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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #36
    Originally posted by LT Profits
    Reed actually grades out above average, model total is only 8.8.
    Should say very slightly above average. Model rate him a 98, so 2% better than average. Koehler is one of the worst at 121.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #37
      And while we were talking, Reds became scalpable at Pinny with Miami now -144.
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #38
        Originally posted by LT Profits
        And you have no concept of sabermetics and value, just a quick check of FIP and xFIP without digging any deeper should be enough to show Reed is better. Then again, most of the league is better than Koehler (refer to sixth worst xFIP in majors).
        So when you lose this play, will you say "damn, the stats said I should have won"?
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        • Altern8
          SBR High Roller
          • 07-04-16
          • 130

          #39
          What do you think of the Over/Under in Tor/Det? Messed up yesterday with the over on LA had it in a parlay with Brock Lesnar
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          • funnyb25
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-09-09
            • 39663

            #40
            Originally posted by LT Profits
            Should say very slightly above average. Model rate him a 98, so 2% better than average. Koehler is one of the worst at 121.
            Very slightly? is this similar to smallish big? lol
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #41
              Originally posted by Brock Landers
              So when you lose this play, will you say "damn, the stats said I should have won"?
              I already have the best of it as I have +152 and Miami is now -144 (Reds +133). So I already did my job. So if i lose this play, so be it, but over time it is a winning play.

              I also mentioned last week that it seems I am beating the closing line at a simialar rate this year as I did last year. So using the exact same approach with a seemingly good model, you don't just go from +93 one year to -13 the next, so I am expecting a big second half this year.
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #42
                Originally posted by funnyb25
                Very slightly? is this similar to smallish big? lol
                Whatever you want to call 2% better than average pitcher.
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                • newbie64
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 06-08-14
                  • 339

                  #43
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  Reed actually grades out above average, model total is only 8.8.
                  Sure lets all follow THE MODEL and be in the red
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #44
                    Originally posted by newbie64
                    Sure lets all follow THE MODEL and be in the red
                    Are you new here?
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                    • Brock Landers
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 06-30-08
                      • 45359

                      #45
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      I already have the best of it as I have +152 and Miami is now -144 (Reds +133). So I already did my job. So if i lose this play, so be it, but over time it is a winning play.

                      I also mentioned last week that it seems I am beating the closing line at a simialar rate this year as I did last year. So using the exact same approach with a seemingly good model, you don't just go from +93 one year to -13 the next, so I am expecting a big second half this year.
                      So the results of the game are irrelevant, you are happy that an inefficient market came out with a lower line than you got.

                      Ok, the next time you get paid off on a losing ticket, let me know
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                      • newbie64
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 06-08-14
                        • 339

                        #46
                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                        Are you new here?
                        Just watch your better pitcher and see the edge
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                        • JayDr3am
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-06-14
                          • 18260

                          #47
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          I already have the best of it as I have +152 and Miami is now -144 (Reds +133). So I already did my job. So if i lose this play, so be it, but over time it is a winning play.

                          I also mentioned last week that it seems I am beating the closing line at a simialar rate this year as I did last year. So using the exact same approach with a seemingly good model, you don't just go from +93 one year to -13 the next, so I am expecting a big second half this year.
                          i was just fixing to the say that.. you did get the best of reds line which is all that matters in the end.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Brock Landers
                            So the results of the game are irrelevant, you are happy that an inefficient market came out with a lower line than you got.

                            Ok, the next time you get paid off on a losing ticket, let me know
                            MLB is an EFFICIENT market, as are all major sports.
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #49
                              Originally posted by JayDr3am
                              i was just fixing to the say that.. you did get the best of reds line which is all that matters in the end.
                              Funny, I thought the name of the game was cashing winners .

                              You can also tell me about the next time you try to cash a losing ticket
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                              • Brock Landers
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 06-30-08
                                • 45359

                                #50
                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                MLB is an EFFICIENT market, as are all major sports.
                                Nonsense, line moves are wrong just as often as they are right
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                  Nonsense, line moves are wrong just as often as they are right
                                  Totally False, but than again, you don't care about odds anyway and thus will never be a long-term winner.

                                  Carry on.
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                                  • Brock Landers
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45359

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    Totally False, but than again, you don't care about odds anyway and thus will never be a long-term winner.

                                    Carry on.
                                    Prove to me where your statement is correct
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                                    • JayDr3am
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-06-14
                                      • 18260

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                      Funny, I thought the name of the game was cashing winners .

                                      You can also tell me about the next time you try to cash a losing ticket
                                      LOL funny guy.. cashing winners is the name of the game brock... but if you are a everyday/weekly wagerer and you flat bet the same amount, it is essential to get a bang for your buck sort of speak. its like when you go grocery shopping and you try getting the best deals on cereal or steaks packages or going to best buy on black friday
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                                      • funnyb25
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 07-09-09
                                        • 39663

                                        #54
                                        LT it's good to see you fired up today! Lets go!
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                                        • funnyb25
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 07-09-09
                                          • 39663

                                          #55
                                          LT has 8 plays today, but only 5 in contest... i get the first 5 innings wouldnt be in the contest, but where are the other 2?
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                                          • CanuckG
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-23-10
                                            • 21978

                                            #56
                                            Brock who is down 300k lifetime should be the last to talk
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                                            • mikefan1034
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-29-12
                                              • 2448

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by funnyb25
                                              LT has 8 plays today, but only 5 in contest... i get the first 5 innings wouldnt be in the contest, but where are the other 2?
                                              He's down 42 units lol
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                                              • mikefan1034
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-29-12
                                                • 2448

                                                #58
                                                Brock
                                                Landers is the biggest joke going. He's worst then Lakerboy and twizzle combined. Guy looks like a straight hamburger
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                                                • funnyb25
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 07-09-09
                                                  • 39663

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by mikefan1034
                                                  Brock
                                                  Landers is the biggest joke going. He's worst then Lakerboy and twizzle combined. Guy looks like a straight hamburger
                                                  show me pic
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                    Prove to me where your statement is correct
                                                    The onus would be on someone to prove that it is NOT efficient. You start with the assumption that a major sport with a big betting limits is efficient.
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                                                    • LT Profits
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                      • 90963

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                      LT has 8 plays today, but only 5 in contest... i get the first 5 innings wouldnt be in the contest, but where are the other 2?
                                                      The two Under plays were -125 in contest so I passed.
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #62
                                                        By the way guys, I am now about one hour away from the Poconos, once we arrive I will most likely be offline until Thursday.
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                                                        • Brock Landers
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 45359

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                          Brock who is down 300k lifetime should be the last to talk
                                                          300K huh

                                                          Where the fuckk you getting that?
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                                                          • Brock Landers
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 06-30-08
                                                            • 45359

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            The onus would be on someone to prove that it is NOT efficient. You start with the assumption that a major sport with a big betting limits is efficient.
                                                            good answer....exactly what i would expect someone to say who knows he can't back it up
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                                                            • funnyb25
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-09-09
                                                              • 39663

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                              By the way guys, I am now about one hour away from the Poconos, once we arrive I will most likely be offline until Thursday.
                                                              You are in PA? Is this the reason for the Nola love?
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                                                              • LT Profits
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-27-06
                                                                • 90963

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                good answer....exactly what i would expect someone to say who knows he can't back it up
                                                                Because I don't need to. It is assumed efficient unless proven otherwise. Give it a shot.

                                                                Besides, just look at my results last year, games where I beat the closer by a normal amount were over +100 units. The anomaly was plays where I CRUSHED the closer by 40 points + had a losing record, but overall still a great record when beating closers. And I finished with around 1300 total plays.
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                                                                • JayDr3am
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-06-14
                                                                  • 18260

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                  By the way guys, I am now about one hour away from the Poconos, once we arrive I will most likely be offline until Thursday.
                                                                  hell yeah make sure you hit the zip lines LT! have fun my man
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                                    You are in PA? Is this the reason for the Nola love?
                                                                    I am in PA but has nothing to do with Nola. I don't even get Phillies on TV, blacked out on DirecTV and their local station not carried.
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                                                                    • funnyb25
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 07-09-09
                                                                      • 39663

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                                      Why isnt the OVER a play?
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      Reed actually grades out above average, model total is only 8.8.

                                                                      LOL...OVER was easy...Reed...eh...next time..
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                                                                      • marley33
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 09-11-07
                                                                        • 460

                                                                        #70
                                                                        While all this arguing has gone on I have already hit my over 9 in the Reds Marlins game. Carry-on...

                                                                        #SnappinNecksCashinChecks
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