Braves Acquire Alex Gonzales For Yunel Escobar

OMGRandyJackson · 07-14-10, 01:02 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1639811/ just another link for you deniers lol.

I think this hurts the Jays short term but improves them long term.

clonecat · 07-14-10, 01:24 PM

From what I understand, the two players the Braves received in the trade have huge upside, where the Braves see them more valuable than Escobar AND they get Gonzalez.

btd · 07-14-10, 01:31 PM

I think that Gonzo may have an attitude problem, that may be why he's played for so many different teams (Red Sox twice) as a Boston fan I would still rather him over Scutaro.

KenardRage · 07-14-10, 01:44 PM

i wonder what toronto saw in the guy musta saw something good?

blingish · 07-14-10, 01:51 PM

As a braves fan Im not so sure about this trade. I think we may have just traded a future superstar. This has been an off year for escobar. I just dont like seeing us trade away young talent. (i.e. Francoeur) It would have been nice to see what Heyward, Escobar, and some of the other young talent we have could have done together after Chipper is gone.

tyloxx420 · 07-14-10, 02:37 PM

Hell yeah, digging the trade.

jhause13 · 07-14-10, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by rthoughton

Phils will win the NL EAst, the Cards will win the NL Central and The Rockies/Dodgers will win the NL west. And whichever of those finishes second, will win the Wild Card. No division leader will win their division or make the playoffs this year.
Bet on that.

I will bet you that atleast one of the teams leading a division as of today will make the playoffs in the NL whether it be by winning their division or winning the wildcard. Put your points where your mouth is.

whatsgood5 · 07-14-10, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by blingish

As a braves fan Im not so sure about this trade. I think we may have just traded a future superstar. This has been an off year for escobar. I just dont like seeing us trade away young talent. (i.e. Francoeur) It would have been nice to see what Heyward, Escobar, and some of the other young talent we have could have done together after Chipper is gone.

What the fukk? You didn't like seeing us trade Frenchy??? The guy's a god damn joke on the field, he'll swing at anything within teen feet of him.

That being said, I do like him as a person, no homo.

Terrapin Station · 07-14-10, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by MarlinsFan2212

Good trade for Braves IMO.

Agree with you on that.

jgiun1 · 07-14-10, 03:43 PM

Braves suck donkey dick and I hope all the trades they make hurt them in the end.

Grits n' Gravy · 07-14-10, 03:50 PM

Right now Braves have best rotation in division. Hudson is far from inexperienced. Like all sports, injuries will be a factor in the 2h.

whatsgood5 · 07-14-10, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by jgiun1

Braves suck donkey dick and I hope all the trades they make hurt them in the end.

Solid post, you really know your stuff.

vboyt · 07-14-10, 04:05 PM

braves will win the world series, lock thread please.

extenzeuser · 07-14-10, 04:07 PM

word on the street is that Escobar and chipper were intimate and got caught in the locker room so they had to ship one of them outta hotlanta

rthoughton · 07-14-10, 04:19 PM

no division leader wins the division. How many you wanna put on that?

And I forgot about Hudson. But he is coming off of an injury. Wagner is coming off an injury. Glaus is coming off of an injury-ridden life.
Phils just swept the Reds in 4. Will come real close to sweeping the Cubs in Wrigley this weekend. They are 4.5 games back with the most important players going down to injury in the National League.
They have the best team in NL East, still. The Braves are good and Young and have some talent. But this just aint the year. ANd that deal for Alex is NOT a good one. You dont trade a lifetime .300 bat (27 year old) for a bum who had a hot/unexpected first half.
Turner Field smashes his power, too.
Anyone who thinks this is a good deal for the Braves is retarded at best.
Phils, Cards, Rockies, Dodgers will be in the Playoffs in 2010.

rthoughton · 07-14-10, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Right now Braves have best rotation in division. Hudson is far from inexperienced. Like all sports, injuries will be a factor in the 2h.

Not when Happ gets back and is healthy. Grandpa Moyer has been very good, and Halladay and Hamels alone make a better staff than in ATl. Jurrjens, Hudson, Hanson are good. but not great. Not yet.

rthoughton · 07-14-10, 04:22 PM

The Phils have the same record at 81 games that they had in each of the last two seasons. I said this already, sure, but I dont feel like you were listening.
They look to become the first team since the 42-44 Cards to win three straight pennants. It's happening. Get ready for it.

rthoughton · 07-14-10, 04:23 PM

And one more thing. Alex Gonzalez SUCKS ASS.

whatsgood5 · 07-14-10, 04:33 PM

Yeahhhh good luck with that buddy, that's about all I have to say...

nbt3428 · 07-14-10, 04:38 PM

Interesting deal for Jays...I like the chance they took that Escobar can turn it around

nbarlotta3 · 07-14-10, 04:41 PM

That's a good pick up. He has a big bat that will fit right into that lineup.

jhause13 · 07-14-10, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by rthoughton

Not when Happ gets back and is healthy. Grandpa Moyer has been very good, and Halladay and Hamels alone make a better staff than in ATl. Jurrjens, Hudson, Hanson are good. but not great. Not yet.

Hamels is a .500 pitcher so far this year. IMO Halladay hasn't been on the top of his game this season. He's been pitching up to his standards but I don't think he's the Cy Young winner the Phillies thought they were getting when they acquired him. Do you really expect the Phillies to use Moyer in the playoffs? He's almost 50 and will be lucky to finish the season. Happ isn't going to bounce back and be a great pitcher he never has been a great pitcher. He's been good at best.

Bottom line is I think the Braves at this point in the season have a better team. The Phillies have been hampered by injuries and who knows if that will end. They have to make a trade to improve their rotation in order to compete with the Braves for the division.

I'll bet on that.

unusialsusp5 · 07-14-10, 05:26 PM

braves will fade with this stiff at shortstop. will get injured by august as ususal

OTL · 07-14-10, 05:39 PM

Puzzling move

Looks like the Jays have given up on this season...

Grind-It-Out · 07-14-10, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by rthoughton

Phils just swept the Reds in 4.

4 extremely tight games that could have gone either way.

Who did you guys play before the Reds? What was the result of that series?

whatsgood5 · 07-14-10, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Grind-It-Out

Who did you guys play before the Reds? What was the result of that series?

Ahahah gottem

jhause13 · 07-14-10, 05:59 PM

Haha very nice. Grandpap Moyer wasn't "very good" in his outing against the Braves in that series. 7 ER in 7 innings? Now thats very good!

Regul8er · 07-14-10, 06:03 PM

Gonzalez has been playing out of his shoes this year. Until this spurt he's been a formitable 80-100 game a year SS who will hit about 250.

Eagle1958 · 07-14-10, 06:07 PM

Doesn't matter too much. The Braves aren't going anywhere anyway.

amarkle2 · 07-14-10, 07:37 PM

i think each team will benefit from the trade. I think escobar need a new scene.