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    2018 - RL/ML Chase for Baseball

    Trying a 3-game chase - Tony Chow (JM) system for the 2018 Baseball season

    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL. Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    Results so far:

    April 3rd:
    Rangers WON A bet
    Padres WON A bet
    Orioles LOST A bet

    April 4th:
    Giants WON A bet
    Orioles WON B bet

    April 5th:
    Phillies WON A bet

    chase-G1 (4-1)
    chase-G2 (1-0)
    chase-G3 (0-0)

    April 7th:
    Nats ML -160 A bet
    Marlins +RL -165 A bet

    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-10-18 at 10:05 AM. Reason: adding today's game odds

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    2018
    System to Date: 5-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +5.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 2 (Nats - 1.6, Marlins - 1.65)

    April 3rd:
    Rangers WON A bet
    Padres WON A bet
    Orioles LOST A bet

    April 4th:
    Giants WON A bet
    Orioles WON B bet

    April 5th:
    Phillies WON A bet

    April 7th:
    Nats LOST A bet

    Marlins LOST A bet


    April 8th:
    Dodgers A bet -- (ML -195)
    Nats B bet -- (ML - 160)
    Marlins B bet -- (RL - 135)

    G1 - (A) 4-3
    G2 - (B) 1-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0
    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-08-18 at 10:50 AM. Reason: adding odds

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    nice system! anyone have past results for this?

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    So far so good Winner. Thx for the thread

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    Guys, I am going to try and run two 3-game chase systems for this year. Post #1 is system one. This will be system 2.

    This system we will look for teams that has lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    Using this chase the results from the past few years...

    2017 54-0
    2016 46-5 (Losing Teams - Royals, Phillies, Rays, Twins, Angels)
    2015 52-5 (Losing Teams - Braves, Rockies, Tigers, Reds, Brewers)
    2014 53-2 (Losing Teams - Cubs -12.42, Rangers -8.39)
    2013 43-0
    2012 51-4 (Losing Teams -Astros (2), Indians, Rockies)
    2011 53-4 (Losing Teams - Twins, Mariners, O's, Padres)

    I will try to find RL data (or if someone knows where I can find it) to see what the losing units would have been for years where there were losses.

    This year the system is 2-0.

    SYSTEM #2
    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    April 4th:
    O's WON A bet

    April 8th:
    Marlins WON A bet
    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-13-18 at 09:24 AM. Reason: Calculate 2014 losses

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    This system we will
    look for teams that has lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the RL.
    I like your System #2 Looking4Winners. Although playing the favorites on the RL will keep the chase prices down, was wondering if just betting them SU might be worth it... if it prevented a loss or two? Thanks for the historical backtrack!
    Last edited by dumazz; 04-09-18 at 08:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumazz View Post

    I like your System #2 Looking4Winners. Although playing the favorites on the RL will keep the chase prices down, was wondering if just betting them SU might be worth it... if it prevented a loss or two? Thanks for the historical backtrack!
    My bad, I think I did not clarify. If the favorite you still would take them +RL. This price could get costly with the chase. That's why I was hoping to find historical RL data to see how many of the losing teams would have been favorites for the chase.

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 7-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +7.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (Nats - 4.16)

    April 3rd:
    Rangers WON A bet
    Padres WON A bet
    Orioles LOST A bet

    April 4th:
    Giants WON A bet
    Orioles WON B bet

    April 5th:
    Phillies WON A bet

    April 7th:
    Nats LOST A bet
    Marlins LOST A bet

    April 8th:
    Dodgers A bet

    Nats B bet

    Marlins B bet


    April 9th:
    Nats C bet -- (ML - 235)

    G1 - (A) 5-3
    G2 - (B) 2-1
    G3 - (C) 0-0

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that has lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    April 4th:
    O's WON A bet

    April 8th:
    Marlins WON A bet

    April 9th:
    No play

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    I have a lot of experience with chasing. I will tell you this does not work. System 1 or system 2 will/is not successful long term.

    You actually have it backwards for baseball. You need to chase that the events in question will continue not reverse.

    Also make sure you are chasing to win a very small percentage of your total bank. 1/2 of a percent for example. A chase lost will be super costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keel44 View Post
    I have a lot of experience with chasing. I will tell you this does not work. System 1 or system 2 will/is not successful long term.

    You actually have it backwards for baseball. You need to chase that the events in question will continue not reverse.

    Also make sure you are chasing to win a very small percentage of your total bank. 1/2 of a percent for example. A chase lost will be super costly.
    Thank you for saying this...

    April 9th:
    Nats C bet -- (ML - 235)

    this kind of juice will kill you in a chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keel44 View Post
    I have a lot of experience with chasing. I will tell you this does not work. System 1 or system 2 will/is not successful long term.

    You actually have it backwards for baseball. You need to chase that the events in question will continue not reverse.

    Also make sure you are chasing to win a very small percentage of your total bank. 1/2 of a percent for example. A chase lost will be super costly.
    Although I agree that that System #1 would probably end in disaster... here is the link to RKelly's 2017 thread:

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...all-picks.html

    ... there might be some merit to Looking4Winners System #2, especially if you made it into a 4 game chase. Sure, 8 game losing streaks are not all that uncommon in MLB BUT, the four previous losses are all by the RL AND the following 4 game chase would also be on the RL (at least for the dogs). Could turn out to be a profitable strategy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keel44 View Post
    I have a lot of experience with chasing. I will tell you this does not work. System 1 or system 2 will/is not successful long term.

    You actually have it backwards for baseball. You need to chase that the events in question will continue not reverse.

    Also make sure you are chasing to win a very small percentage of your total bank. 1/2 of a percent for example. A chase lost will be super costly.
    Keel - I agree that chases, if done, should be done with a very small percentage of your bankroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestBoyMike View Post
    Thank you for saying this...

    April 9th:
    Nats C bet -- (ML - 235)

    this kind of juice will kill you in a chase.
    BestBoyMike - You're absolutely correct. But some might elect to forgo the "C" bet and still be showing a few units profit.

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    And the Nats came through.....

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 8-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +8.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 5-3
    G2 - (B) 2-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet
    April 9th: Nats WON C bet


    April 10th: No Play


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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet

    April 10th: No play

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 8-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +8.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 5-3
    G2 - (B) 2-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet

    April 11th: No Play

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 2-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet

    April 11th: No play

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    Looking good so far👍

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    Very new to this but why wasnít Texas a play for system 1 last night? Hadnít they lost 3 SU and RL? And now 4 after last night. Just trying to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBlood View Post
    Very new to this but why wasn’t Texas a play for system 1 last night? Hadn’t they lost 3 SU and RL? And now 4 after last night. Just trying to understand.
    BlueBlood you are correct. Oversight on my part.

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 8-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +8.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (Rangers -1.05)
    G1 - (A) 5-4
    G2 - (B) 2-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet


    April 12th: No Play
    April 13th: Rangers B Play, Marlins A Play
    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-12-18 at 12:58 PM.

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 2-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet

    April 12th: No play
    April 13th: Rangers A play

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 8-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +8.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (Rangers -1.05)
    G1 - (A) 5-4
    G2 - (B) 2-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet


    April 13th:
    Rangers B Bet (+RL -101)
    Marlins A Bet (+RL -140)
    Royals A Bet (+RL -130)

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 2-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 2-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet

    April 13th: Rangers A Bet
    (+RL -101)
    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-13-18 at 09:07 AM.

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 11-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +11.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 7-4
    G2 - (B) 3-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet

    April 13th:Rangers WON B Bet
    , Marlins WON A Bet , Royals WON A Bet

    April 14th: Tigers A Bet (+RL -130)

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 3-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 3-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet
    April 13th: Rangers WON A Bet

    April 14th: No Play
    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 04-14-18 at 01:42 PM. Reason: Update G1 record

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 11-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +11.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 7-4
    G2 - (B) 3-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet

    April 13th:Rangers WON B Bet , Marlins WON A Bet , Royals WON A Bet

    April 15th: Reds A Bet (+RL -105), Tigers A Bet (PPD)

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 3-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 3-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet
    April 13th: Rangers WON A Bet

    April 15th: No Play

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 12-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +12.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 8-4
    G2 - (B) 3-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet

    April 13th: Rangers WON B Bet , Marlins WON A Bet , Royals WON A Bet
    April 15th: Reds WON A Bet

    April 16th No Play

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 3-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 3-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet
    April 13th: Rangers WON A Bet

    April 16th: No Play

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 12-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +12.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 8-4
    G2 - (B) 3-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet

    April 13th: Rangers WON B Bet , Marlins WON A Bet , Royals WON A Bet
    April 15th: Reds WON A Bet

    April 17th Orioles A Bet (ML -111), Tigers A Bet (+RL -165)

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    SYSTEM #2

    This system we will look for teams that have lost 4 games SU and against the RL. We will than start a 3-game chase. Whether a dog or favorite we will play the +RL.

    2018 System to Date: 3-0 (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    G1 - (A) 3-0
    G2 - (B) 0-0
    G3 - (C) 0-0


    April 4th: O's WON A bet
    April 8th: Marlins WON A bet
    April 13th: Rangers WON A Bet

    April 17th: No Play

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    SYSTEM #1
    Look for teams that lost 3 games in a row SU and RL.
    Start a 3 game chase. If the dog, bet on the +RL, if favorite take the ML.

    2018
    System to Date: 13-0
    (finished series)
    System Profit/Loss: +13.0 (finished series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (Orioles -111)

    G1 - (A) 9-5
    G2 - (B) 3-1
    G3 - (C) 1-0

    April 3rd: Rangers WON A bet , Padres WON A bet , Orioles LOST A bet
    April 4th: Giants WON A bet , Orioles WON B bet
    April 5th: Phillies WON A bet
    April 7th: Nats LOST A bet , Marlins LOST A bet
    April 8th: Dodgers WON A bet
    , Nats B bet , Marlins B bet

    April 9th: Nats WON C bet
    April 11th: Rangers LOST A Bet

    April 13th: Rangers WON B Bet , Marlins WON A Bet , Royals WON A Bet
    April 15th: Reds WON A Bet
    April 17th: Orioles A Bet , Tigers A Bet

    April 18th: Orioles B Bet (ML -119), White Sox A Bet (+RL -110)

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