An Alternateive to the UNDER bet: UNDER + Scoreless 1st Parlay....

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  • curious
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    • 07-20-07
    • 9093

    #1
    An Alternateive to the UNDER bet: UNDER + Scoreless 1st Parlay....
    I ran some numbers on how many times each game that went UNDER the total was scoreless in the first inning.

    I then calculated the $Won for the UNDER and the $Won for a parlay of the UNDER and the Scoreless 1st inning bet.

    For every team, except the Orioles and Cardinals, you are better off using a parlay of the UNDER and the scoreless 1st inning bet than you are betting the UNDER straight.

    There is definitely a correlation between the UNDER and the scoreless first inning.

    HOWEVER, people are complaining that offshore books don't allow this, I don't use offshore books so I dont' care what they do. So, if you use an offshore book and you can't play this way then use this for informational purposes.

    Here are the results:
    (Column 1=Team, Column 2=# of games that went UNDER, Column 3=$ Won on UNDER using bet to win $100, Column 4=# of games that went UNDER and the scoreless in the 1st inning bet won - NO="Score in first inning?", Column 5=$ Won parlaying UNDER and scoreless risking $100, Column 6=$Advantage over betting the UNDER straight, NOTE** The advantage is higher % wise because I used betting to win $100 on the UNDER and betting to risk $100 on the parlay).

    Team #U $Won #U+NO $Parlay W $ Advantage
    Angels 36 $3,600 23 $5,428 $1,828
    Astros 46 $4,600 21 $4,956 $356
    Athletics 41 $4,100 25 $5,900 $1,800
    Blue Jays 41 $4,100 23 $5,428 $1,328
    Braves 44 $4,400 28 $6,608 $2,208
    Brewers 40 $4,000 24 $5,664 $1,664
    Cardinals 44 $4,400 19 $4,484 $84
    Cubs 42 $4,200 23 $5,428 $1,228
    Dbacks 39 $3,900 29 $6,844 $2,944
    Dodgers 42 $4,200 22 $5,192 $992
    Giants 41 $4,100 28 $6,608 $2,508
    Indians 37 $3,700 24 $5,664 $1,964
    Mariners 47 $4,700 30 $7,080 $2,380
    Marlins 39 $3,900 18 $4,248 $348
    Mets 42 $4,200 22 $5,192 $992
    Nationals 42 $4,200 27 $6,372 $2,172
    Orioles 37 $3,700 14 $3,304 -$396
    Padres 41 $4,100 27 $6,372 $2,272
    Phillies 40 $4,000 21 $4,956 $956
    Pirates 43 $4,300 23 $5,428 $1,128
    Rangers 48 $4,800 25 $5,900 $1,100
    Rays 43 $4,300 26 $6,136 $1,836
    Red 42 $4,200 22 $5,192 $992
    Reds 44 $4,400 21 $4,956 $556
    Rockies 41 $4,100 25 $5,900 $1,800
    Royals 44 $4,400 23 $5,428 $1,028
    Tigers 46 $4,600 28 $6,608 $2,008
    Twins 46 $4,600 29 $6,844 $2,244
    White 47 $4,700 26 $6,136 $1,436
    Yankees 41 $4,100 24 $5,664 $1,564
  • DeeWizzle
    SBR MVP
    • 03-08-09
    • 3316

    #2
    Curious what book allows you to parlay the no score 1st inning with the under? 5dimes wont allow it.
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    • curious
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      • 07-20-07
      • 9093

      #3
      Originally posted by DeeWizzle
      Curious what book allows you to parlay the no score 1st inning with the under? 5dimes wont allow it.
      I dont use offshore books so I can't help you with that.
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      • bobbybux
        SBR Rookie
        • 02-28-09
        • 21

        #4
        i know betus does
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        • JerseyShop101
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          • 09-04-08
          • 2704

          #5
          Originally posted by bobbybux
          i know betus does
          I would think most would say its correlated.

          Does BetUs allow parlays of a Team total under and the Game Under? That might really be pushing it.
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          • curious
            Restricted User
            • 07-20-07
            • 9093

            #6
            Originally posted by JerseyShop101
            I would think most would say its correlated.

            Does BetUs allow parlays of a Team total under and the Game Under? That might really be pushing it.
            I would agree that team total under and under are correlated.

            But I think it is a stretch to say that scoreless first inning and UNDER are correlated. I dont' use offshore books so I don't really know what they do.
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            • curious
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              • 07-20-07
              • 9093

              #7
              Bodog

              I just tried the UNDER and scoreless first on Bodog and it was no problem.
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              • billdo75
                SBR Sharp
                • 05-11-09
                • 418

                #8
                Huh. I just tried it on Bodog and it wouldn't work:

                There is a problem with your wager
                MLB Team Props cannot be used in if bets, reverse bets or parlays.

                I noticed while trying to place a parlay with 2 different 1st inning props the other day that the Parlay button doesn't light up. This time, I tried adding both to My Picks, then parlaying them from there. Bummer...
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                • curious
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-20-07
                  • 9093

                  #9
                  Originally posted by billdo75
                  Huh. I just tried it on Bodog and it wouldn't work:

                  There is a problem with your wager
                  MLB Team Props cannot be used in if bets, reverse bets or parlays.

                  I noticed while trying to place a parlay with 2 different 1st inning props the other day that the Parlay button doesn't light up. This time, I tried adding both to My Picks, then parlaying them from there. Bummer...
                  I didn't fund the account, i just set the bet up, it let me do that, obviously I did not hit the button to actually make the wager. So, I'll take your word for it.
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                  • stats13
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-29-09
                    • 1687

                    #10
                    so you have a local that takes 1st half score or not props? wtf?

                    if you aren't even making this bets and consider this informational, well, ok

                    I would also submit that nba 1st quarter unders parlayed with game unders, nfl, nhl, etc etc are "winners"
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                    • curious
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-20-07
                      • 9093

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stats13
                      so you have a local that takes 1st half score or not props? wtf?

                      if you aren't even making this bets and consider this informational, well, ok

                      I would also submit that nba 1st quarter unders parlayed with game unders, nfl, nhl, etc etc are "winners"
                      I don't know what a 1st half score or not is. I guess you meant 1st inning score or not.

                      I said I don't bet on online sports books. What I do or don't do with other betting outlets you are free to guess.

                      Never heard of a 1st quarter under.

                      After people started complaining that they can't make the parlay bet I was discussing I changed the post to say that the statistics indicate that the two bets are correlated and you should use that for informational purposes.
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                      • stats13
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-29-09
                        • 1687

                        #12
                        haha so under 1st inning is correlated to under for the game. wow. awesome info

                        seriously if you don't lol at how impotent this "knowledge" is, you are well... challenged

                        and the fact you don't know what a 1st quarter nba under is just screams all kinds of not knowing anything

                        why dont you go ahead and run the same sim on YES 1st inning score parlayed with over
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                        • JerseyShop101
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                          • 09-04-08
                          • 2704

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stats13
                          haha so under 1st inning is correlated to under for the game. wow. awesome info

                          seriously if you don't lol at how impotent this "knowledge" is, you are well... challenged

                          and the fact you don't know what a 1st quarter nba under is just screams all kinds of not knowing anything

                          why dont you go ahead and run the same sim on YES 1st inning score parlayed with over
                          Be nice stats.

                          If you go back and read curious' other posts he has put a ton of information out there to help fellow posters. And we know that he really meant well with this one also.
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                          • therber2
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                            • 12-22-08
                            • 3715

                            #14
                            What is your normal strategy for score/scoreless props?
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                            • Wilforth
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                              • 05-10-08
                              • 16309

                              #15
                              Curious,

                              Good 2 see u again.
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                              • stats13
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-29-09
                                • 1687

                                #16
                                Apologies for being a dick earlier- I was. I appreciate the effort that curious made, but what he said was basically obvious. It's kinda like saying the team thats winning at halftime usually wins the game. I understand an inning is only 1/9th of a game, not 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/2, but its still a good part and good judgement on the start of the game and how it'll go.
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                                • Panekkkk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-12-09
                                  • 2430

                                  #17
                                  While it may seem obvious to someone of your grandeur stats13, the point is that there is more money to be made if you parlay the two together rather than play simply the under straight. That actually is useful information.
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                                  • stats13
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-29-09
                                    • 1687

                                    #18
                                    find me one book on earth that allows you to parlay these
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