Fading the Astros

Willie Bee · 04-13-09, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by tacomax

They do though, don't they? Admitting it is the first step.

Ganch, er taco, you might be surprised how rarely I allow a loss by one of my favorite teams to upset me. I used to get very upset, but figured out it just wasn't healthy and was a waste of time.

Now that doesn't mean I don't smile when a few of my least favorite teams *cough*Cubs*cough*Cowboys*cough* lose, get the shitty end of the stick or have a key player go out with injury.

Willie Bee · 04-13-09, 03:54 PM

Monday, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tuesday, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wednesday, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Friday, Apr 10: Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Saturday, Apr 11: Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sunday, Apr 12: Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Monday, Apr 13: Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN

Season: 6-1, +4.90

illmatick · 04-13-09, 04:07 PM

nice job, add the nationals and phillies to that list, all 3 will be a nice fade for the next couple weeks

Willie Bee · 04-14-09, 06:34 AM

The MLB schedule maker should be hung, drawn and quartered for the slop he or she passes off for a fair schedule already. It's absolute horseshit, but having days off in the middle of a series really takes the cake. Why would you let the Pirates and Astros sit idle today in Pittsburgh with two games left in the series tomorrow and Thursday? Wouldn't Thursday make sense for the day off?

Bread · 04-14-09, 07:22 AM

Maybe the Astros requested the middle day off to go take a tour of the mines?

Killer Chihuahua · 04-14-09, 01:58 PM

No, they needed the day off to rent a video......the fundamentals of baseball (boxset)

Willie Bee · 04-16-09, 05:10 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*

Season: 6-2, +3.70

Shortstop · 04-16-09, 05:59 AM

I like the Pirates today. I thought Russ Ortiz retired years ago.

Bread · 04-16-09, 06:42 AM

The Stros were my friend yesterday

I won't make a habit of that though. Dangerous way to make a living.

Willie Bee · 04-16-09, 11:32 AM

I knew that my fade play was in trouble in the bottom of the third last night. Not only did Hampton have a 1-2-3 inning, he struck out the side, all swinging. Granted, these were the 8-9-1 hitters, with Nyjer Morgan that No. 1 hitter. But the writing was on the wall with that inning. Hampy actually had a 7-batter sequence in the 3rd-4th when he whiffed five of the seven.

The last time Hampton struckout the side in an inning that I can find was Sep 22, 2003, at Turner Field in Atlanta when he was with the Braves. It was the second inning against the Marlins, and it was anything but a 1-2-3 frame as the Fish scored three, all on a homer by Derrek Lee.

Bread · 04-16-09, 11:39 AM

I loved that Marlins team!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$

smitch124 · 04-16-09, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

The MLB schedule maker should be hung, drawn and quartered for the slop he or she passes off for a fair schedule already. It's absolute horseshit, but having days off in the middle of a series really takes the cake. Why would you let the Pirates and Astros sit idle today in Pittsburgh with two games left in the series tomorrow and Thursday? Wouldn't Thursday make sense for the day off?

They do it so they can have another opening day in case of a rain out, money money money.

smitch124 · 04-16-09, 11:49 AM

ok Ortiz pretend its the 2002 World Series, Game 6 and you have a 5 run lead...

Willie Bee · 04-16-09, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by smitch124

They do it so they can have another opening day in case of a rain out, money money money.

So then the Yanks and Tribe should have tomorrow off, right?

smitch124 · 04-16-09, 12:05 PM

Not everyone chooses to do it, the Dodgers did the same (not sure why in LA). Definitely understand doing it in Pittsburgh though.

Willie Bee · 04-16-09, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by smitch124

Not everyone chooses to do it, the Dodgers did the same (not sure why in LA). Definitely understand doing it in Pittsburgh though.

Yeah, sure as hell wouldn't want to piss off the 12,000 fans in Pittsburgh who will bother showing up the rest of the summer

smitch124 · 04-16-09, 02:27 PM

Sanchez has a 16 pitch at bat

then flies out

Willie Bee · 04-17-09, 06:43 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS

Season: 6-3, +2.46

Willie Bee · 04-17-09, 12:44 PM

You'd have to be an idiot to take the Reds against Roy O today. I think he is something like 972-1 against them lifetime with a -1.37 ERA. So I'm laying off them on an official wager but taking the Reds for a beer on an office wager with Vegas Dave.

Just the second time this season Houston is favored, the other being by a few pennies on Opening Day with Oswalt pitching.

smitch124 · 04-17-09, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

I think he is something like 972-1 against them lifetime with a -1.37 ERA.

I saw some of those games, its funny when they run backwards...

laxdjock · 04-17-09, 12:58 PM

Oswalt @ -1.5 +150

I'm a fan.

pimike · 04-17-09, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

You'd have to be an idiot to take the Reds against Roy O today. I think he is something like 972-1 against them lifetime with a -1.37 ERA. So I'm laying off them on an official wager but taking the Reds for a beer on an office wager with Vegas Dave.

Just the second time this season Houston is favored, the other being by a few pennies on Opening Day with Oswalt pitching.

Astros looks so good, therefore it must be loser give me REDS tonight

pimike · 04-17-09, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

You'd have to be an idiot to take the Reds against Roy O today. I think he is something like 972-1 against them lifetime with a -1.37 ERA. So I'm laying off them on an official wager but taking the Reds for a beer on an office wager with Vegas Dave.

Just the second time this season Houston is favored, the other being by a few pennies on Opening Day with Oswalt pitching.

I am that idiot sir. I was thinking just the opposite, I would have to be an idiot to lay that kind of wood on this Astros team since Oswalt won't pitch a complete game.

Willie Bee · 04-18-09, 08:53 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS
Fri, Apr 17: Reds +137, Houston loses 2-1...WIN

Season: 7-3, +3.83

Willie Bee · 04-18-09, 08:54 AM

Jose Valvomit to the rescue on Friday night. If the Astros can't beat the Reds with Roy O starting, what chance do they have with Wandy on the hill against Harang?

pimike · 04-18-09, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Jose Valvomit to the rescue on Friday night. If the Astros can't beat the Reds with Roy O starting, what chance do they have with Wandy on the hill against Harang?

ASTROS are unpredicatable Willie

Willie Bee · 04-19-09, 04:28 PM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS
Fri, Apr 17: Reds +137, Houston loses 2-1...WIN
Sat, Apr 18: Reds +113, Houston wins 7-0...LOSS
Sun, Apr 19: Reds -121, Houston loses 4-2, WIN

Season: 8-4, +3.83

Willie Bee · 04-21-09, 07:10 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: at Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: at Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: at Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: at Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: at Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: at Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS
Fri, Apr 17: vs. Reds +137, Houston loses 2-1...WIN
Sat, Apr 18: vs. Reds +113, Houston wins 7-0...LOSS
Sun, Apr 19: vs. Reds -121, Houston loses 4-2, WIN
Mon, Apr 20: vs. Reds +107, Houston loses 4-3, WIN

Season: 9-4, +4.90

Bread · 04-21-09, 07:14 AM

I wish I faded them and the Over last night

Willie Bee · 04-21-09, 07:21 AM

The Over would seem a very tough bet to make on a game involving the Astros right now. Look at the scoring in their home games this year so far, in a ballpark that is thought of by most casual followers as a hitter's paradise. The park has actually played neutral in terms of any advantage to either hitters or pitchers the past few years, and so far you've only got one game out of seven that has seen more than seven runs scored. A big part of that is Houston's offense being slow out of the gate.

We see Berkman and Lee both going deep last night, so maybe that's a sign that both are coming out of their funk. Then again, they've also each hit Arroyo pretty well over their careers and were catching him in the sixth when he might have been tiring a bit.

Chi_archie · 04-21-09, 10:19 AM

Willie and high impact prospects at AA or AAA waiting for a chance?

do the stros still have good ole J.R House on the farm? that guy has got to be pushing 30, wasted fvcking athatlete/talent

Willie Bee · 04-21-09, 10:42 AM

House isn't in the organization any longer. Think he landed with the Twins or Royals in the offseason, would have to check.

The Houston farm system bottomed out pretty much -- at least I hope it bottomed out -- last season. But they had a decent '08 draft and appear to have convinced Drayton McLane to quit taking such a hard stand on signing some of the kids, stick a crowbar in his wallet and spend some money on the scouting and minor league systems.

The top prospect is probably their top pick from last year, Jason Castro. No Bread, not the American Idol Jason Castro, the catcher from Stanford. They're also pretty high on Jordan Lyles, a tall, lean righty. They are trying to convert Brian Bogusevic from a pitcher to an outfielder and he did well in Double-A last year but has so far been a bit slow adjusting to Triple-A. Yordany Ramirez is a possible for an OF job in 2010, especially if Michael Bourn struggles again this season. And Bud Norris, if they can get him under control, is a nice dark horse to eventually be a No. 4 or even No. 3 arm in the rotation.

madmaxx · 04-21-09, 01:02 PM

Astros RL tonight

Willie Bee · 04-22-09, 08:33 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: at Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: at Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: at Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: at Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: at Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: at Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS
Fri, Apr 17: vs. Reds +137, Houston loses 2-1...WIN
Sat, Apr 18: vs. Reds +113, Houston wins 7-0...LOSS
Sun, Apr 19: vs. Reds -121, Houston loses 4-2, WIN
Mon, Apr 20: vs. Reds +107, Houston loses 4-3, WIN
Tue, Apr 21: vs. Dodgers -170, Houston wins 8-5, LOSS

Season: 9-5, +3.20

Willie Bee · 04-23-09, 09:23 AM

Mon, Apr 6: vs. Cubs -102; Houston loses 4-2...WIN
Tue, Apr 7: vs Cubs -110, Houston wins 3-2...LOSS
Wed, Apr 8: vs. Cubs -126, Houston loses 11-6...WIN*
Fri, Apr 10: at Cardinals -150, Houston loses 5-3...WIN
Sat, Apr 11: at Cardinals -130, Houston loses 11-2...WIN*
Sun, Apr 12: at Cardinals -137, Houston loses 3-0...WIN
Mon, Apr 13: at Pirates -130, Houston loses 7-0...WIN
Wed, Apr 15: at Pirates -120, Houston wins 4-1...LOSS*
Thu, Apr 16: at Pirates -124, Houston wins 6-3...LOSS
Fri, Apr 17: vs. Reds +137, Houston loses 2-1...WIN
Sat, Apr 18: vs. Reds +113, Houston wins 7-0...LOSS
Sun, Apr 19: vs. Reds -121, Houston loses 4-2, WIN
Mon, Apr 20: vs. Reds +107, Houston loses 4-3, WIN
Tue, Apr 21: vs. Dodgers -170, Houston wins 8-5, LOSS
Wed, Apr 22: vs. Dodgers -110, Houston wins 6-5, LOSS

Season: 9-6, +2.10