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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #1
    what ya'll playing today, discussion thread..
    lets hear it, give me some plays to talk bout..

    i played..

    cle +110
    cle tt ov 4 +105

    so far
  • BigBoi
    SBR MVP
    • 04-01-11
    • 1084

    #2
    Like CHW ff and for that matter the game just cuz Detroits pen is SO bad.
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #3
      kc/ny h/r/e un 28 -135..just tail these but great ump for this one also..
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      • BigBoi
        SBR MVP
        • 04-01-11
        • 1084

        #4
        Any reason not to like Dumpster against SEA? Boston destroys righties.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBoi
          Like CHW ff and for that matter the game just cuz Detroits pen is SO bad.
          i played h/r/e ov 25..woke up late so just capping them now..
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by BigBoi
            Any reason not to like Dumpster against SEA? Boston destroys righties.
            yea i mean at -120ish i dont see why not play them? played them last night just cause them and laa seemed cheap as well...dont know who the hell that is pitching for sea, guess ill figure that out 1st but again i dont see why not really..
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            • joco
              SBR MVP
              • 04-24-11
              • 3242

              #7
              red sox, yanks, nats tonite...i liked dbacks til they went into extras last nite as well...thats all so far
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #8
                Originally posted by joco
                red sox, yanks, nats tonite...i liked dbacks til they went into extras last nite as well...thats all so far
                i like kc but thought i should have got little more + than they were giving so left alone..hope you cash in a lower scoring gm, do like under and h/r/e/ under... i have no idea why red sox have got bet down to where it at but they gonna be hard to pass up at that price.
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                • Grizzlies918
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 05-29-12
                  • 371

                  #9
                  Went against you on the Jays/Indians game. Went with Minny/Tampa u 8 and Yankees -125.

                  Haven't really looked at any night games. Waiting on you guys to discuss and help me out!
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                  • joco
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-24-11
                    • 3242

                    #10
                    had to take yanks at -120. day game at home...couldnt pass it up. and yea i lean under in the yanks kc game. dunno what the temp is out there but hopefully the ball wont be traveling extra far...

                    and i dont understand the red sox line either...goin way down...saw some people on sbr on seattle also...thats a head scratcher...maybe people are just fading dempster...he hasnt been bad in his last few starts only giving up 2 ER in each...
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      i dont blame you for playing nyy, like i said while i kinda like kc i thought the price was shitty to back them. im looking bos/sea over again right now but yea almost have to plat sox unless i see something i really dont like..
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                      • Big Bear
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-01-11
                        • 43253

                        #12
                        trying real hard noT to place any bets today!

                        ahh but the degenerate in me is a beast to control.
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                        • Grizzlies918
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 05-29-12
                          • 371

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          i dont blame you for playing nyy, like i said while i kinda like kc i thought the price was shitty to back them. im looking bos/sea over again right now but yea almost have to plat sox unless i see something i really dont like..
                          Red Sox look good. Dempster has looked very nice his last few starts. Don't know a thing about this kid Seattle is throwing out there today.
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                          • joco
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-24-11
                            • 3242

                            #14
                            why big bear? u dont see anythinn u like?
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                            • whtsox13
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-02-12
                              • 1401

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigBoi
                              Like CHW ff and for that matter the game just cuz Detroits pen is SO bad.
                              On both those CHW plays. TB/Wash parlay. NYY. Bost -1. StL.
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                              • Big Bear
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #16
                                Originally posted by joco
                                why big bear? u dont see anythinn u like?
                                i've changed my strategy a bit. I used to bet a lot of $20 parlays for 6 teams maybe a 4 team parlay for $50 or $100....


                                Now i have been making maybe 1 or 2 bets a week and usually go about $500 a game.

                                I have built up a decent bankroll now and i'm afraid of giving it all back.

                                Maybe i should do like most people on here and bet multiple games a day with $20 units but will the money ever add up to something significant doing $20 a game?

                                i've never before done multiple single bets in a day. I'm afraid if i do that and make my self have smaller bets then i will get lazy and not put as much thought into my plays and be lucky to tread water betting 45-50% win ratio
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                                • JMon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-11-09
                                  • 9800

                                  #17
                                  On clev as well. Will also be on Bos, Det, Atl and possibly Lad
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                                  • Grizzlies918
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-29-12
                                    • 371

                                    #18
                                    His stats from last season with the Mariners don't look too shabby. Looks like he was hurt by lack of run support.

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                                    Here's a look at his minor league numbers this season

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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #19
                                      no idea why cards are so cheap either? they can and will hit edwin.
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                                      • joco
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-24-11
                                        • 3242

                                        #20
                                        feel u bb...thats the smart way to do it...one play a day or somethin along those lines...i jus cant help myself tho
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                                        • Grizzlies918
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 05-29-12
                                          • 371

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          no idea why cards are so cheap either? they can and will hit edwin.

                                          You making a play on them today, bank?
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Grizzlies918
                                            Red Sox look good. Dempster has looked very nice his last few starts. Don't know a thing about this kid Seattle is throwing out there today.
                                            only thing i saw was not great history with this ump..not a lot of gms and some were long time ago so not really big deal..

                                            dempster with nelson calling balls and strikes.

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                                            1999 0 0 0.00 1 1 0 0 0 0 7.0 4 0 0 0 3 0 7 0 0 28 1.000 9.0 2.33
                                            2001 0 1 .000 7.20 1 1 0 0 0 0 5.0 6 4 4 0 3 0 3 0 0 23 1.800 5.4 1.00
                                            2006 0 1 .000 40.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.2 4 3 3 0 4 1 1 0 0 10 12.000 13.5 0.25
                                            2011 0 0 11.12 1 1 0 0 0 0 5.2 9 7 7 3 3 0 3 0 0 29 2.118 4.8 1.00
                                            2013 0 1 .000 2.57 1 1 0 0 0 0 7.0 5 4 2 1 1 0 8 0 1 28 0.857 10.3 8.00
                                            Career Total 0 3 .000 5.68 6 4 0 0 0 0 25.1 28 18 16 4 14 1 22 0 1 118 1.658 7.8 1.57
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                                            • Bet10Heinekens
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-10-13
                                              • 10567

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by joco
                                              red sox, yanks, nats tonite...i liked dbacks til they went into extras last nite as well...thats all so far
                                              We are thinking alike

                                              Contains the following 4 Propositions
                                              (8.44 to 1 Odds)
                                              # 1 NY YANKEES 0 (-116) Pitching Option: Action
                                              KANSAS CITY (E Santana -R) vs NY YANKEES (A Pettitte -L)
                                              MLB at 07/11/2013 1:05:00 PM
                                              # 2 BOSTON 0 (-122) Pitching Option: Action
                                              BOSTON (R Dempster -R) vs SEATTLE (Er Ramirez -R)
                                              MLB at 07/11/2013 3:40:00 PM
                                              # 3 WASHINGTON 0 (-137) Pitching Option: Action
                                              WASHINGTON (J Zimmermann -R) vs PHILADELPHIA (K Kendrick -R)
                                              MLB at 07/11/2013 7:05:00 PM
                                              # 4 LA DODGERS 0 (-164) Pitching Option: Action
                                              COLORADO (D Pomeranz -L) vs LA DODGERS (C Capuano -L)
                                              MLB at 07/11/2013 10:10:00 PM
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Grizzlies918
                                                You making a play on them today, bank?
                                                at that price yea..thinking bout parlaying red sux and cards, that should pay nice..
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                                                • italianbandit
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-17-11
                                                  • 2622

                                                  #25
                                                  Looking at Whitesox ff and Ariz FF
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                                                  • joco
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-24-11
                                                    • 3242

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens
                                                    We are thinking alike

                                                    Contains the following 4 Propositions
                                                    (8.44 to 1 Odds)
                                                    # 1 NY YANKEES 0 (-116) Pitching Option: Action
                                                    KANSAS CITY (E Santana -R) vs NY YANKEES (A Pettitte -L)
                                                    MLB at 07/11/2013 1:05:00 PM
                                                    # 2 BOSTON 0 (-122) Pitching Option: Action
                                                    BOSTON (R Dempster -R) vs SEATTLE (Er Ramirez -R)
                                                    MLB at 07/11/2013 3:40:00 PM
                                                    # 3 WASHINGTON 0 (-137) Pitching Option: Action
                                                    WASHINGTON (J Zimmermann -R) vs PHILADELPHIA (K Kendrick -R)
                                                    MLB at 07/11/2013 7:05:00 PM
                                                    # 4 LA DODGERS 0 (-164) Pitching Option: Action
                                                    COLORADO (D Pomeranz -L) vs LA DODGERS (C Capuano -L)
                                                    MLB at 07/11/2013 10:10:00 PM

                                                    yeaaaa buddyyy lets win some $!!!
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                                                    • Down_Goes Bookie
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 06-18-13
                                                      • 422

                                                      #27
                                                      BAL ML

                                                      Gonzalez has been pitching effectively. 30 yr old minor league journeyman Ross Wolf, with 40 IP of major league experience, mounts the bump for Texas, making his second major league start. Wolf did start 6 games in AAA this year with a 1.85 ERA and 1.06 WHIP though his peripherals were poor. Fastball tops out at 91 mph. Looking for Balty to send Wolf howling to the showers by the fifth inning.
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JMon
                                                        On clev as well. Will also be on Bos, Det, Atl and possibly Lad
                                                        i like betting doyers but that price on capuano hard to swallow...something seems wrong with that total, 8 with these 2 pitching? even in CR man 1 would think there be runs and lot of pens in this one..
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                                                        • italianbandit
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-17-11
                                                          • 2622

                                                          #29
                                                          Passing on Wsox.
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                                                          • HOT WINGS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-29-10
                                                            • 8055

                                                            #30
                                                            Took Tigers -1 and Yanks -1. Such a square and homer lol. GL man.
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by italianbandit
                                                              Looking at Whitesox ff and Ariz FF
                                                              zona ff makes sense..gonna look at it..
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                                                              • joco
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-24-11
                                                                • 3242

                                                                #32
                                                                i expect miley to go 8 innings and give up no more than 2 ER
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                                                                • SlickRick1382
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-15-11
                                                                  • 3838

                                                                  #33
                                                                  KC, Indians and White Sox in the am

                                                                  Giants and possible Nats later wanted to bet Boston last night but waited. Line moving 13 cents the other way has me pausing a second.
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                                                                  • Grizzlies918
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 05-29-12
                                                                    • 371

                                                                    #34
                                                                    3-0 Royals

                                                                    Need some runs Yankees!!
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                                                                    • italianbandit
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-17-11
                                                                      • 2622

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Good luck Hot Wings, always enjoy your posts.

                                                                      Bank- here are some notes on Seattle's starter today.


                                                                      Because of iffy strikeout rates in the minor leagues, the projection systems don’t like like Erasmo. A below-average strikeout rate, buffeted by a below-average ground ball rate, can only last so long on the stamina provided by an above-average walk rate. And of course, in the meantime, Ramirez lost his best asset: the comfy soft pillow of a home park that SafeCo used to be. Still, Seattle is cold, and home runs suffer shrinkage in cold weather. Perhaps SafeCo provides enough comfort that we can take the under on Ramirez’ Steamer-projected 1.04 home runs per nine. He never had a homer problem, even in the PCL.


                                                                      Still, take a few homers out of the equation, and those projections still don’t allure. And yet we have this changeup. That’s a heck of a change piece. Last year, he had as much x-movement on the pitch as Fernando Rodney did. And while Rodney throws 96 with an 84 mph change, Ramirez throws 93 with an 81 mph change — and has control. That’s some good motion of the ocean.


                                                                      Since a changeup has either no platoon split or a reverse one, Ramirez is in a good position with only his fastballs and his changeup. He has a legitimate curve and slider combo that he can use against same-handed hitters. Well, the curve may fall by the bedside as he ages. Right now, it’s just a change of speed, as it goes 78 mph, since it doesn’t get whiffs, grounders, or strikes like the rest of his pitches. Maybe he should focus on the slider, which looks about average in most respects. An average slider, that ridiculous changeup, and 93 with two fastballs seems like a decent arsenal.


                                                                      So why the disconnect between looks and performance? Maybe he just needs to learn the intricacies of his game. He actually has a reverse platoon split right now — his strikeout rate has jumped in both the majors and minors against lefties, and some changeups have reverse splits, so that wouldn’t be strange. The slider isn’t great, but if he throws the curve less, and tightens that primary breaking pitch, he can have a weapon against same-handed hitters. He’s already doing some of this, since he throws his slider twice as much as his change against righties.


                                                                      But the real reason we may not have seen this coming is hidden velocity spike. Ramirez was more high eighties/low nineties when he first signed with the team. Last year, he averaged 93 on the heater. That creates more separation between his hard and soft stuff.


                                                                      So let’s turn on the rotating bed and the rosy lava lamps and take the over on the projected strikeout rates. With those whiffs, that fastball, and great control, Ramirez can probably repeat his 20-ish % strikeout rate, which is well above the 18.2% strikeout rate that AL starters were showing as a group last year. He likes the high heat, so the fly balls won’t go away, but his park will do enough to mitigate that damage.
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