Is this +EV ( Or am I fooling myself )

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  • nobs
    Restricted User
    • 08-31-09
    • 4216

    #1
    Is this +EV ( Or am I fooling myself )
    I have already bet it, because I think its +EV


    Mariners ML -180
    Orioles + 1 1/2 -120


    Mariners ML $990 to win $550
    Orioles + 1 1/2 $840 to win $700

    So that means the risk is $290 to win $1250 which comes out to better than +400, its actually almost +440.

    I dont know what is the percentage of time a home team wins by exactly 1 when the total is 7, but I am thinking its got to be at least 20%. That in itself would make this +EV because at +440 you only need about 18%.

    I doubt this game even sees the 7. I would say closer to a 2-1, 3-1, or 3-2 game. Cant bet a game under 7, but if I had to play the total it would be under not over.

    Two crap offenses, two good pitchers, two good bullpens who didnt get used much in last nights 3-1 final.

    If this game gets to the 6th or 7th tied or as a one run game, I say it becomes like a 50/50 shot of hitting this, and I think a 0-0 or 1-1 game into the 6th is very likely.

    I already bet it, just not for as much as the numbers I used above for illustration. Still I have it at about $145 to win $625.

    Dont have to worry about rain out here either, Seattle has roof.

    So am I crazy, or is this +EV.
  • rfr3sh
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-07-09
    • 10229

    #2
    answer your other thread
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    • nobs
      Restricted User
      • 08-31-09
      • 4216

      #3
      The one about Baltimore game. I did. They didnt really ask a question, just said they dont agree with me.
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      • rfr3sh
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-07-09
        • 10229

        #4
        no the one about you almost losing everything!
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        • nobs
          Restricted User
          • 08-31-09
          • 4216

          #5
          This may not be +EV ( I think it is ), but anyway I have a feeling that this is going to hit.

          Mariners 3
          Orioles 2

          Final/ 12
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          • nobs
            Restricted User
            • 08-31-09
            • 4216

            #6
            That play won by 4 points.

            Thats the beauty of this play. I cant lose everything.
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            • rm18
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-05
              • 22291

              #7
              +EV
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              • nobs
                Restricted User
                • 08-31-09
                • 4216

                #8
                I agree RM18.

                Should be a very low scoring game.

                To me a +440 is for a total of 11, not a total of 7
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                • whatsgood5
                  Restricted User
                  • 10-13-09
                  • 15359

                  #9
                  Seems like a very smart play to me.
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                  • poker_dummy101
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-03-08
                    • 6395

                    #10
                    i guess you plan on not eating for two weeks if this loses?

                    i guess it'll take you to hit rock bottom before you realize to stop
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                    • nobs
                      Restricted User
                      • 08-31-09
                      • 4216

                      #11
                      Cant lose both
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                      • big joe 1212
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-01-08
                        • 19380

                        #12
                        guy is a joke!
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                        • wtf
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-22-08
                          • 12983

                          #13
                          did you pay your rent or not?
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                          • big joe 1212
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-01-08
                            • 19380

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wtf
                            did you pay your rent or not?
                            of course he didnt!

                            not a surprise!
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                            • sharpcat
                              Restricted User
                              • 12-19-09
                              • 4516

                              #15
                              Home team favs win at home by exactly 1 point in the range of 30% of the time I believe Long term this play seems to have expected value.

                              Note: long term which means that you would have to make this similar play repeatedly, just because a play has +EV does not justify unloading your bankroll on it. You are in the range of having a 30% chance of winning this bet roughly which is not the type of bet I would risk half of my bankroll on.
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                              • KingKolzig
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-02-10
                                • 5550

                                #16
                                this is not a bad bet at all. seattle wins a lot of close home games. i wouldnt recommend doing it all the time but i wonder what the odds would be of a 1 run game after 6 innings here. Maybe +225.........and if its close late i cant see a towering 2 run shot (at safeco) for seattle to win it. it would be a manufactured run. not a bad bet at all
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                                • nobs
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 08-31-09
                                  • 4216

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                  Home team favs win at home by exactly 1 point in the range of 30% of the time I believe Long term this play seems to have expected value.

                                  Note: long term which means that you would have to make this similar play repeatedly, just because a play has +EV does not justify unloading your bankroll on it. You are in the range of having a 30% chance of winning this bet roughly which is not the type of bet I would risk half of my bankroll on.
                                  Your not actually risking half your bankroll. One play is guaranteed to win.
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                                  • tltaylor89
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-19-09
                                    • 19610

                                    #18
                                    This is a -EV play because you have bills to pay.
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                                    • in2thethickofit
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-26-09
                                      • 2622

                                      #19
                                      I don't get it. Last night you had this BIG-ASS THREAD about how you could lose it all and had lots of guys pulling for you (myself included). Then you win the under in the Lakers game last night (1st half) and you can't even explain to all those pulling for you what happened...WTF, that is FUKED UP, man!

                                      How does this story end from the other thread?
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                                      • FreeFall
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-20-08
                                        • 3365

                                        #20
                                        you wanna explain how your risk is $290? And no it's not.
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                                        • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-29-08
                                          • 9283

                                          #21
                                          Freefall 290 is the maximum amount he stands to loose if only 1 event covers.
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                                          • DrStale
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-07-08
                                            • 9692

                                            #22
                                            You deserve to lose everything. Truth.
                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                            • Rich Boy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-01-09
                                              • 9714

                                              #23
                                              This is -EV, your fooling yourself if you think you can beat the books with a bogus scheme like this...

                                              Dont forget, this guy is a STIFF
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                                              • FreeFall
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-20-08
                                                • 3365

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                Freefall 290 is the maximum amount he stands to loose if only 1 event covers.
                                                Thanks, I'm used to at risk be everything at risk for the current position(s).
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                                                • tltaylor89
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-19-09
                                                  • 19610

                                                  #25
                                                  See what happens when to try to scheme.
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                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                    • 31794

                                                    #26
                                                    What a fvcking sick loser degenerate bastard. Imagine if this guy had decent sized BR. unreal .................
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                                                    • Domestic
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-10-09
                                                      • 6323

                                                      #27
                                                      This guy is either an idiot or a liar. Unbelievable.
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #28
                                                        i also want to know if the rent and other bills got paid

                                                        when you risk everything to get out of a hole and WIN i think you should consider it a sign, get out of the hole and don't do it again
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                                                        • coloradobuff
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-09
                                                          • 1488

                                                          #29
                                                          i need a smoke after that post
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            lol colorado
                                                            ok in some instances if it is a nice hole you might want to get back in it
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-06-06
                                                              • 71662

                                                              #31
                                                              So you lost $290. Congratulations.
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