Give Me A Lesson On How To Bet Baseball!!

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 12:03 AM

Never lay anything more than -130
Breakdown the schedules
Any pitcher that has a decent whip who is getting plus money is always worth taking
Keep a close eye on how well the bullpens are pitching

There's alot more, but that's good for starters. Keep an eye on bbd, onlookers and my plays this summer. Together we made over 300 units in bases last season.

**imgv94** · 01-12-06, 12:08 AM

DAMN +300!!!!

I am all up on here for baseball brother!!! Hey I know when the Dodgers
are going to win! I have only bet baseball in the playoffs. At vegas.

Any advice or comments i welcome. I wanna learn..

you guys are pimps!! +300 units!! I am all over that!! Illusion your baseball
and my football we can take over bro!!

**Razz** · 01-12-06, 12:29 AM

No matter what the circumstances, bet on Atlanta and Under the day after a Braves loss if Smoltz is pitching.
Ride bad teams who are playing well. The price never catches up until they start playing badly again.
Find certain pitchers (We can have a running thread. These will change throughout the season) and fade the shit out of them unless they are playing another fade pitcher.
As Illusion said, dogs and small faves are the way to go, though I completely disagree about never laying more than -130. I don't mind laying -150 at times; rare, but these lines can still be playable. Also, as I said earlier, Smoltz off a Braves loss is an automatic bet no matter what the price. He is something like 88% in his career the day after a Braves loss, with an ERA around 1.5.
Bet against the glamour teams whenever possible - most notably the Yankees.
On a related note, bet against teams who just finished a series with the Yankees.
General trends like how a team does against left-handed or right-handed pitching can be profitable.

These are all offhand, and I have been awake for a long time, and there is plenty more advice I could offer.

**bigboydan** · 01-12-06, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by Illusion

There's alot more, but that's good for starters. Keep an eye on bbd, onlookers and my plays this summer. Together we made over 300 units in bases last season.

thats true too, because, it's all documented !!

**imgv94** · 01-12-06, 05:57 AM

Friggin Pimps you guys!! +300.. Thanks everyone and please send more
if you can!! bbd c'mon dogg let me know what you know bro!!

Hey I am not too proud to ask.. Razz thanks I printed out what you
wrote and will go by what you wrote.. Man you guys are my doggs
Good lookin out!!!

More I love to learn and I never forget have a memory that should
be in contests people say. That is why I do so good in football is
because of my memory.. More info on bettin baseball please!!

thanks!!

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 05:59 AM

If Jeff Fassero starts a game, fade him at all costs.

**bigboydan** · 01-12-06, 06:01 AM

there is a few more than Fassero i can tell you that

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 06:03 AM

Just keep a close eye out as it gets closer to spring trainging. We'll make sure you crush the books this summer im, I promise.

**imgv94** · 01-12-06, 06:03 AM

I have one when Dodgers play Padres and Dodgers pitcher has over a 4 era..

play padres.. I never played it. but i know alot of dodgers fans that know
padres are our enemy and usually beat the dodgers unless dodgers have
better pitcher..

**moses millsap** · 01-12-06, 01:00 PM

Baseball capping requires a lot more depth than in the other sports, so if you do your homework, you can be successful, or if you try to just cap a game quickly, you can get burned for overlooking things. One thing not mentioned above that is critical is knowing the umpires, naturally the one calling balls and strikes is the most important. In the first games of series, you have to wait 30-45 minutes before the first pitch to find out who is BHP. If you have a familiarity with the umps, which ones have a larger/smaller strikezone, which ones favor the high strike, which ones give the corners, which ones have trouble calling breaking stuff, etc., it's a huge advantage when considering how that starting pitcher will fare that night. Also, track game logs from previous days, sift through local material to see if you can get a grasp on who the manager may try to utilize out of his bullpen and how those particular individuals match up with the umpire's tendacies.

If you like trends, there are a number of known ones out there such as when you got two LHP's starting, it usually works toward the under, etc.

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by OWNED

Baseball capping requires a lot more depth than in the other sports, so if you do your homework, you can be successful, or if you try to just cap a game quickly, you can get burned for overlooking things. One thing not mentioned above that is critical is knowing the umpires, naturally the one calling balls and strikes is the most important. In the first games of series, you have to wait 30-45 minutes before the first pitch to find out who is BHP. If you have a familiarity with the umps, which ones have a larger/smaller strikezone, which ones favor the high strike, which ones give the corners, which ones have trouble calling breaking stuff, etc., it's a huge advantage when considering how that starting pitcher will fare that night. Also, track game logs from previous days, sift through local material to see if you can get a grasp on who the manager may try to utilize out of his bullpen and how those particular individuals match up with the umpire's tendacies.

If you like trends, there are a number of known ones out there such as when you got two LHP's starting, it usually works toward the under, etc.

Very key point OWNED, although the umps very rarely factor into my capping since I bet alot of overnights.

**bigboydan** · 01-12-06, 05:40 PM

umps are very key on certain pitchers IMO

i believe it was randasio that has a 16-1 stat when randy johnson starts a game.

**moses millsap** · 01-12-06, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

Very key point OWNED, although the umps very rarely factor into my capping since I bet alot of overnights.

Got to love the 5c lines at 5dimes overnight, although they cap it at a nickel limit.

**Alamorich** · 01-12-06, 08:02 PM

Hey IMG. I love bases and to me it's the easiest sport to win money. Bases is the only sport where I parlay. That's what I do with the -150 and above. I might parlay at -185 with a
-125 let's say which I am also going to be covering. There is also money to be made betting the first 5 innings on a team with a bad bull pen. On some teams the starting pitchers pitch their asses off only to have the bullpen blow the game and that can happen night in and night out. Another phenomenon to look for is that some teams give some pitchers runs support up the ass and for some pitchers they can't scratch out a run to save their lives. I totally agree with betting against the glamor teams. I don't know what the figures are but I would guess that if you bet against the Yankees on the blind last year a guy would have made a ton of money.

**Alamorich** · 01-12-06, 08:08 PM

Oh forgot to tell you guys that I played golf with a Cincinnati Reds talent scout yesterday. He covers the mid-west. Very cool talking baseball with an insider. It got me all fired up for bases which is what brought me to this thread.

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 08:20 PM

im, pinnacle also has spreads up to -2.5. That really comes in handy towards the end of the season.

**onlooker** · 01-12-06, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

im, pinnacle also has spreads up to -2.5. That really comes in handy towards the end of the season.

Runlines were cashing great for me the last few weeks of the season with the teams that were making their playoff runs. Like with Philly, they were cashing me RL's very nicely. I usually stop Bases right after the Allstar break, but seen the RL's were cashing at a good rate for the playoff contenders the last few weeks of the regular season.

April cant get here soon enough, I love betting baseball. Not only for the money, but for the game.

**imgv94** · 01-12-06, 08:32 PM

Thanks you guys!! I really appreciate it.. I know nothing about betting baseball
now i know a decent amount. I never thought about cappin what umpire is
calling the game,but that is a brillant idea.. So spreads in games are -2.5??
sometimes? I have only bet ML's. I know nothing about runlines..

thanks and more is appreciated!! you guys are really cool for taking
your time to help me out!!

**Illusion** · 01-12-06, 08:37 PM

All sides are moneylines, but you can use pinny's drop down bar to adjust the line from -0.5 to -2.5 and of course +0.5 to +2.5

If you really like the doggies pinny offers reverse runlines at -1.5 with huge + money. If played right you can make a fortune.

**onlooker** · 01-12-06, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

So spreads in games are -2.5??
sometimes? I have only bet ML's. I know nothing about runlines..

Probably about 95% of my bets are ML in Bases. Normal RL's are -1.5. Pinny also offers Alternate RL's, were the dog will have the favored RL (-1.5), but will have a bigger comeback then the ML.

**Alamorich** · 01-12-06, 09:54 PM

I have not have much success with RL's and will play them sparingly this season. I think RL's are sucker bets the Makers have to get players to but on prohibitive favorites. I would rather parlay the big favorite rather than play the RL if I really want action on the game. Later in the season trends develope where some teams just spank a particular team or pitcher and that is the best time to play RLs if at all.

**moses millsap** · 01-12-06, 11:35 PM

I play alt. runlines quite often.

**bigboydan** · 01-13-06, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by OWNED

I play alt. runlines quite often.

owned, did you keep any stats on this one at all. because, i'm rather curious to see those %'s opposed to straight bets.

**Illusion** · 01-13-06, 12:04 AM

It's a proven fact that books lose on rl's and alt rl's. I will have to dig up that old thread. If someone finds it before me, please post it.

**Alamorich** · 01-13-06, 12:55 AM

I would like to see those figures but let me say that I have a bud that will take runs (+1.5) and he swears by it. I always lay the -1.5 which may be why I don't win with RL's with any consistancy.

**imgv94** · 02-09-06, 03:38 AM

Illusion. will we be able to win early in the season>?

**Illusion** · 02-09-06, 03:44 AM

I should. Alot of big dogs cash in the early going.

**imgv94** · 02-09-06, 03:45 AM

Any special books that I will need to deal with bro?

**Illusion** · 02-09-06, 03:48 AM

I use my local and Pinnacle exclusivly. Pinnacle has 8 cent lines.

**imgv94** · 02-09-06, 03:50 AM

Do you do parlays? Do you ever bet heavy favorites.??

**bigboydan** · 02-09-06, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Do you do parlays? Do you ever bet heavy favorites.??

i don't do either of those things mentioned above IMG.

last year i bet on 1 game that was a -150 favorite. (whitesox vs A's) and that game was a 10 unit play for me. infact, i remember onlooker pounded that game out there in vegas to the point that line actually moved 10 cents, and then he pounded it after the line move again at the new price, because the value was still there. i remember the sportsbook manager did not want to accept his bet on it again, but he finaly did after getting approvel from upstairs.

btw, he bet this game on the runline +150, then again at +140

**newb411breaker19** · 02-09-06, 06:27 PM

imgv, I had a lot of success betting bases last season (the only problem was I was only playing for a dollar- george washington per game). I had success parlaying heavy favorites on the moneyline. go to audiovegas.com click on baseball handicapping and listen to what andy iskoe has to say about betting baseball. it's a great lesson.

**imgv94** · 02-09-06, 06:54 PM

Again I would like to take a Timeout to say I really appreciate all
of you that took out of your day to prepare me for baseball season
that is soon approaching. 28days this month,

I have a question, onlooker bbd and Ill I want your answers for sure!!
But everyone, it seems like you guys are betting more during baseball
season than you have with football and/or basketball is that true?

**bigboydan** · 02-09-06, 07:48 PM

IMG, i don't bet any more during the baseball season that i bet during any other season. if anything at all, i do bet a little less during baseball season because there is less sporting events to bet on.