When do "dime lines" start to separate?

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  • StackinGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-09-10
    • 12140

    #1
    When do "dime lines" start to separate?
    I see some linemakers have $.10 spreads in the low to middle 100s but see frequently where there is discrepancy on when it starts to get up to .20 difference or more. Sometimes it goes .15, sometimes a full .20 by -170 price (+150 dog).

    Anyone have a standard against which one can say what a "dime line" is as opposed to twenty center?

    Thanks in advance
  • StackinGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-09-10
    • 12140

    #2
    ^ bump

    No standard answer?
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    • SAX27
      SBR MVP
      • 07-03-15
      • 1324

      #3
      Hard to answer, books always looking for their angle. Angles seem to work for the books.

      My local & I have an agreement, 10 cent lines on anything less than -200, 20 cent lines on -200 or higher. Feel like I have a bit of an edge...but...so far this year 54% puts me at a slight minus for the MLB season YTD.
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      • hotcross
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-04-17
        • 7934

        #4
        I don't have the facts right at my fingertips. But here are some of today's actual lines at a VERY low-vig book I'm using (so these probably tighter than commonly found / other books I've used in the past have been more difference as the favorite moneyline increases):

        Miami +271 at NY Yankees -300

        Colorado +116 at Pittsburgh -126

        Kansas City +188 at Toronto -205

        Texas +165 at Tampa -180

        Washington +156 at NY Mets -169

        Philadelphia -120 at Atlanta +110

        Cincinnati +119 at Milwaukee -129

        Chicago W.Sox +130 at Oakland -141

        Houston -110 at Seattle +101

        LA Dodgers -139 at San Diego +127
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        • StackinGreen
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-09-10
          • 12140

          #5
          Originally posted by SAX27
          Hard to answer, books always looking for their angle. Angles seem to work for the books.

          My local & I have an agreement, 10 cent lines on anything less than -200, 20 cent lines on -200 or higher. Feel like I have a bit of an edge...but...so far this year 54% puts me at a slight minus for the MLB season YTD.
          I suspected the menu got changed a little, mine was more along your lines, which I get, but then I saw -170s were associated with +150s ... I don't think that's common, is it?

          Yeah hotcross ... the ones I'm interested in are prices approaching -160 to -190 ... and the associated dog. Your Toronto line is still within .17 cents ...
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          • hotcross
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-04-17
            • 7934

            #6
            my Mets line only 13 cents, and the Oakland line only 11 cents. Pretty sure other books would have these at 15 to 20 cents at those levels.

            Tampa only 15 cents at -180, that definitely would be 20 cents at most books.
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            • fecgp40
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-01-11
              • 5750

              #7
              Originally posted by StackinGreen
              I suspected the menu got changed a little, mine was more along your lines, which I get, but then I saw -170s were associated with +150s ... I don't think that's common, is it?

              Yeah hotcross ... the ones I'm interested in are prices approaching -160 to -190 ... and the associated dog. Your Toronto line is still within .17 cents ...
              I use 5dimes, and the 160-190 range are still within .10 for me.
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              • StackinGreen
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-09-10
                • 12140

                #8
                Here are examples today:

                Pirates -143/Rockies +133, all lower than that are dime lines, then
                Brewers -160/Reds +145
                LA/Bos -170/+150
                Cle/Min -180/+160

                Don't understand why separation is 15 then 20 definitively at -170 or higher ... but looking at vegasinsider I see that it's not that far off vegas books, I'm guessing the offshore are almost always superior too
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                • hotcross
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-04-17
                  • 7934

                  #9
                  for sure offshore better lines than Vegas, especially on Totals for baseball
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                  • jtoler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30967

                    #10
                    noobish question
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                    • Ralphie Halves
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-13-09
                      • 4507

                      #11
                      Don't be fooled....

                      Even if the lines start to separate, the house take can remain similar, and will even go up sometimes.

                      For example

                      Cards -130
                      Reds +120

                      House edge = 1.94%

                      So once those lines grow and start to get further apart, your edge goes up, right?

                      Cards -210
                      Reds +190

                      House edge = 2.18%

                      Nope.

                      If you wanna play around with the odds -- https://wizardofodds.com/games/sport...es-calculator/
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                      • StackinGreen
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-09-10
                        • 12140

                        #12
                        Got it
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