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  • patsfan2727
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-28-07
    • 579

    #1
    Runlines -1.5
    Is it me, or are runlines a total scam? From my experience, when a ML is too steep to play (-180 or higher) I usually go for the RL, which is typically at -110 to +120 for a big favorite. However the higher the ML, the less likely the RL seems to hit. anybody have a similar experience here?
  • patsfan2727
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-28-07
    • 579

    #2
    I'm breaking down yesterday's runlines....home favorite runlines seem to be particularly crappy...

    13 games....

    3 away RL's were 1-2
    10 home RL's were 4-6


    The largest ML home favorites (det -150, atl-187, tb -155, kc -230, sf -175)

    went 2-3 on the RL
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    • smitch124
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-19-08
      • 12566

      #3
      Its not a scam, its just another market with it's efficiencies and inefficiencies
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      • Mudcat
        Restricted User
        • 07-21-05
        • 9287

        #4
        It's like everything else. There is a winner and a loser every time.


        RL's are going better for me than everything else so far this baseball season. That is not typical for me but that has been the case so far this year.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82813

          #5
          I only play alternate run lines. When I like a dog at +120 or better I play the alt run line for +200 or better.
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          • Bostongambler
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-01-08
            • 35581

            #6
            I always take+1.5 or even 2.5 runs. It is hard enough to win a game let alone win one by 2.
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            • Bread
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-16-08
              • 23726

              #7
              I am learning to absolutely, and categorically, and systematically, and undeniably...hate baseball this year.

              And that's that!

              I'd like to thank Joe Nathan for doing his part to add to this evolving, yet absolute hate.

              Here's to you Joe Nathan
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              • patsfan2727
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-28-07
                • 579

                #8
                thanks for the input. bottom line is when you can get a home favorite at + money, it seems to good to be true, and usually is...
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                • BeatTheJerk
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-19-07
                  • 31794

                  #9
                  70-80 % of all games end in two runs or more ...................... so no it's not a scam.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Also remember that is SHOULD be harder for home team to cover -1.5 because of lost at-bats in ninth inning.
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                    • BestPlay2day
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-08
                      • 5794

                      #11
                      If moneyline is high, I will make 2 separate bets to make a -1 runline so I would just push if the favorite wins by only 1 run.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Yeah I wish more books offered the -1
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                        • Kav
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-25-09
                          • 3281

                          #13
                          what books do offer -1?
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                          • Enforcer_23
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 04-06-09
                            • 470

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kav
                            what books do offer -1?
                            Pinnacle
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                            • patsfan2727
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-28-07
                              • 579

                              #15
                              what is the juice like on a -1 bet?
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Check 5 Dimes for -1 lines, they might have them.

                                RL for the most part are sucker bets
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                                • Kav
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-25-09
                                  • 3281

                                  #17
                                  nah i use 5dimes they dont got -1 lines.
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                                  • Fiasco
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-02-08
                                    • 2406

                                    #18
                                    you can create the -1 yourself...
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                                    • RonPaul2008
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-08-07
                                      • 6741

                                      #19
                                      runlines are not a scam..they are 2 sided, so if one side was really awful you could just take the other side. Only way it could be a scam is if there was a much bigger spread than moneyline or it was only one sided.
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                                      • SmartBetzdotCom
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 05-16-09
                                        • 9

                                        #20
                                        Check out this link. It'll help you calculate the risk/reward and analyze whether or not a runline is a smarter bet than a moneyline. From my experiences, if the moneyline is too expensive and you don't predict a blowout, don't bet on that game unless it's to fill a parlay or something. At the end of the day, runlines are great for huge mismatches and it's the only way you can get priced in to bet.
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                                        • Dexter
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-24-08
                                          • 25829

                                          #21
                                          here are some rules/autobets ive put in place for run lines

                                          -when i do play a favorite on the monelyline for -1.5, i will not lay any vig higher then -110 AutoBets

                                          1) i will play on any underdog getting 1.5 runs and who is a dog or favored by no more then -110 on the moneyline.
                                          2) i will play 2x or more on an underdog at +1.5 on the runline when the game total is 7.5 or less at any point during the day. However, i will not lay more then -150.
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                                          • d2bets
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 39995

                                            #22
                                            Then bet the +1.5
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                                            • RonPaul2008
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-08-07
                                              • 6741

                                              #23
                                              too many rules

                                              Originally posted by Dexter
                                              here are some rules/autobets ive put in place for run lines

                                              -when i do play a favorite on the monelyline for -1.5, i will not lay any vig higher then -110 AutoBets

                                              1) i will play on any underdog getting 1.5 runs and who is a dog or favored by no more then -110 on the moneyline.
                                              2) i will play 2x or more on an underdog at +1.5 on the runline when the game total is 7.5 or less at any point during the day. However, i will not lay more then -150.
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                                              • Dexter
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-24-08
                                                • 25829

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                                too many rules
                                                i know....1 whole rule and 2 systems. crazyiness!!

                                                did i confuse you ronpaul?
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                                                • Willie Bee
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                  • 15726

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                                  Is it me, or are runlines a total scam? From my experience, when a ML is too steep to play (-180 or higher) I usually go for the RL, which is typically at -110 to +120 for a big favorite. However the higher the ML, the less likely the RL seems to hit. anybody have a similar experience here?
                                                  No, I don't think they're a scam at all. I've been tracking some of the numbers lately because I thought I was noticing fewer 1-run games than the norm. Sure enough, the number of 1-run games sit in the 18%-24% range in recent weeks as opposed to the 30% and higher that I'm used to seeing.

                                                  It also breaks down to the few 1-run games we have seen are being won more often than not by the underdog, not the favorite, about 58%-60% of the time.

                                                  Also, there's a misconception that the higher the moneyline, the greater the frequency of the favorite covering a runline. Remember, this is still on any given night MLB baseball. Try looking at situations when the ML is in the -140 to -180 range instead of the -180 and higher mark.
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