Yes, -152 is most I have ever laid on MLB game in my 16 years at SBR, previous high was -150
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#3
Any thoughts on Mets -1 -122?
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pilebuck13
SBR Posting Legend
05-15-15
17918
#4
Jesus I never thought I’d see the day LT…. What win percentage do you have them at?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#5
Forget run lines a bookmakers dream
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#6
Originally posted by pilebuck13
Jesus I never thought I’d see the day LT…. What win percentage do you have them at?
66% (-194)
-152 sounds kind of trappish, but I have Mikolas individually and Cardinals as a team both overrated, so we shall see.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#7
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Any thoughts on Mets -1 -122?
Given Post #6, I prefer the straight ML.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#8
LT what do you think about the Giants today?
+175 is getting pretty generous out there.
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#9
Originally posted by LT Profits
Given Post #6, I prefer the straight ML.
On it
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#10
Originally posted by KVB
LT what do you think about the Giants today?
+175 is getting pretty generous out there.
Disagree as I have Burnes 68% (-213)
This is listing Bullpen Day for Giants
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slayer14
SBR Posting Legend
08-12-13
22010
#11
mets total looks to low around 7 considering sherzer has been getting lit up
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#12
Originally posted by LT Profits
Disagree as I have Burnes 68% (-213)
This is listing Bullpen Day for Giants
Yeah, quite a bit of the market is Milwaukee, if only we could get the favorite to trad at -213.
I would find value on the dog in the contrarian model, I'm sure.
Personally, I forecast a much closer game here than many.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#13
1 MLB Pick Addition
3 MLB Plays Monday
Rockies / Phillies UNDER 8.5 -108
Red Sox +111
Mets -152
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#14
LT question, what do you factor after your first post to add plays?
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#15
Originally posted by Rich Boy
LT question, what do you factor after your first post to add plays?
Usually it's because the market moved into a spot that shows enough value to trigger plays.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#16
I took the UNDER in Texas.
Took 9 at -105 early, then 8.5 at -105, and then again 8 at (-104 and -103).
I could have filled the position at 8.5 and 9 for -115 type prices, could have done that, mathematically, no problem to a certain price limit.
But I played the market and points to the limit of my edge a different way. I allowed points to fall to pay a cheaper price. I knew which way this line would move, or better to say I had an idea of which way and I could measure a high degree of statistical signifcance as far as confidence in that line movment prediction, so made an investment plan.
For LT, it will be more like he's passing on a close one and then it moves into his favor. This is the most common reason for us to trigger a bet.
Regardless, never forget that the market can know about this effect on bettors and the originators and bookmakers will exploit these principles to generate the action they need or want when they need or want it.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#17
Mathematically, depending on the edge you are working with, those two methods of market entry can be virtually the same.
Truthfully, with the sample above, if you can get a good price initially, it will over time result in more profit. Kind of like buying a stock all at once for long term, or nipping away a at it. Research shows it can be better just to enter the market.
I am working on a way to overcome that difference with the pricing I seek.
One of the principles at work here and that I am experimenting with is that as the books raise their prices, they add in vigorish. Further, some books will exploit this even more, like in the LIVE markets, at opportune times.
Not much vig added between -108 and -113, but there are times where the difference is only the vig.
Think about it.
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dirtycash66
SBR MVP
04-13-12
2958
#18
Mets & 76er ML parlay is free money. Pays about even. You're welcome.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#19
Originally posted by Rich Boy
LT question, what do you factor after your first post to add plays?
Combo of line movement and lineup info.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#20
Another MLB Pick Addition
4 MLB Plays Monday
Rockies / Phillies UNDER 8.5 -108
Red Sox +111 Red Sox / Blue Jays UNDER 8.5 -110 (ACTION)
Mets -152
Last edited by LT Profits; 04-25-22, 04:16 PM.
Reason: Action book for Jays Under
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#21
Wow how did you snag -110
Pinny offering -126, still good?
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#22
Originally posted by LT Profits
Combo of line movement and lineup info.
And of course, the ever floating variable of lineup changes.
It's bleeding into the NBA, big time.
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takethepnts
SBR Wise Guy
10-18-13
585
#23
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Wow how did you snag -110
Pinny offering -126, still good?
Yep I see under 8.0 @ -110 but 8.5 is around 130 on 365 .
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82785
#24
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Wow how did you snag -110
Pinny offering -126, still good?
must be a typo. the line for that price is 8.
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#25
Well I took 8.5 -126
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takethepnts
SBR Wise Guy
10-18-13
585
#26
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Well I took 8.5 -126
Yes but not all of us are RICH boys tho 😉
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#27
Originally posted by Rich Boy
Wow how did you snag -110
Pinny offering -126, still good?
At 8.5 -126, would sell to Under 8
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#28
I double checked and yes Under 8.5 -110 was accepted at 3:43pm ET. Currently Under at 8 -103.
Sorry I moved the line so much
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#29
How much you laying on these totals jeez give the rest of us a chance loll
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#30
Originally posted by Rich Boy
How much you laying on these totals jeez give the rest of us a chance loll
If that was the case, all my Under bets would be moving This was just a case of lucky timing for me.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82785
#31
LT moved the line by 0.5 run.
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Rich Boy
SBR Hall of Famer
02-01-09
9714
#32
Books are on SBR waiting for LTs picks, moving lines seconds after
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TheLock
SBR Posting Legend
04-06-08
14427
#33
I wanted to play Cardinals but got distracted
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italianbandit
SBR MVP
05-17-11
2622
#34
Wow, this thread feels like SBR 2010. Good luck all.