what's up with Nats / O's line?

Rbyrne · 05-08-17, 04:50 PM

Only a matter of time before Gausman turns it around, him and bundy r the 2 best starters the Os have....Gio is average but has been pitching really good lately.

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 04:51 PM

they're begging u to take the nats

The Hat · 05-08-17, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Rbyrne

Only a matter of time before Gausman turns it around, him and bundy r the 2 best starters the Os have....Gio is average but has been pitching really good lately.

I agree that Gausman's ERA and WHIP are bound to drop... Bundy is irrelevant to this game and line. Gio is pitching good lately and is a proven veteran. Gausman is still facing the best offensive team in many categories tonight...

Just wondering how the O's are favored..... and it's not because the books are 'spot guessing' Gausman's turn around performance

The Hat · 05-08-17, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

they're begging u to take the nats

Obviously, but why?

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 04:55 PM

also if u look at the 4 games series at home gio vs gausman is the best chance the O's have at winning. tomorrow u got mad max vs jim, then strasburg vs miley ending with turner vs bundy but nats will be at home for that game.

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 04:56 PM

line looks right to me slight edge for O's at home bettter pitching and the nats offense wasn't that great last week

BigOrange · 05-08-17, 04:57 PM

Nats don't play well in Baltimore and they have the worst bullpen in MLB. GIO will need to go 8 innings for them to have a good chance tonight.

The Hat · 05-08-17, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

also if u look at the 4 games series at home gio vs gausman is the best chance the O's have at winning. tomorrow u got mad max vs jim, then strasburg vs miley ending with turner vs bundy but nats will be at home for that game.

maybe the best chance at winning but the ensuing series games are irrelevant to tonight's line...

Gio is facing a heavy right handed lineup tonight, but his individual history vs each batter fares much better than Gausman's history vs Nats batters

The Hat · 05-08-17, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

line looks right to me slight edge for O's at home bettter pitching and the nats offense wasn't that great last week

better pitching?? well, it's not the O's starter that's better, that's for sure.... bullpen may be better, but Zach is out, right?

Rbyrne · 05-08-17, 05:01 PM

I rather bet the Nats tomorrow and fade Ubaldo Jimenez....I think the Orioles win tonight I trust Gausman to turn it around soon and he def has a fresh arm after the bush league ejection in the 2nd inning on a curveball...they have the better bullpen even with Britton on the dl....nats bullpen is very unimpressive.

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 05:03 PM

then bet nats, all i know is last 2 starts gio has been very fortunate with great defence behind him, in arizona he stranded 19 batters thats not gonna keep happening. goodluck on whatever u decide to do, but it sounds like ur mind is already made up. just here giving u reasons why the nats r dogs on the road against a good pitch in a rival ballpark.

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 05:03 PM

gausman is better than Gio

The Hat · 05-08-17, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Rbyrne

I rather bet the Nats tomorrow and fade Ubaldo Jimenez....I think the Orioles win tonight I trust Gausman to turn it around soon and he def has a fresh arm after the bush league ejection in the 2nd inning on a curveball...they have the better bullpen even with Britton on the dl....nats bullpen is very unimpressive.

I hear ya....just think Gausman will need to turn it around vs a Kansas City lineup or someone other than the Nats

The Hat · 05-08-17, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

then bet nats, all i know is last 2 starts gio has been very fortunate with great defence behind him, in arizona he stranded 19 batters thats not gonna keep happening. goodluck on whatever u decide to do, but it sounds like ur mind is already made up. just here giving u reasons why the nats r dogs on the road against a good pitch in a rival ballpark.

I'm already on the Nats...I don't need validation for who to play....was just trying to figure out what was going on with the number

stevenash · 05-08-17, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

they're begging u to take the nats

I just broke that game down for 30 minutes.
The only reason why the O's could possibly be favored is because they are home.

And to expand upon The Hat'a post,
Gausman is one of the major leagues worst starter this year versus RH batters, .338 BA and and ungodly 1.103 OPS.

I'm hearing Gausman is due, that may very well be, but I've seen many a bankroll crippled betting "they are (or he's) due" theory.
Until proven otherwise, Gausman is a fade or pass.

Also Balty strikes out the most in the majors versus LH pitchers.

Splits: Left

Sortable Batting
RK	TEAM	SO	BB	HBP	IBB	SB	CS	SB%	SH	SF	CI
1	Baltimore	105	30	2	0	1	0	100.00	0	3	0
2	Colorado	105	23	2	0	1	1	50.00	2	1	0
3	San Francisco	104	44	2	1	4	1	80.00	2	5	0
4	Tampa Bay	100	52	5	2	4	1	80.00	1	1	0
5	LA Dodgers	92	47	5	1	4	2	66.67	8	4	0
6	Arizona	92	29	4	2	12	4	75.00	3	0	0
7	Cleveland	88	50	4	2	2	4	33.33	5	3	1
8	San Diego	81	30	1	1	5	2	71.43	4	3	0
9	Minnesota	78	39	3	2	0	1	0.00	1	3	0
10	Milwaukee	75	28	2	2	5	1	83.33	0	1

I preach don't let the line mind fukc you, if you like a side, bet the side, I like Washington, if I am wrong so be it.
On paper, this should be Nats in a romp.

The Hat · 05-08-17, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

then bet nats, all i know is last 2 starts gio has been very fortunate with great defence behind him, in arizona he stranded 19 batters thats not gonna keep happening. goodluck on whatever u decide to do, but it sounds like ur mind is already made up. just here giving u reasons why the nats r dogs on the road against a good pitch in a rival ballpark.

stranded 19 batters? he allowed 3 hits and 7 walks in that game

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 05:25 PM

he left 9 on base that was a typo

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 06:20 PM

what do the numbers say about gio gettin shat on in the first inning?

stevenash · 05-08-17, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by MrAllin

what do the numbers say about gio gettin shat on in the first inning?

Shat on? He got whipped like a rented mule.
I though O'Brien was going to orgasm when Trumbo tomahawked that homer.

Now, do the Nats fold up shop or do they battle is the question

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 06:32 PM

nats r gonna battle, but they gonna need alot of help from the pen, like was said already nats bullpen isnt their strongest option

Rbyrne · 05-08-17, 06:34 PM

I just had a gut feeling oriole's would win which is a why I took them...Gio was over due for a bad start and the Orioles have hit him in the past. But as another poster said I could tell you already had your mind made up that you were gonna bet on the Nats. I know it's 4-0 early and anything could happen but doesn't look good after giving up 3 home runs in one inning.

The Hat · 05-08-17, 06:35 PM

the good thing about baseball being such an individually based game is that every batter is gonna battle regardless of the score....whether it's for their own personal stat benefit or for the team

The Hat · 05-08-17, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Rbyrne

I just had a gut feeling oriole's would win which is a why I took them...Gio was over due for a bad start and the Orioles have hit him in the past. But as another poster said I could tell you already had your mind made up that you were gonna bet on the Nats. I know it's 4-0 early and anything could happen but doesn't look good after giving up 3 home runs in one inning.

the thread was geared toward why the line was where it was.....was looking for more than hunch.... was strictly a number curiosity for me.... I'm not one of these defense lawyers that tries to defend and back a team regardless of the situation being good or bad

MrAllin · 05-08-17, 06:41 PM

the hat, we all told u gio was pitching above his performance level and that Gausman was pitching under his performance level. thats not a hunch thats backed by numbers from past seasons