Team with high hopes :

EJandV · 09-25-07, 05:53 PM

Honestly I feel going against all of these teams with good plus odds would be on the plus $ side tonight but I am sitting out . lean phils in NL east showdown. good odds taking dogs +1.5 in both AL games .

EJandV · 09-25-07, 06:03 PM

yesterday in the MLB 5 of the 7 dogs were $ , was no such thing as a fav .

BossRoss · 09-25-07, 06:43 PM

Yeah, when it comes to this time of season, not sure what you'll get out of the teams who aren't contending and think the best bets would have to be on one of these teams who still is in contention, I will add that I've had success with 2-teamers late in the year, as usually these teams are all mod-heavy favs and most of the time the team who needs to win will get it vs a team who's playing for pride, thats just me tho and playing parlays isn't very wise, but if you keep it to just 2 teams and take favs that should win, you'd be surprised how well the 2-teamers can do!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 06:54 PM

On the surface it would seem the Padres have been cursed .
Imagine you had the Padres wagered early on to win the NL West or the pennant or the WS .
Well , it would seem that is a cursed wager in the way they lost 2 of their best guys (Cameron and Bradley .
Fluke injuries to say the least .
So could this be a blessing in disguise ?
Will the guys that replace them be who knews with production ?
My take would be no , the Padres are toast .

JAHgger4noz · 09-25-07, 06:56 PM

I like the 2 teamers as well near the last weeks of baseball. One Total and one dog playing a struggling or moderately playing contending team.
Phillies is a tough take EJandV. Although they do not fall into the struggling or moderatelyy playing team (8-2 in their last 3 series), they are playing a contending team too who also happens to be hot (also 8-2 in their last 3 series).

The Padres seem to be having some Bad LAdy Luck these days. Not only the loss of those players, but Young hasnt been himself since coming off the DL. Sometimes it's timing as well. The 4 game losing skid they arre on, has allowed a streaking Phillies and Rockies team to be right there with them. Bad luck those 2 teams are on big winning streaks. They are definitely on the wrong end these days even though they are tied for the wild card spot. If they dont turn around quick, they will be sailing into the Pacific Ocean and may soon find themselves on Gilligans Island.
With their lack of offense, kinda makes me wonder why I took the Over against SF and Cain...oh well

Hoping tomko gets slaughtered maybe

EJandV · 09-25-07, 06:58 PM

Boss , yeah I love 2 teamers too . I dont feel comfortable (tonight) with going with these teams that are in the have to win position .
The huge flip side of what you are talking about is that the teams playing for nothing have less pressure .
What is a key to performing well >>> NO PRESSURE .
The teams that are under pressure can be at a disadvanatge playing the ones with little or no pressure .
I have learned this from too many results in past years .
When you think this team has to win so that means they will probably win ? (nope they lose very easily alot) I have been burnt alot like that ............

EJandV · 09-25-07, 07:00 PM

Jah , oh yeah no doubt , the Phils game is a straight up (ole days) lakers at celtics matchup . : ) my $ is safe tonight .

JAHgger4noz · 09-25-07, 07:25 PM

Playing for nothing and having less pressure is all irrelevant if they are not playing well now... in current situations....in present time. SOme team have been out of it with 'no pressure" since the all star break. U will find a few teams that play for pride and try to finish strong after a disappointing season...like Chisox, Minny, Toronto, Cincy.
Even when they are losing, it's close...u can see they want to finish in a positive note. And besides they are not losing in great bunches. Last week is the most interesting..some good action, and some good odds coming thru.

EJandV · 09-25-07, 07:34 PM

Let's say you have team A that needs to win to stay close in the wild card race or win the division , it doesn't matter which .
You need team A to make alot of money for that night .
Team B is playing with NO PRESSURE , that is not a factor for them while it is for team A .
You with me ?
Team B is up last , a guy comes up you never heard of , maybe you have , makes no difference , team A only needs 1 out and you make 5 grand for that night , okay , the guy for team B hits a grand slam you lose . (the # of things that can happen for US to lose is infinity , maybe the 3rd baseman boots the ball ...... tooooo many to even recall)
A simple 2 run homer if the grand slam is too melodramatic , , if he had pressure maybe he strikes out and you get paid ..........
Pressure means alot and does in fact determine things all throughout the game , to the whole gameplan by each manager .
The Big Picture of it is the key here , not 1 game you can talk about where your theory seemed to be correct .

EJandV · 09-25-07, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by JAHgger4noz

Playing for nothing and having less pressure is all irrelevant if they are not playing well now... in current situations....in present time. SOme team have been out of it with 'no pressure" since the all star break. U will find a few teams that play for pride and try to finish strong after a disappointing season...like Chisox, Minny, Toronto, Cincy.
Even when they are losing, it's close...u can see they want to finish in a positive note. And besides they are not losing in great bunches. Last week is the most interesting..some good action, and some good odds coming thru.

Is hard for me to respond to what you are saying , because it is sooooo much and there are many fine lines and exceptions to every rule ALWAYS ( ESP with a full board of mlb baseball games) going when you actually lay your $ down . It can in fact be very complex , just like it can go your way and you can say that was easy ........... . it can crumble like a cookie for a loss of money .
You would need to tell me who you like and after you tell me BACK IT WITH YOUR STRATEGY THINKING . You should know alot of my strategys because I post them . What you are saying about not backing a team when they are not playing well I agree with ................>>> but that in no way means the poor playing team WITH NO PRESSURE wont win tonight and play spolier >>>> ( what it really means in actual breakdown to find the definition it means they will merely be THE FAV .

BossRoss · 09-25-07, 07:53 PM

Yes, pressure plays a role, but these guys are all under pressure once they sign that multi-million dollar contract to perform, the thing I'm MOST interested in is MOTIVATION, a team with something to play for is motivated to play well, playing for pride just isn't as motivating as a world series ring, you know what i mean, and I don't mean take ALL the teams that need to win(Man I sure hope people aren't thinking I liked all those games I posted, just posted the team who should be MORE motivated) Some teams who are still in contention just aren't worthy right now and/or the matchups don't set-up well, I just feel strongly that a team with something to play for is much MUCH better off than a team who has nothing to play, it all boils down to focus and concentration and I'd rather throw down on a team I know will at least give %100(Thats the problem with capping the NBA, too many well paid hoodlums that only care about their next payday and not tonights ballgame and it's tough to know who will give it their all and who will pack it in) at least we know who SHOULD be motivated down the stretch in MLB!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 08:10 PM

Boss , right I agree , I do in actuality love going with the teams that are in must win scenarios , I love it !!!! It works sometimes is the best I can give it. If it worked like it should I would have wagered tonight .
It is looking okay at present time tonight going with that strategy . except mets losing , cubs losing , others looking good .

BossRoss · 09-25-07, 08:30 PM

Yeah, I didn't care much for tonights slate of favs either(I thought NYY were the best but Igawa???) I'm just putting the info out there so people can decide whats good for themselves...I HATE telling people what they should or shouldn't do, all I know is what works for me and what works for me works pretty damn well, I had a stint there where people were basically begging for the picks and man did I hate that, ust knowing some strangers are wagering thousands of dollars on my post, it was all too much for me and I went on hiatus and don't even post my best bets now for fear the same thing will happen and man you want to talk about pressure, how about trying not to lose thousands of dollars for complete strangers!!! When I bet I only bet 25-50 bucks, but I had some dudes saying they were putting 10 G's on my picks(It is the Internet, so they were probably full of it) but that was something that really bugged me and threw me off my game for a while and thats an extra weight nobody wants on their shoulders, I mean i think I'm pretty good and wouldn't mind losing my own money on a pick I thought was worthy but if I lost for someone else, it tore me up inside and thats something I just can not live with(I've told this to friends and family who want to lend me money to do this in Vegas) It's just different for me when I know I'm doing with somebody else's money and the added pressure is something I definitely could do without!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 08:36 PM

Boss , I feel ya . Adding pressures to ourself is one of note and worth examining big time ! Why we do that is pretty wild . We would like to be right no doubt for ourselves and others but omg !!! When we are wrong that is some shit to deal with inside ourselves and and and lol yeah is deep .

Man , I wish I lived in Vegas !!!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 08:54 PM

Jahgger , give me your MLB playoff picture ? Whos in and whos toast and will be watching from the sofa in 07 ? Is tough to call ............I know who I see advancing =
You guys give me your take ?

BossRoss · 09-25-07, 09:13 PM

Hey EJ, I think you should ask that question in its own thread, people might not see it down in this one and think thats a good question that'll get alot of replies!

P.S. VEGAS is sweet and will be even sweeter once I can get back down there now that I CAN SEE AGAIN, Vegas is NOT a city a blind dude should be living in and 2nd time around there for me will be like frickin' christmas!!!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 09:15 PM

You were blind ?

BossRoss · 09-25-07, 09:24 PM

Yeah, Technically I was Legally totally blind, had a cornea condition that caused my vision to become super-duper blurry(I couldn't recognize my own face in a mirror it was that blurry) but had cornea transplants in both eyes and am trying to earn my way back to vegas(I had moved there in 2000 but had to move back in 01' to get disability and the surgery done up here in SEA, now it's just a bitch finding work with the big gap in my work history and it's like I'm just out of High School again as I gotta start all over from square one(Yeah, it's pretty depressing) Once I get back there tho I got a few systems I KNOW will work and eventually will make myself a millionaire...Know anybody looking to hire a future millionaire? LOL!!!

EJandV · 09-25-07, 09:28 PM

no special place to brainstrom

Originally posted by BossRoss

Hey EJ, I think you should ask that question in its own thread, people might not see it down in this one and think thats a good question that'll get alot of replies!

P.S. VEGAS is sweet and will be even sweeter once I can get back down there now that I CAN SEE AGAIN, Vegas is NOT a city a blind dude should be living in and 2nd time around there for me will be like frickin' christmas!!!

Boss , I'm sure there will be plenty of thread created talking about the playoffs , you can type here and any thread , no special place .
Do you have a playoff picture yet ? Cubs or Brew win the Central ?

EJandV · 09-25-07, 09:28 PM

no special place to brainstorm

Originally posted by BossRoss

Hey EJ, I think you should ask that question in its own thread, people might not see it down in this one and think thats a good question that'll get alot of replies!

P.S. VEGAS is sweet and will be even sweeter once I can get back down there now that I CAN SEE AGAIN, Vegas is NOT a city a blind dude should be living in and 2nd time around there for me will be like frickin' christmas!!!

Boss , I'm sure there will be plenty of threads created talking about the playoffs , you can type here and any thread , no special place .
Do you have a playoff picture yet ? Cubs or Brew win the Central ?

EJandV · 09-25-07, 11:03 PM

Wow Ross ! thank God you can see again ! Talkiing about taking the normal things for granted.... I bet you appreciate the lil things now most people dont .
Yeah future millionaire would be a great hire !!!

EJandV · 09-26-07, 01:04 AM

Final results for this post : teams playing for something .
4 - 4
u-dog Braves won in the divison matchup .
count was 4- 4 evenly balanced result .

tues final count looks like 10 - 5 the DOGS DOMINATED THE BOARD !!!!! The Dogs won 6 of 8 in the NL .

NOTE : those who hit 2 team fav parlays were in the zoooone !!! Good job to say the least .

EJandV · 09-26-07, 01:18 AM

FAV WINS on tues out of 15 games . FULL BOARD OF MLB :
NL :
Pirates (-118) winner by 1 run .
Brew (-155) winner by 8 runs .

AL :
BJays (-138) winner by 7 runs .
RSox ( -220 ) winner by 4 runs .
Tigers ( -120) winner by 8 runs . >> little late !

so much for the favs huh , 5 fav wins out of 15 is pretty weak dont you think .

JAHgger4noz · 09-26-07, 05:24 AM

First off, a poor playing team with NO PRESSURE ...of course there is potential for them to play spoiler. But that is not enough means to back them with your $'s. When you're struggling, you ARE struggling and it doesnt matter if u are in a playoff hunt or looking to play spoiler. They cant just click it on and off as they please. How u perform in the present can be a true indicator of how u will perform in the near future.
Secondly BossRoss, when u post picks on a public forum for all to see, u will get people coming to u to make picks for them with thousands riding on it....especially when u are solid! There should be no pressure on u whatsoever. U have nothing to gain. I understand that in the back of your mind, someone out there is laying large based on your Public Pick and this could possibly alter in your decision making. But who cares. Dont even respond back to these people. Ask yourself this question, why did u post your Pick in the first place and continue posting them? Everyone has different reasons.

EJandV>>>my MLB playoff picture? I'm the last person u should be asking. My track record is not good as u can see from my Best Bet threads. Also, I havent had the time to handicap the playoffs. But my opinions are , the Mets are in a very difficult position. they are finding every possible means to lose. if the Phillies were not close to the wild card spot , I'd say they would overtake the Mets. But that wildcard spot is their cushion , so to speak. Although Mets have it easier by playing the Marlins in their last 3
games and being up by 2....phillies are playing like they want it, despite tuesdays lost. Only 2 teams, other than the Phillies, are also 2 games back of their division leader (brewers and SD) but only one is playing playoff baseball now. I'd rather back them than the other 2. Now after saying that, I still like the Brewers! Milw best chance is the division, not the wild card. And they happen to be playing SD in their last 3 while Cubbies play Cincy (who knows what to expect from that team) Im kinda still liking Milw. So if Milw holds up, that should be bad news for SD to win the division, which leaves Col as the possible back breaker to the D'backs. I like the D'backs to hold. Laa has it obviously , as does the Indians, bosox should hold.

JAHgger4noz · 09-27-07, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by EJandV

Jahgger , give me your MLB playoff picture ? Whos in and whos toast and will be watching from the sofa in 07 ? Is tough to call ............I know who I see advancing =
You guys give me your take ?

U know my take EJandV, so let us in who u see advancing with 3 important days left?

GL in your second stint back in Vegas BossRoss. Once is good enough for me. That city is too much for me. Too much of me as well

I like Reno though, away from the glitz and glamor but still have plenty of action for the degenerate gambler, like me (sorry louisvillekid, just had to steal your famous quote

)
I'd hire u...i'll pay u after we make the millions though

U and EJ should go into business, make a great tag team ...but dont let him hold the

or he may swindle it all away on parlays