all sports) when a line is begging you to take a certain side like stl tonight you either lay off, or go opposite. vegas isnt getting any smaller. this shit isnt supposed to be easy. in football you see an undefeated team go on the road -3 vs. a team the is 3-4 it never fails that home dog plays their best game and the crowd is going apeshit and they pull of the upset and win. and 99% of gambling public is out in the yard kicking their dog from one end to the other. im tellin you bro spare yourself the misery and just try using this philosophy - it only cost me about a quarter million to learn.... dont bet obvious sides - just go opposite blindly. dont handicap, just read lines. you figure in your head the other night when boston lost to detroit boston at h ome opened at -140 and dropped to -130. detroit was winless and we all know boston is a powerhouse team. yet the line opened small and actually in favor of a winless detroit team that had only scored like 15 runs in 7 games. when i see that it becomes obvious to me that some how some way detroit was going to win and PS they cruised 7-2 like they should have been favored -200, you know? look so far im 7-0 in this baseball contest and i have yet to handicap a game. i just set lines in my mind about where they should be and when i see some line that is way off i just go opposite regardless of who is better what pitcher is on the mound whatever historical trends are goin against me - i dont care i just go opposite any line that is too good to be true. i went 24-4 in colleg hoops during the tourney and had money line bet +250 on memphis to win it all ( i made that bet when there were only final four left) and of course i lost it but overall i crushed the book this year just by taking teams like miss st +6 over memphis, miami +6 over texas, etc. teams that had bo business in those games yet they still shomehow covered. i had wky +4 over drake, san diego +12 over uconn, and the list goes on. the championship game i had one of my biggest bets on the under because it opened at 144 and i thought it should have opened aroung 158-160 because memphis and kansas both run like hell and score a ton of points but the line was just screaming at me begging me to bet over so i had to bet under, see what i mean? look my picks are open to the public - im no great handicapper but i promise you i will win some of this money here just by betting teams that "on paper" should get killed. you can PM me any time and i'll give you a best bet every day. you take care of me and ill make sure you collect.
Dude you make it sound so easy.
Alright. I did my regular capping and my picks tomorrow are
LA Angels +111
Houston RL +136
Critique away.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#155
Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
as far as the total here it opened at 8.5 and dropped to 7.5. now my philosphy here is that because the line already told me that stlouis had no chance and we both know san fran cant score... if san fran was going to win here it wasnt going to be 10-7, you know. the only way they were gonna win was if stl didnt do much scoring, so that why i hooked san fran with under and also the heavy line move kind of solidified the play for me because 7.5 is just super low and begs you to go over.
OK. I think you should start a thread here a post your picks.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#156
my picks are posted on the contest thread but im tring to win this thing so i dont want people jumping on my moves, nit like anyone really will because who the hell am i? no one knows me and i have yet to really make a name for myself here on this site, but now that i'm 7-0 im aoing to be posting my picks 2 minutes prior to first pitch. there are some truly dedicated guys here who post every day and are really active and have a running total of their moves for every sport - i dont think im really that dedicated. i'll let the contest results speak for themsleves once this is all over with. how much is your average play? whats the biggest bet you ever made?
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The_Kid
SBR Hall of Famer
02-09-08
5049
#157
Wow, MoonCricket. I just finished reading your information, and I'd like to see some of your picks. I might PM you tomorrow to see what who you're taking. You wager on all sports?
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#158
I dont believe opening lines are set to get action on one side. They are to get even action and then move by action being placed. Low line might have to do with a team traveling to west coast for opener. Usually a bad sign for teams. Vegas has no idea who is going to win games as much as anyone else. The opening line of 8.5 on total was a generous line and since it dropped a run I am sure majority were on under.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#159
Originally posted by The_Kid
Wow, MoonCricket. I just finished reading your information, and I'd like to see some of your picks. I might PM you tomorrow to see what who you're taking. You wager on all sports?
i wager on football, baskets, and baseball. i bet the most amount of money on baseball with fewest amount of plays. i bet more games in football and baskets but i dont bet big unless i get on a roll and feel liek taking a big shot. primarily i make the bulk of my money for the year in bases, followed by college hoops, then nfl. i used to work for a sports service for 5 years. word of advice dont ever pay a service - you know those guys who advertise 90% winners 88-6 monday night record - stuff like that - those guys are full of it - i know - you ever see two for the money? that was my boss. no lie. only false part of the movie? we NEVER won, so that was the unrealistic part. but i used to take my clients on the side and tell them to western union me money for my picks and we usually did pretty well. the service i worked for actually went the whole year without picking one winner on monday night football. can u believe that? 17 weeks - one game - zero winners. yeah you can PM me just keep in mind im trying to win this contest so im not really looking to help anyone beat me, at least not for free
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#160
Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
i wager on football, baskets, and baseball. i bet the most amount of money on baseball with fewest amount of plays. i bet more games in football and baskets but i dont bet big unless i get on a roll and feel liek taking a big shot. primarily i make the bulk of my money for the year in bases, followed by college hoops, then nfl. i used to work for a sports service for 5 years. word of advice dont ever pay a service - you know those guys who advertise 90% winners 88-6 monday night record - stuff like that - those guys are full of it - i know - you ever see two for the money? that was my boss. no lie. only false part of the movie? we NEVER won, so that was the unrealistic part. but i used to take my clients on the side and tell them to western union me money for my picks and we usually did pretty well. the service i worked for actually went the whole year without picking one winner on monday night football. can u believe that? 17 weeks - one game - zero winners. yeah you can PM me just keep in mind im trying to win this contest so im not really looking to help anyone beat me, at least not for free
I lost all credibility with you on that post, sorry.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#161
Originally posted by pokernut9999
I dont believe opening lines are set to get action on one side. They are to get even action and then move by action being placed. Low line might have to do with a team traveling to west coast for opener. Usually a bad sign for teams. Vegas has no idea who is going to win games as much as anyone else. The opening line of 8.5 on total was a generous line and since it dropped a run I am sure majority were on under.
like i said poker im not full of myself and im not claiming to be some guru. but iven been involved in every aspect of sports gambling that a human being can take part in - from being a book, to working for a really big book, to been to vegas over 40 times, to working for a sports service for 5 years and gambling on everything from jai-alai to nfl to premiership soccer to dog racing and ive picked up a couple pointers along the way thats all. not saying tonight was any guaranteed game but it seems lkike 9 times outta 10 when a line just jumps off the page like stl tonight it is usually a loser and the total was an under because sf cant win a high scoring game. thats all. so best of luck, sincerely- ive seen you post a milion times here and i know youre a true hardcore player - just stay away from the obvious - in fact go opposite and you'll make money. i would have finished 3rd in the beat the prick contest but my last week of plays was submitted 10 minutes late which really bummed me out. i just turned a $200 promo from oddsmaker.com into 3,394 and as per their rules i could only pull 894 of it and they actually paid me that was a separate 7-0 from the 7-0 run im on now wth bases, so all egos aside i know a thing or 2. there are better handicappers than me thats for sure, but im happy with the reults i get year in and year out.
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#162
Yea and I was 2 games away from 2nd in the BTP contest, but that is another can of worms. The SF game had 2 obvious plays and they went 1-1. Do not see where anyone was begging you to take the over. Good thing St.L did not get a 2 out hit in the 8th or 9th or Vegas would have been buried on the total.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#163
poker are u kidding - i hope you dont think im here trying to charge for picks - thats not my M.O. plus im not good enough anyways. what ? just cuz i worked for a tout service when i was 21-26 years old i lost credibility with you?? youre joking right? i just used that as an example to let you guys know to never pay a tout service - their all full of it - i know from ani insiders prospective. i am by no means trying to benefit financially from others by touting picks on this site - i just cant give away my picks when im trying to win a contest here. be happy to give them after first pitch so you can track em but other than that i wouldnt give em early or charge for em at all, so please explain the crack on me about credibility. i have a lot of integrity and i take that stuff seriously
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#164
If your picks are so good and with all your experience you should be betting more on one game then the contest pays period.
Unlike the BTP contest with a 8k 1st place I can see , but for a couple hundred is too damn funny.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#165
it wasnt begging over but whenit droped to 7 1/2 it makes it difficult to pull the trigger on the under that sall. all im really saying here is that san fran to me was obvious and as a result of san fran being obvious coupled with the fact that they cant score the under just cam in naturally. hey im on a good run im seeing things clearly but that doesnt last forever and sure as im sittin here ill hit the skids at some point. you know you just lose feel after grinding it out every single day for months straight - eventually it looks like a jumble of numbers and i get no real gut vibe and thats when i either stop for a week or just fly to vegas and play roullette instead.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#166
see dude that unfair because i never claimed to be some guru. im not ahuge bettor. im happy when my account hits 10k. many guys here bet that amount 5 times a day. so youre just ripping on me for responding to other poeples posts. all the games im talking about playing are documented somewhere on this site but that doesnt mean i wont go 0-3 tomorrow - i think you got me pegged all wrong here - im just one of the guys here trying to have some fun and spread some good vibes, man. believe me"all of my experience " has cost me lots of money in years past - im not maniancal about gambling as i used to be. but i wish you well and i hope you crush your book.
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austintx05
SBR MVP
08-24-06
3156
#167
i know exactly what moon is saying. Its not about capping to him, its about identifying lines.
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#168
Still do not see where line was off. Corriea opened up -165 last start on road and pitched well. Why should line at home be -170 ? SF already home and St.L traveling.
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OLGC_Slayer
SBR MVP
02-28-08
2186
#169
whatever works. we are all here to help eachother out. thats my attitude. i'm here to become a more profitable wagerer and talk sports with other bettors.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#170
thanks tex. believe me ive tried it evry which way i used to buy all the publications -read up on recruiting classes - follow trends, you name it - ive just found that in the interest of not being obsessed with analysis and sving some time i just look for lines that seem too good to be true and i go opposite - hey it works for me, if spending hours online picking through every stat is what gives a guy an edge then more power to them. hell i used to enjoy that too, but know god has blessed me with a girlfriend who might as well be a victorias secret model and a thriving business so i cant be the old selfish prick i used to be spending 40 hours a week in front of the tv or out at the track gambling. half the time i make a bet i dont even get the result until the next day. i used to be so wrapped up in it it almost consumed my whole life, but now i just have fun with it win lose or draw. it is uncanny howevr that if u take the bottom 40% of the contest entrants every one of them had st louis lonight and the few guys who had san fran are near the top. its just not a coincidence. this site offers a very valuable tool in that you can see what guys who are 3-12 are picking and it seems like most nights they are all on the same obvious favorites.
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#171
poker i dont even know who corriea is. never heard of him. i just know that stl is 7-2 and sf stinks and the line opened near pick em. any further analysis is a waste of time. had the line been stl -165 i would have laid off the game having no idea who to take.
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pokernut9999
SBR Posting Legend
07-25-07
12757
#172
Not knowing who Correia is confirms what I am saying. Hard to take anyone serious when they have never heard of a pitcher that is starting a game.
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FreeFall
SBR MVP
02-20-08
3365
#173
and that is why you always bet against the public.
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austintx05
SBR MVP
08-24-06
3156
#174
Originally posted by FreeFall
and that is why you always bet against the public.
so you bet against yourself?
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MOONCRICKET
SBR High Roller
08-23-07
239
#175
im done arguing with you nut - i dont need to know who correia is to be successful at betting - in fact no one does, you can spend hours on end analyzing stats and info and past performances all you want whatever works for you, apparently tonight it didnt work for you. meanwhile it took me all of 5 seconds to see that this was a fishy line and another 5 seconds to go opposite the "obvious favorite" and spend about 3 hours awaiting the formality of the forgone conclusion that the end result was going to be a sf win. go back through all the posts and where this whole thread started with a guy asking for some advice on this game and you get 50 people preaching st louis with no one word about san fran. all 50 of those guys loved st louis because they knew who corriea is.