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honestly i lean brewers. but its not a strong feeling. those on tonites nats lineup fiers has faced before are 1/18...small sample size but i dunno. could go either way. i think you should follow your gut on this one, but dont ever bet the house on anything or youll eventually be homeless lolComment -
bluejays @ red sox -106
so bluejays on an 8 game winning streak and score the most runs per game on average in all of baseball. the reason they are only one game above .500 is their pitching which is horrible at times. in this case u have hutchison who is 5-1 with an era of almost 5 tho. kelly has a 2-4 record with an era over 5 tho. red sox are at home but obviously people are betting bluejays here who are one of the hottest teams in baseball.
bjays should be atleast -120 imo maybe more. BUT i like red sox on this one. lineup against kelly is batting .269 career 14/52 BUT 3 of those 14 hits were homeruns so hes gotta watch out. cant leave anything over the plate.
hutchison against sox lineup 0.347!! i like that
leaning red sox. about to make it officialComment -
indians @ tigers -110
WHAT...how is this only -110. salazar has a 6-1 record but still...detroit has a better record...its in detroit...AND ITS PRICE PITCHING...
should be -130-140....price against indians lineup .270 not the best but salazar against tigers lineup actually bats .306 against him mainly because of kinsler and cabrera and castellanos. everyone else in the lineup doesnt appear to be a threat...
i bet so many people are getting sucked into this one and taking price and the tigers. leaning indians because it doesnt make senseeeeComment -
also rays line makes no sense either. danks is horrible but the rays pitcher has practically no experience only a couple relief appearances and his era is in the mid 4's...way too pricy of a line for that which means they books doing whatever they can to entice u to take the sox. lean rays. prob not takin this one thoComment -
waiting for u joco!
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red sox -106Comment -
just be careful fellas. variance is real. im due for a loss sooner or later. tail at your own riskComment -
indians +101
2 plays. if it looks sketchy we play the otha side. lets get it.Comment -
Damn bro u jinxed us! Lol red sox are pathetic. We were due for a loss unfortunately it's lookingnlike 0-2 tonite smhComment -
Get 'em back tomorrow, no biggie...Comment -
rough nite last nite. cleveland just couldnt put shit together price pitched a gem...
but the red sox...dont even get me started lol. 8-1 lead lol give up 9 runs in the 7th couldnt even get an out. ouch. that one should have been a cake walk. o well
just takin a look at the card...based off yesterdays lines the cards seem enticing at -140 today...yesterday was ventura vs jaime garcia and line was only -120...so that is somewhat interesting considering tyler lyons who is a good young pitcher is starting today and has looked like absolute sh!t his last couple appearances since coming off DL. guthrie for kc hasnt been too bad this year but hes one of those guys i like to fade. so gonna keep an eye on this one. lean cards but -140 isnt too farfetched of a lineComment -
mets seem like hefty faves over the braves...colon against wood yesterday and spread opened at -130 and i believe came down a little bit by game time. mets at -154 right now. degrom has been pretty solid this year but so has shelby miller for braves even tho he lost his last two starts. still would have expected this line to be around -130 again today...seems like they tryin to scare ya off mets a little bit. i dunno lean mets but well seeComment -
joco what do u say about tor vs rds?Comment -
Uhm, wow. Really?
9.5 K%, 7.2 BB%, .288 BAA, 1.46 WHIP (and both ALTHOUGH his BABIP of .288 suggest that he was lucky), 1.49 HR/9, .343 GB% (career low), 5.82 ERA, 5.57 FIP, 5.39 xFIP, 5.45 SIERA.
This guy has been one of the worst starters in the whole league thusfar. He's got the fifth highest ERA, 2nd highest FIP, highest xFIP and highest SIERA (this one by a clear margin) of all qualified starters in the league.Comment -
Line came down a lot. People playin Toronto. Hard to fade a 9'game win streak. Made that mistake yesterday obviously even tho they Shouldnt have blown that.
I didn't look at the pitchers numbers but buccholz been strong lately. Prob still lean bjays tho but I really didn't look at anything for that oneComment -
Agree Guthrie is certainly no prize but a decent mid rotation starter who's hit/miss like a lot of guys. Had several quality starts this season and quite a few disasters as well. And no doubt that 1 gm vs Yanks couple weeks back giving up 11 runs in 1st inning inflated his #'s quite a bit more.Comment -
And what does winning record mean? Nothing as we can see with Guthrie.
His record is only a product of the offense of the Royals.
Royals records with Guthrie as a starter:
- scoring at least 6 runs: 7-0
- scoring less than 6 runs: 1-4
Says all.
Guthrie is no mid-rotation starter and for sure not decent. In his current form he normally has no place in a top team this league.
Regarding this 1 outing against the Yankees: yes, it screwed up his stats but not as much regarding the sabermetrics (FIP, xFIP and especially SIERA). King Felix got roughed up in a similar fashion yesterday and his SIERA is still at 2.97 (and before it was about 2.50, so you can see that sabers adjust for bad outings much better than the conventional stats do).
He's been much better at home (Yankees was on the road) and still his FIP/xFIP numbers are split quite similar: home 5.92/5.07, road 6.02/5.79. So you can see that he IS doing bad, simply put.
His OPS against LHB is .897 for the whole season (that's ridiculously high). Cardinals shouldn't have much trouble getting on base against him with their top of the lineup. Wong, Peralta and Carpenter have top notch OPS against RHP this season (.844, .924, .964) and they will be 1-2-3 in the lineup most likely. Cards have the 2nd highest OBP, 4th highest OPS and 3rd highest wRC+ of all NL teams when batting against RHP.
(Doesn't mean that the Royals won't be able to win, but Guthrie is a gas can.)Comment -
Actually Guthrie has allowed 2 runs or less in 5 of L6 starts! Real issue lately has been that abysmal KC offense actually which hasn't done shit since they ended a series at Kauffman with Stl weeks ago! And last weekend the pen blew it for him. Can't stand Guthrie either and like I said he's nothing special just giving the facts here. Bol
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I think ur really focusing in on one thing I wrote which wasn't even the point of my post.And what does winning record mean? Nothing as we can see with Guthrie.
His record is only a product of the offense of the Royals.
Royals records with Guthrie as a starter:
- scoring at least 6 runs: 7-0
- scoring less than 6 runs: 1-4
Says all.
Guthrie is no mid-rotation starter and for sure not decent. In his current form he normally has no place in this league.
Regarding this 1 outing against the Yankees: yes, it screwed up his stats but not as much regarding the sabermetrics (FIP, xFIP and especially SIERA). King Felix got roughed up in a similar fashion yesterday and his SIERA is still at 2.97 (and before it was about 2.50, so you can see that sabers adjust for bad outings much better than the conventional stats do).
He's been much better at home (Yankees was on the road) and still his FIP/xFIP numbers are split quite similar: home 5.92/5.07, road 6.02/5.79. So you can see that he IS doing bad, simply put.
I said I usually fade Guthrie over the years and lean cards. Don't u lean the same way as me? Why are u arguing with me in my own Thread when WE ultimately agree on the play. I don't find it necessaryComment -
Agree. Out of all his starts he had the one where he gave up 11 wr in first inning and one other atrocious start where he gave up 7 er I believe. In in the car driving so u can't verify but I think he's pitcher better than he did in years past not that that's sayinf much lolActually Guthrie has allowed 2 runs or less in 5 of L6 starts! Real issue lately has been that abysmal KC offense actually which hasn't done shit since they ended a series at Kauffman with Stl weeks ago! And last weekend the pen blew it for him. Can't stand Guthrie either and like I said he's nothing special just giving the facts here. BolComment -
I always welcome discussion as Long as it remains Positive. No condescension and no attacking especially me in my own thread lol. Everyone is entitled to their opinions just keep it respectful please.
everyone has the ability to make their own thread where u can post whatever the fuk u want.
This is a positive thread and I plan on keepig it that wayComment -
We miss you Joco!Comment -
I'm Comin back pal don't worry. Been playin without posting last 3 days. Went 1-1, 2-0 and had Kc but bet got cancelled and 2-0 yesterday. Mite have a daytime play we will see when lineups come outComment -
Sounds good dude. Still rocking and rolling I seeComment -
brewers +101
already lockin this in. i have been waiting for chris young to fuk up all year. waitinggggg. hes been pitching out his a$$. i think its time tonite. obviously with the pitcher with way better numbers tonite and a much better record the royals should be favored tonite. brewers have one of if not the worst record in all of mlb.
gotta like em tonite for just about even $. royals lineup against garza 16/69=.231
brew lineup against young = .322
so im lockin in this brew play fellasComment -
cws @ pitt -156
i know this line was higher before. it should be around -170-180 imo. morton 4-0 2.05 era 1.06 whip. i never liked him whrn he was on the braves tho. i like cws for its value tonite even tho they cant hit and mite lose 11-0 again tonite. quintana won 2 starts in a row lol should have another good start tonite.
considering the very expensive pitt moneylines over the last few days and the way pitt has continued to win this line shouldnt be as low as it is. feelin the white sox and i mite put a little on it for shits and giggles at +148Comment -
Joco...Thinking of Detroit big. Any quick pick for that?Comment -
also guys this marlins yanks line lookin sketchy as hell. eovaldi 5-1 lol phelps is a bum. should be yanks -120-130 no question. marlins favored?!? probably shoulda played fish hereComment
