what ya'll playing today, discussion thread..

[2daBank]

cards vs edwin

vs. Batters

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Matt Holliday	27	26	8	1	0	1	4	1	5	.308	.333	.462	.795	0	0	0	0	1
Yadier Molina	20	17	9	0	0	3	6	3	1	.529	.600	1.059	1.659	0	0	0	0	1
Carlos Beltran	15	11	3	1	0	0	1	4	2	.273	.467	.364	.830	0	0	0	0	0
Allen Craig	13	13	4	1	0	0	4	0	5	.308	.308	.385	.692	0	0	0	0	0
Jon Jay	13	10	2	1	0	0	0	1	2	.200	.333	.300	.633	1	0	0	1	1
David Freese	9	8	1	1	0	0	0	1	4	.125	.222	.250	.472	0	0	0	0	1
Daniel Descalso	6	5	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	.200	.167	.200	.367	0	1	0	0	0
Matt Carpenter	5	3	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	.667	.800	.667	1.467	0	0	0	0	0
Pete Kozma	5	5	2	0	0	1	4	0	1	.400	.400	1.000	1.400	0	0	0	0	0
Rob Johnson	3	3	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.667	.667	.667	1.333	0	0	0	0	0
Jake Westbrook	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	.000	.500	.000	.500	0	0	0	0	0
Adam Wainwright	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	0	0	0	0	1
Total	119	103	34	5	0	5	20	13	20	.330	.407	.524	.931	1	1	0	1	5

edwin at wrigley

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Year-by-Year: CHI11

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	2010	0	1	.000	18.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	4.0	11	8	8	2	1	0	0	0	0		22	3.000	0.0	0.00
	2011	1	1	.500	4.85	2	2	0	0	0	0	13.0	10	7	7	2	2	0	11	0	0		50	0.923	7.6	5.50
	2013	2	5	.286	6.07	8	8	0	0	0	0	46.0	59	34	31	4	19	3	45	1	0		213	1.696	8.8	2.37
	Career Total	3	7	.300	6.57	11	11	0	0	0	0	63.0	80	49	46	8	22	3	56	1	0		285	1.619	8.0	2.55

westbrook vs scrubbies

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Alfonso Soriano	35	33	3	0	0	0	1	2	4	.091	.143	.091	.234	0	0	0	0	4
Starlin Castro	29	28	7	1	0	0	2	1	4	.250	.276	.286	.562	0	0	0	0	1
Darwin Barney	19	17	3	1	0	0	1	1	0	.176	.211	.235	.446	0	1	0	0	0
Dioner Navarro	13	13	3	0	0	0	1	0	1	.231	.231	.231	.462	0	0	0	0	0
Nate Schierholtz	13	12	3	1	0	0	2	1	1	.250	.308	.333	.641	0	0	0	0	0
Anthony Rizzo	9	8	4	1	0	0	0	0	0	.500	.556	.625	1.181	0	0	0	1	1
Luis Valbuena	8	6	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	.333	.500	.333	.833	0	0	0	0	1
Brian Bogusevic	5	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	.250	.400	.500	.900	0	0	0	1	0
Welington Castillo	5	4	1	1	0	0	0	1	1	.250	.400	.500	.900	0	0	0	0	0
Cody Ransom	5	5	1	0	0	0	0	0	3	.200	.200	.200	.400	0	0	0	0	0
Matt Garza	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000	.000	.000	.000	0	0	0	0	0
Edwin Jackson	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	.000	.500	.000	.500	0	0	0	0	0
Carlos Villanueva	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1.000	1.000	1.000	2.000	1	0	0	0	0
Jeff Samardzija	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0		1.000			0	0	0	0	0
Total	148	134	29	6	0	0	7	10	16	.216	.279	.261	.540	1	1	0	2	7

Cards rl +135 for me..

[You mad bro]

Sale sucking vs Detroit once again

[2daBank]

Sale sucking vs Detroit once again

good for the h/r/e over ..i see you been playing those also havnt you?

[2daBank]

gonna be seriously pissed if i dont at least push tribe tt over, these pussies have left so many runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs.

[Artieaa]

i like betting doyers but that price on capuano hard to swallow...something seems wrong with that total, 8 with these 2 pitching? even in CR man 1 would think there be runs and lot of pens in this one..

Playing the over on Dodgers myself, like tha chances of being a slug fest with both starters!!!!

[You mad bro]

good for the h/r/e over ..i see you been playing those also havnt you?

I play at least 2-3 a week lol

[2daBank]

pushing tribe tt at least..gonna be pissed if they cant get this man home from 3rd w no damn outs to give me the W!!

[2daBank]

so sad..you cant hit a damn grounder or fly out to score a man from 3rd? this like 3rd inning they have had a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs and have failed to drive him in..

[You mad bro]

so sad..you cant hit a damn grounder or fly out to score a man from 3rd? this like 3rd inning they have had a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs and have failed to drive him in..

Bet the jays today .. How do you think i feel? Lol

[2daBank]

Bet the jays today .. How do you think i feel? Lol

worse than me, lol..actually kinda happy got the push on the tt so at least still profit from cle win (hopefully)

[You mad bro]

worse than me, lol..

For fck sake .. All my early games are losin .......... Thank god im up a nice amount this week other wise id be in a worse position that George Zimmerman

[2daBank]

buyin a run on the cards total really cheap so maybe im sucker but gotta take adv of that

stl/chc ov 7.5 -140..i think cards can put up 5 at least vs edwin and scrubbies pen. dont think asking scrubbies for 3 is unreasonable...not generally a fan of doing this except in parlays but really think odds of getting to 8 in this gm are greater than -140..parlay it with something if ya must but think we see 8 runs minimum here..

[2daBank]

cash tribe should be cashing tt over also but whatever at least they pushed it..

[Vinnie Paz]

Gonna pound cards team over bank. Probably be on dodgers team over as well, pomeranz is ass, terrible stats everywhere, dodgers hit lhp well and they been on a heater. Haven't even seen what the number is, just looked over the stat #s and know ill be on it lol. Awaiting line ups however.

Bank wind blowing in at wrigley too...

[2daBank]

the h/r/e under in the bronx is cooked, way to go santana and pettit. you clowns managed to give up a shitload of runs with one of best pitcher umpires in the gm behind the plate, pussies!

on bright side looks like we can cash the over h/r/e in det only needing 2 more h/r/e with lots of time..

[whtsox13]

Tigers bullpen early. Like it.

[2daBank]

Gonna pound cards team over bank. Probably be on dodgers team over as well, pomeranz is ass, terrible stats everywhere, dodgers hit lhp well and they been on a heater. Haven't even seen what the number is, just looked over the stat #s and know ill be on it lol. Awaiting line ups however.

Bank wind blowing in at wrigley too...

yea it blowing in but not hard..cards not really a hr team anyway and westbrook def hasnt been giving up many runs on long balls. expect lots of hits tho..

[joco]

hmmm my total for the cards cubs game is 8.5 -120....

[2daBank]

hmmm my total for the cards cubs game is 8.5 -120....

the actual number i have is ov 8.5 ev..like i said i bought a run, dont do often but felt like ov 7.5 even paying -140 was well worth it in this gm..

[2daBank]

h/r/e over cashes in det..just need to get the under in sea to turn a profit on those for the day..

[joco]

ahhh i missed u saying that

[2daBank]

live total

cws/dett ov 11 +110

[2daBank]

lots of pen to go, figure what the hell as i have no action at the moment, lol..

[Grizzlies918]

Tampa/Minny u 8 cashes!
Yankees with a monster comeback down 4-1 now 8-4!

Need that Bos/Sea under to cash for a nice afternoon!



I'm definitely going to be on the Cards with ya tonight Banker!

[bmansell33]

Boston, san fran, az, st. Louis

[bmansell33]

Tigers by 2 +1997 just for action

[2daBank]

Boston, san fran, az, st. Louis

think i like zona ff better than gm. def give mil the pen adv even w/o zona playing 14 last night.. sf outta win but they just not playing well enough for me to lay -130ish on them on the road.. like the other 2..gl tonight

[2daBank]

Tampa/Minny u 8 cashes!
Yankees with a monster comeback down 4-1 now 8-4!

Need that Bos/Sea under to cash for a nice afternoon!



I'm definitely going to be on the Cards with ya tonight Banker!

glad i laid off kc, lol.. cards way to cheap to pass on imo.. ill chase the hell out of them if i have to but i expect we get the W today..

[whtsox13]

cards way to cheap to pass on imo.. ill chase the hell out of them if i have to but i expect we get the W today..

Four game series in Wrigley. My thoughts exactly.

[bmansell33]

Remember rockies get tulo and fowler back tonight hopefully. Something to watch for as closer to gametime

[2daBank]

Remember rockies get tulo and fowler back tonight hopefully. Something to watch for as closer to gametime

well that makes over even more appealing..honestly i know it CR where the ball dont fly but id have made this 8.5 at least..

[bmansell33]

Ff over prob best bet rocks pen is pretty solid

[Grizzlies918]

glad i laid off kc, lol.. cards way to cheap to pass on imo.. ill chase the hell out of them if i have to but i expect we get the W today..

Cards getting a low number against a shitty pitcher. Seems pretty fishy, but I'm not overthinking this one! Cards ML for me -130.

[2daBank]

Ff over prob best bet rocks pen is pretty solid

havnt been lately, neither pen scares me and id expect we see quite a bit from both of them.. neither of these starters has shown anything to make me think they make it past 5..

[Big Bear]

Good luck Hot Wings, always enjoy your posts.

Bank- here are some notes on Seattle's starter today.


Because of iffy strikeout rates in the minor leagues, the projection systems don’t like like Erasmo. A below-average strikeout rate, buffeted by a below-average ground ball rate, can only last so long on the stamina provided by an above-average walk rate. And of course, in the meantime, Ramirez lost his best asset: the comfy soft pillow of a home park that SafeCo used to be. Still, Seattle is cold, and home runs suffer shrinkage in cold weather. Perhaps SafeCo provides enough comfort that we can take the under on Ramirez’ Steamer-projected 1.04 home runs per nine. He never had a homer problem, even in the PCL.


Still, take a few homers out of the equation, and those projections still don’t allure. And yet we have this changeup. That’s a heck of a change piece. Last year, he had as much x-movement on the pitch as Fernando Rodney did. And while Rodney throws 96 with an 84 mph change, Ramirez throws 93 with an 81 mph change — and has control. That’s some good motion of the ocean.


Since a changeup has either no platoon split or a reverse one, Ramirez is in a good position with only his fastballs and his changeup. He has a legitimate curve and slider combo that he can use against same-handed hitters. Well, the curve may fall by the bedside as he ages. Right now, it’s just a change of speed, as it goes 78 mph, since it doesn’t get whiffs, grounders, or strikes like the rest of his pitches. Maybe he should focus on the slider, which looks about average in most respects. An average slider, that ridiculous changeup, and 93 with two fastballs seems like a decent arsenal.


So why the disconnect between looks and performance? Maybe he just needs to learn the intricacies of his game. He actually has a reverse platoon split right now — his strikeout rate has jumped in both the majors and minors against lefties, and some changeups have reverse splits, so that wouldn’t be strange. The slider isn’t great, but if he throws the curve less, and tightens that primary breaking pitch, he can have a weapon against same-handed hitters. He’s already doing some of this, since he throws his slider twice as much as his change against righties.


But the real reason we may not have seen this coming is hidden velocity spike. Ramirez was more high eighties/low nineties when he first signed with the team. Last year, he averaged 93 on the heater. That creates more separation between his hard and soft stuff.


So let’s turn on the rotating bed and the rosy lava lamps and take the over on the projected strikeout rates. With those whiffs, that fastball, and great control, Ramirez can probably repeat his 20-ish % strikeout rate, which is well above the 18.2% strikeout rate that AL starters were showing as a group last year. He likes the high heat, so the fly balls won’t go away, but his park will do enough to mitigate that damage.

whhhaaaaaaaattttt the hell did i just read???? hmmmm