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  • EXhoosier10
    SBR MVP
    • 07-06-09
    • 3122

    #1
    Baseball Prospectus
    Does anyone have a subscription to BP? I'm thinking about getting it, but haven't decided if its worth it since Im not able to actually read the articles.

    What about ESPN insider?
  • EXhoosier10
    SBR MVP
    • 07-06-09
    • 3122

    #2
    nobody has ESPN or BP subscriptions?
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    • Ian
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-09-09
      • 6071

      #3
      BP is probably the best resource for a sabermetric minded handicapper because the stats they create are far more useful in judging a player's worth than traditional stats like ERA, batting average, etc....

      If you're going to cap seriously I highly recommend getting a subscription.
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      • pinnerpsk
        SBR MVP
        • 03-16-09
        • 1687

        #4
        Originally posted by Ian
        BP is probably the best resource for a sabermetric minded handicapper because the stats they create are far more useful in judging a player's worth than traditional stats like ERA, batting average, etc.... If you're going to cap seriously I highly recommend getting a subscription.
        That may be the case but after seeing their pecota standing projections....I would prob hold ohh
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        • whatsgood5
          Restricted User
          • 10-13-09
          • 15359

          #5
          Don't have one, but I have been seriously considering it.
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          • sLim901
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-20-08
            • 985

            #6
            use to have bp...use to also have insider...

            insider is a waste of time imo...its more for the casual fan, but for the guys who already follow baseball heavily, they dont tell u anything that u dont already know except for gossip type of crap...

            bp also concentrates soley on baseball...
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            • EXhoosier10
              SBR MVP
              • 07-06-09
              • 3122

              #7
              why'd you stop your subscription to bp?
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              • dcb11
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-23-07
                • 849

                #8
                Is BP the best one out there cause i found some others.......

                2010 Baseball Forecaster (Ron Shandler's Baseball Forecaster)

                The Hardball Times Baseball Annual 2010

                also is there any good reading books out there on Baseball Sports Betting??
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                • Andy117
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-07-10
                  • 9511

                  #9
                  Originally posted by EXhoosier10
                  Does anyone have a subscription to BP? I'm thinking about getting it, but haven't decided if its worth it since Im not able to actually read the articles.

                  What about ESPN insider?
                  You can get a subscription to ESPN the mag (comes with insider) for $4.
                  Get sports coverage the way you want with ESPN magazine. With features on upcoming games, players and news, you'll always know the latest for boy's night.


                  use code 6365
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                  • Andy117
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-07-10
                    • 9511

                    #10
                    You can get 4 years for $16 too if you want to lock it up for a long time.
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                    • TheLock
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-06-08
                      • 14427

                      #11
                      ESPN the Magazine can't hold a candle to BProspectus for statistical data
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                      • IrishTim
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-23-09
                        • 983

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ian
                        BP is probably the best resource for a sabermetric minded handicapper because the stats they create are far more useful in judging a player's worth than traditional stats like ERA, batting average, etc....

                        If you're going to cap seriously I highly recommend getting a subscription.
                        Ian nailed it. Not that expensive and you can definitely get your money's worth.
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                        • mlb
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-04-09
                          • 10509

                          #13
                          Nice ... Might look into it thanks guts.
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                          • Ian
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-09-09
                            • 6071

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dcb11
                            also is there any good reading books out there on Baseball Sports Betting??
                            Not that I'm aware of.

                            The articles on the BP website and elsewhere on the net, however, can be used to create a successful methodology. That's how I figured out how to beat bases anyway.

                            FWIW, I eventually stopped capping baseball because it's more work, less fun, and less profitable than poker. That said, if you aggressively shop lines, understand randomness, and really comb through available sabermetric material you can beat baseball for a non-trivial amount long-term.
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                            • TheLock
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-06-08
                              • 14427

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ian
                              Not that I'm aware of.

                              The articles on the BP website and elsewhere on the net, however, can be used to create a successful methodology. That's how I figured out how to beat bases anyway.

                              FWIW, I eventually stopped capping baseball because it's more work, less fun, and less profitable than poker. That said, if you aggressively shop lines, understand randomness, and really comb through available sabermetric material you can beat baseball for a non-trivial amount long-term.


                              What is your winning percentage in poker (not to get too off-topic)?
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                              • Willie Bee
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-14-06
                                • 15726

                                #16
                                Agree with Slim on the ESPN Insider being a waste.

                                Have had a Baseball Prospectus subscription for several years now. I'm not a SABR geek, and get annoyed at how some of their stuff tries to break everything down into an end-all single column to justify some position. Anyone who thinks that ANY single column of baseball stats is an absolute is simple-minded, in my opinion. But overall the BP is a solid tool to have, whether your a big SABR geek or not.
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                                • Ian
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-09-09
                                  • 6071

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheLock
                                  What is your winning percentage in poker (not to get too off-topic)?
                                  At the time (2006) I was making over $150 an hour mostly multitabling 10/20 LHE 6max. on party with rakeback with some play up to 30/60 LHE full ring on other sites. Those days have sadly passed, good games at those limits don't exist anymore, but I still feel that off a bankroll of "X" one can make more with poker than baseball handicapping. I also enjoy poker more than capping bases, but that's strictly a personal preference.
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                                  • palmyjin
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-12-09
                                    • 105

                                    #18
                                    can't wait to start betting on mlb. Another month and half to go!!
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                                    • TheLock
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-06-08
                                      • 14427

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ian
                                      At the time (2006) I was making over $150 an hour mostly multitabling 10/20 LHE 6max. on party with rakeback with some play up to 30/60 LHE full ring on other sites. Those days have sadly passed, good games at those limits don't exist anymore, but I still feel that off a bankroll of "X" one can make more with poker than baseball handicapping. I also enjoy poker more than capping bases, but that's strictly a personal preference.


                                      I hear you in reference to the golden years of partypoker. Those were good times but sadly they are a thing of the past.
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                                      • konck
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-17-06
                                        • 12554

                                        #20
                                        ESPN suks
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                                        • pinnerpsk
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-16-09
                                          • 1687

                                          #21
                                          I cancelled my BP subscription this year after I saw the AL west predictions
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                                          • EXhoosier10
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-06-09
                                            • 3122

                                            #22
                                            Pinner, those rankings our amazingly awful. Oakland ahead of LAA? Oak over .500?? I'm saying no
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                                            • KENDRY
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-08-10
                                              • 91

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pinnerpsk
                                              I cancelled my BP subscription this year after I saw the AL west predictions
                                              I canceled mine too. The so-called "experts" are morons. I wish I could bet against these projections.
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