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  • mikmik
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-13-12
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    #491
    Bank can I get your insight on cubs and Philadelphia I like both teams too today.
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    • BiffTFinancial
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      • 01-29-09
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      #492
      Guessing that Cards RL is the play in Miami?
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      • 2daBank
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        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #493
        Originally posted by mikmik
        Bank can I get your insight on cubs and Philadelphia I like both teams too today.
        i actually leaned muts but not playing them, i never trust garza to not run his pitch count up and be gone by the 6th.think hefner has pitched pretty well lately and hell when the last time scrubbies have swept a road series? i know they havnt done it this yr...i dunno they both suck which prob why im passing but if you making me id prob play muts.. might play over but again id prob be better off passing...i just started looking at phi/col gm, def see why you like philly, still not finished with it but i guess what i dont like is i hate when a team opens as a dog and money drives them to favs which looks like it might happen here, i tend to side with where book made the line at open more than what the money does to it later. to the point where if i finish and like phi i will more than likely pass if they close as favs..
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        • leetreaper
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          • 10-23-10
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          #494
          Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
          Guessing that Cards RL is the play in Miami?
          Yeah looks great on paper but I played -1.0 on Pinny.
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
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            #495
            Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
            Guessing that Cards RL is the play in Miami?
            i cant do it..but then again i havnt liked cards all series.. still not huge lyons believer although it seems cards are.. i never know wtf nolasco gonna bring. almost gotta expect him to be solid with them making the total 7.5 juiced to over when they could have easily hung a 8 and got plenty of over money.
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            • mikmik
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              • 05-13-12
              • 5457

              #496
              Bank we all know you know nd love your cards but am I nuts thinking cards bury the public today? And I do like under as well.
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #497
                Originally posted by mikmik
                Bank we all know you know nd love your cards but am I nuts thinking cards bury the public today? And I do like under as well.
                im not betting them so maybe not so nuts. think i would prob rather play fish ff than gm just cause cards tend to wear on pitchers and their pen tough so id think if fish dont cash the ff rl then they prob in trouble for gm.. i dunno, i thought coming in this might be the series they finally lose but after fish scored 7 yesterday and lost im not so sure. wont get any letup with the series tied 1-1 as cards are all about winning series.
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                • BiffTFinancial
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-29-09
                  • 22670

                  #498
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  i cant do it..but then again i havnt liked cards all series.. still not huge lyons believer although it seems cards are.. i never know wtf nolasco gonna bring. almost gotta expect him to be solid with them making the total 7.5 juiced to over when they could have easily hung a 8 and got plenty of over money.
                  Hmmm, oh well - thanks for your thoughts! These two stats caught my eye, but i defer to you on Cards.

                  Nolasco 1-4 with a 4.82 ERA in eight career starts versus the Cardinals
                  Nolasco vs current Cardinals: .323/.371/.469/.841
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                  • 2daBank
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-26-09
                    • 88966

                    #499
                    Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                    Hmmm, oh well - thanks for your thoughts! These two stats caught my eye, but i defer to you on Cards.

                    Nolasco 1-4 with a 4.82 ERA in eight career starts versus the Cardinals
                    Nolasco vs current Cardinals: .323/.371/.469/.841
                    yea i saw that as well... i dunno why i remember him pitching well vs cards, he must have at least 1 good 1 in there if not a couple cause i know im not imagining this.. i wouldnt let me stop you cause i mean they could very easily go out there and smash fish again, i thought it would take a cards a couple times thru yesterday to get that kid and ya see how that went.. im certainly not playing fish with cards needing the win to get the series.. any ideea if roof windows are open/closed? closed id imagine?
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #500
                      feel like i missed out on muts or over. muts up to -111 and over which i prob liked little more at +105 down to ev..
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                      • BiffTFinancial
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-29-09
                        • 22670

                        #501
                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                        yea i saw that as well... i dunno why i remember him pitching well vs cards, he must have at least 1 good 1 in there if not a couple cause i know im not imagining this.. i wouldnt let me stop you cause i mean they could very easily go out there and smash fish again, i thought it would take a cards a couple times thru yesterday to get that kid and ya see how that went.. im certainly not playing fish with cards needing the win to get the series.. any ideea if roof windows are open/closed? closed id imagine?
                        No, you're not imagining it, Nolasco 0 ER (2 R) last 12 2/3 IP vs Cards, and his last 3 starts vs them have been good. That's part of my hesitation. I'm passing. If i play big chalk today, it would be something like a Cueto + Holland parlay (which is +128).
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                        • BiffTFinancial
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-09
                          • 22670

                          #502
                          Molina and Holliday out of the lineup - PASS

                          Marlins backers have to like that.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #503
                            Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                            No, you're not imagining it, Nolasco 0 ER (2 R) last 12 2/3 IP vs Cards, and his last 3 starts vs them have been good. That's part of my hesitation. I'm passing. If i play big chalk today, it would be something like a Cueto + Holland parlay (which is +128).
                            i seriously still dont trust lyons either, i mean cards smarter than me and they kept him up but not sure if that was as much about him or protecting wacha as he still really young/fresh out of college and still needs to work on a 3rd pitch. but every time i watch this kid im usually left wondering how he didt give up more, his breaking stuff really doesnt look tht good on tv anyway yet guys seem top roll over on it quite a bit so i guess he hides it well or been fortunate, still not sure which..
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #504
                              Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                              Molina and Holliday out of the lineup - PASS

                              Marlins backers have to like that.
                              that little surprising, i know holliday hits nolasco well and yadi is yadi.. i thought this series stunk from opening when cards were only -155 to win a series against fish when they havnt lost a series in forever.
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                              • BiffTFinancial
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-29-09
                                • 22670

                                #505
                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                i seriously still dont trust lyons either, i mean cards smarter than me and they kept him up but not sure if that was as much about him or protecting wacha as he still really young/fresh out of college and still needs to work on a 3rd pitch. but every time i watch this kid im usually left wondering how he didt give up more, his breaking stuff really doesnt look tht good on tv anyway yet guys seem top roll over on it quite a bit so i guess he hides it well or been fortunate, still not sure which..
                                the way the Fish hit lefties, he might be staying fortunate for another start.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                  the way the Fish hit lefties, he might be staying fortunate for another start.
                                  prob one of biggest reasons i didnt play them on the rl at least.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #507
                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    lastros +118..this is pretty simple, wrong team is getting the plus money imo. hou scores 4.46 rpg against lefties while chisux couldnt hit a lefty to save their lives, mustering barely 3 rpg against them on the season while hitting a impressive .229 and have a less than .300 obp against them, it gets worse if you can believe it! down to barely 2 rpg a .192 ba and a .262 obp off lefties of late. if that all wasnt enough we also getting the better of the 2 lefties on the side of the dog..kuechel has pitched well lately and performed much closer to what his peripherals would suggest while there simply no way santiago gonna maintain that 3.12 era with his walk rate alone, add in the fact hou hits lefties while any1 who can get it over the plate left handed prob has a shot of shutting down the sox, to me if you take away the lastro name they prob deserve to be slight favs here so ill take +118 all day, even if it means backing the improbable of hou winning 3 gms in a row at home!
                                    muts-1 +138..i cant stomach laying any type of juice on the muts so i will risk a push rather than eat 14 cents, lol.. lean over as well so i guess giving the run not as bad as it would be if i thought this be low scoring. Garza is a mental midget, dudes stuff is good no 1 can deny that but he refuses to learn how to pitch thus he will have 8ks and 4 walks by the 5 inning and pretty much be spent, not exactly a ground ball pitcher either and strong wind blowing out in ny today. ive seen hefner a few times recently and to me he has pitched better than his 1-6 record would indicate, i think he can give me a quality start here while garza be gone before the 6th is over. give me the muts to avoid suffering the indignity of being the 1st team to be swept by scrubbies at home all yr..
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                                    • mikmik
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-13-12
                                      • 5457

                                      #508
                                      Fish line dropping. Vegas begging public to take stl that cheap lol
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by mikmik
                                        Fish line dropping. Vegas begging public to take stl that cheap lol
                                        na it cause yadi and holliday out, those guys important enough (especially yadi) where id imagine money came in on fish +140ish.
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                                        • BiffTFinancial
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-29-09
                                          • 22670

                                          #510
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          na it cause yadi and holliday out, those guys important enough (especially yadi) where id imagine money came in on fish +140ish.
                                          I would submit that Yadi is one of the most important position players in baseball. No way does a 10c line move properly account for his impact. It's like me in hoops.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                            I would submit that Yadi is one of the most important position players in baseball. No way does a 10c line move properly account for his impact. It's like me in hoops.
                                            lol..i agree..
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                                            • mikmik
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 05-13-12
                                              • 5457

                                              #512
                                              Yea but to the casual bettors stl looks way to good for a horrible marlins team. Seems too good to be true.
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                                              • BiffTFinancial
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-29-09
                                                • 22670

                                                #513
                                                Originally posted by mikmik
                                                Yea but to the casual bettors stl looks way to good for a horrible marlins team. Seems too good to be true.
                                                No doubt. I'm just saying that i don't want to back Cards without Yadi on principle (i'd argue that Cards minus Yadi cannot offer any "value"). So glad that I didn't play RL earlier, i'd be kicking myself.
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by mikmik
                                                  Yea but to the casual bettors stl looks way to good for a horrible marlins team. Seems too good to be true.
                                                  casual bettors tend to always bet cards , kinda like yankees, so years they really good they gonna prob do ok.. i try not to worry bout such things at all but with cards i take it even less into account cause they just one of those teams that majority of the time gonna have a strong public backing, not much u can do about it, plus as i like to say cards love squares, sharps not so much (which prob why i tend to have success with them, lol ) .. far as this gm tho i dunno, gun to my head i would be on your side of this one cause this 1st series i came into in quite a while where i didnt go in thinking i could expect a couple wins outta stl.. really wanna play under but such a scary bet with a low number and cards bats lately. ill prob end up on under, lol. hoping price on 8 gets a little better still as not thrilled paying -110 for it.
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                                                  • philippe61
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 06-19-12
                                                    • 256

                                                    #515
                                                    whos likes the over 7.5 in the cubs game
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by philippe61
                                                      whos likes the over 7.5 in the cubs game
                                                      i leaned that way..ended up playing muts tho and hate playing side and total in same gm.. if i would have took when it was +105 id feel ok bout it but not sure id wanna lay any juice cause either one of these teams capable of not scoring shit on ya..
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                                                      • philippe61
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-19-12
                                                        • 256

                                                        #517
                                                        what do you think about the ants and sctraus coming off the dl?
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #518
                                                          cards/fish un 8 -111. hate paying juice on this but appears it not getting better anytime soon. talked about this gm enough, i think nolasco can come out and limit cards, lyons has the benefit of fish not hitting lefties, think we talking about a 4-3 type gm.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #519
                                                            Originally posted by philippe61
                                                            what do you think about the ants and sctraus coming off the dl?
                                                            i dunno, kluber has been really good. if it wasnt for the chance of rain and maybe that i was hoping for a little more + on cle i would have prob played them..
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                                                            • BiffTFinancial
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-29-09
                                                              • 22670

                                                              #520
                                                              For what it's worth, rain may not be that big an issue for Tribe game. Rain was supposed to stop mid-morning and has stopped at my house (i live east of downtown and weather generally moves west to east here), and chance during the game is 30%.
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                                                              • philippe61
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 06-19-12
                                                                • 256

                                                                #521
                                                                ya i know i was thinking that tooo sundays are my worst days lol but im thiking of going o7 in the dodgers game instead of the ants winds blowing hard to left and greinki hasnt looked his bench since coming back off the dl
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                                                                • philippe61
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 06-19-12
                                                                  • 256

                                                                  #522
                                                                  lol nvm both pitchers doing solid in last outing and grienke great career vs bucs penetrate it lol
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                                                    For what it's worth, rain may not be that big an issue for Tribe game. Rain was supposed to stop mid-morning and has stopped at my house (i live east of downtown and weather generally moves west to east here), and chance during the game is 30%.
                                                                    ah..now i wanna play them again..still be nice for line to jump back up a little..
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                                                                    • 2daBank
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #524
                                                                      cle +114..i think it worth it here, kluber been so good and stras fresh off the dl ill take my chances..
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                                                                      • NittanyLionsFan
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-26-10
                                                                        • 2857

                                                                        #525
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