Halladay loses today

Fishhead · 05-06-10, 06:43 AM

Probably, Barkley is using him as a huge bailout game.

whatsgood5 · 05-06-10, 06:51 AM

Doubt this

btraband · 05-06-10, 06:53 AM

better pick would be the Orioles to beat the Twins. pays +220 or something in that neighborhood.

floridagolfer · 05-06-10, 07:17 AM

I don't know if Halladay loses today or not, but getting the Cardinals at +220 or so, let's just say that opportunity doesn't present itself very often.

Bluehorseshoe · 05-06-10, 07:36 AM

I like the Cards today for some reason. (The total is insane by the way.)

KC · 05-06-10, 07:39 AM

Wait to see lineups, but has to be better plays than fading Halladay

MartinBlank · 05-06-10, 08:54 AM

I am confused...what is the "system" exactly?

Just picking the first dog on the board?

So if this game went off at 7:05----it wouldn't be a system selection?

Do I have that right? I have to admit it---I have never seen a system selection based on time of day.

Best of luck to you---but I don't see any value betting into two of the very best arms in baseball---Halladay and Haren. Those guys are workhorses and don't make many mistakes.

Davydave · 05-06-10, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by KC

Wait to see lineups, but has to be better plays than fading Halladay

Have to agree, staying away from this game.

Chi_archie · 05-06-10, 09:02 AM

I'm on it too..... let's get this konckers

jayc88 · 05-06-10, 09:13 AM

great systems

what a fking loser

pavyracer · 05-06-10, 09:15 AM

What if there is a rain delay and the game ends up starting later tonight? Is this still a system play?

linedrivr · 05-06-10, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

What if there is a rain delay and the game ends up starting later tonight? Is this still a system play?

inquiring minds would like to know....

fixxer · 05-06-10, 09:25 AM

No way Roy will lose....

desunoto · 05-06-10, 09:27 AM

halladay will win.

SolidDala · 05-06-10, 09:31 AM

I would reckon the value of backing the biggest dog on Saturdays would turn profitable longterm, hence mr Joe are more active and therefor contributes to the loss of value for the favorite. As for this game UNDER is the only play here for me if a bet would be made

feldzpar · 05-06-10, 09:31 AM

Good luck with the play, I doubt Halladay loses to Lohse.

Phillies shouldnt lose this game but I can see "value" in the Cards bet. But, like my Dad says, what is value if they dont win?

KACK · 05-06-10, 09:33 AM

If anything... go with the under.... Why would you bet against the best pitcher in baseball... I see alot more games on the board with better value than the Cardinals... GL

Adebayor365 · 05-06-10, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by desunoto

halladay will win.

Crayzee · 05-06-10, 09:46 AM

the value is there-
but cant see it happening
cards are one trick pony and hallady not gonna let poo hole beat him (meaning pitches around him and intent walk with bases loaded even if neccessary)

rest of cards lineup is garbage
lohse is garbage

Mikail · 05-06-10, 09:46 AM

I think the thread title should read Cards win today if anything. I see the value on the Cardinals but if the Phillies lose I doubt it will be on Halladay's watch. Maybe bullpen. Good luck.

Pick of Destiny · 05-06-10, 09:48 AM

If this game has the same Umps as yesterday, DO NOT TOUCH! They blew two calls that potentially lost 2 runs for the Cards, complete Bullshit calls.

Facepunch · 05-06-10, 09:53 AM

Bold play. Not gonna touch it. But good luck.

rthoughton · 05-06-10, 10:10 AM

when Pitchers' first names are misspelled and homonym difficulty occurs with yourvsyou're I tend to disagree.
Halladay dominates. Phils win again. 3-1 series win vs Cards after the series win vs "the hottest team in baseball" NYM. lol.

LT Profits · 05-06-10, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by konck

I always bet the earliest dog over +165 Thursday afternoon and Saturday afternoon.

Thank you Marc Lawrence.

Dirty Bay Player · 05-06-10, 10:11 AM

-205 seems WAY too expensive against a lineup like the Cards. Aside from FLA, Halladay hasn't faced a good offensive club this year (he's dominated Washington, Houston, Atlanta and the Mets). And two starts ago he gave up 10 hits and five runs through 7 versus the Giants.

None of that really matters - the guy is one of the top three without question.

But so many times that I've loaded up huge on a highly favored pitcher in a game like this and then he surrenders three in the first and you kick yourself for paying so much, because after all the guy is HUMAN. It isn't like Halladay is going against the Astros today, and riding a 10 game winning streak and in a tight Cy Young race. Like I said, he gave up 5 runs through seven to the lowly offensive Giants two starts ago.

Lohse can show up once in a while too, btw.

I think people that load up on Phillies today are envisioning a scoreless top half of first, some quick runs by the Phillies, Lohse getting chased out of the game by the fifth, and the Phillies cruising to an easy win in another complete game for Halladay.

But what if the Cards score 1 or 2 runs in the top of the first? Then ur 615 to win 300 starts kicking up that acid reflux, ur sitting there cursing Raul Ibanez for striking out with the bases loaded, and so on. No thanks - I've suffered through that scenario too many times.

I'm laying two units on the Cards, hoping they can be within one run late into the game. Just accepting the nice value, going to sit back and enjoy the game and pass on the nail biting on this one. Because the Cards have too many weapons and it's just too easy to imagine an early three run homer by Pujols, Rasmus, Holliday or Ludwick.

JC2008 · 05-06-10, 10:13 AM

I agree with the under still being a solid play, even if it has dropped to 8.

Mikail · 05-06-10, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Dirty Bay Player

-205 seems WAY too expensive against a lineup like the Cards. Aside from FLA, Halladay hasn't faced a good offensive club this year (he's dominated Washington, Houston, Atlanta and the Mets). And two starts ago he gave up 10 hits and five runs through 7 versus the Giants.

None of that really matters - the guy is one of the top three without question.

But so many times that I've loaded up huge on a highly favored pitcher in a game like this and then he surrenders three in the first and you kick yourself for paying so much, because after all the guy is HUMAN. It isn't like Halladay is going against the Astros today, and riding a 10 game winning streak and in a tight Cy Young race. Like I said, he gave up 5 runs through seven to the lowly offensive Giants two starts ago.

Lohse can show up once in a while too, btw.

I think people that load up on Phillies today are envisioning a scoreless top half of first, some quick runs by the Phillies, Lohse getting chased out of the game by the fifth, and the Phillies cruising to an easy win in another complete game for Halladay.

But what if the Cards score 1 or 2 runs in the top of the first? Then ur 615 to win 300 starts kicking up that acid reflux, ur sitting there cursing Raul Ibanez for striking out with the bases loaded, and so on. No thanks - I've suffered through that scenario too many times.

I'm laying two units on the Cards, hoping they can be within one run late into the game. Just accepting the nice value, going to sit back and enjoy the game and pass on the nail biting on this one. Because the Cards have too many weapons and it's just too easy to imagine an early three run homer by Pujols, Rasmus, Holliday or Ludwick.

well when you put it this way. The Cards ML does seem like the way to go here. I however do have a small play to consider on the Phillies today. Good luck.

BuffaloBettor · 05-06-10, 10:18 AM

I agree with ya on the Cardinals $$$ value. But I can't bet against Halladay......Phillies RL (-1.5) -110.....GL on your plays today....

Sawyer · 05-06-10, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by feldzpar

But, like my Dad says, what is value if they dont win?

Well said..

Cards lineup is garbage except Pujols and one hitter may not be enough.. Phillies -1½ sounds good! I'm expecting Phillies to win by 4-5 runs.

sonnybaby · 05-06-10, 10:23 AM

Dirty Bay Player · 05-06-10, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Well said..

Cards lineup is garbage except Pujols and one hitter may not be enough.. Phillies -1½ sounds good! I'm expecting Phillies to win by 4-5 runs.

Wow - nice analysis. You think Holliday and Rasmus are garbage? GL to you on your bet, and it's certainly quite possible that the Phillies will steamroll them today. But Holliday is an elite hitter. And Rasmus would be one of the better hitters on 75% of all MLB lineups (except the Phillies').

philswin · 05-06-10, 10:28 AM

When I play 2 -1 Dogs in baseball I do not look at 2 equal teams, one with their top starter going. I would rather take a lower tier team against a top team with their 3 or 4 starter going. But good luck

ProfaneReality · 05-06-10, 10:32 AM

solid reasoning.

whats your other system? betting on the first team that is +150 that has 3 or more syllables in the cities name?

dodger33 · 05-06-10, 10:34 AM

I am glad to see you predict the same type of game Sawyer. I just have one question for all the STL backers. What is Lohse's ERA on the road vs at home the past 3 years.... You might want to take your bets back when you find out the answer. If Philly isn't resting anyone they will knock lohse out before the 5th like they did both times he started agianst them last year. Ahahahha