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  • not mofome
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-06-06
    • 42

    #1
    best manager in baseball


  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    no arguements from me mofome.


    this guy has been a winner for years.
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    • Illusion
      Restricted User
      • 08-09-05
      • 25166

      #3
      I don't know what his secret is, but Leyland sure is doing one hell of a job.
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      • not mofome
        SBR Rookie
        • 06-06-06
        • 42

        #4
        if dusty baker was manager detroit record would be
        39-43 now instead of 56-26 verlander and all
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        • Illusion
          Restricted User
          • 08-09-05
          • 25166

          #5
          Originally posted by mofome
          if dusty baker was manager detroit record would be
          39-43 now instead of 56-26 verlander and all
          That sounds about right. Dusty has really derailed the Cubs over the past couple of years. Some of his pitching moves alone make you wanna scratch your head.
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6
            Originally posted by mofome
            if dusty baker was manager detroit record would be
            39-43 now instead of 56-26 verlander and all

            i think your being generous giving him that much credit.

            i don't think dusty had what it took too push the right buttons like Leyland did to make detroit even a .500 type team.

            i think Leyland learned from his mistakes he made while he was in Colorado.
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            • Bulldog
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 06-22-06
              • 839

              #7
              is this a closed argument?...
              cause I dont think so...
              Larussa, Cox, Sciocia, Torre, Gibbons, Bochy... no votes???
              Ill vote for Bruce Bochy right now.
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              • bigboydan
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-10-05
                • 55420

                #8
                Originally posted by Bulldog
                is this a closed argument?...
                of course not bud.
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                • moses millsap
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-25-05
                  • 8289

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bulldog
                  is this a closed argument?...
                  cause I dont think so...
                  Larussa, Cox, Sciocia, Torre, Gibbons, Bochy... no votes???
                  Ill vote for Bruce Bochy right now.
                  You must be kidding me with Scoscia and Cox. Two of the managers that scare me the most with their in-game management of a team. Some guys who deserve some credit are Randolph, Macha, and Garner, imho.
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                  • Bulldog
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-22-06
                    • 839

                    #10
                    I agree with you about Macha and Garner.
                    Randolph I think has had too much talent given to him.
                    Sciocia is an aggresive manager, I like that. But I could still be hung up be thinking of the Angels of '02.
                    Cox is a different story. I think he's one of the best managers in the game and gets far less credit than he deserves. Of course the Braves underachieved some years but I dont think you can blame him.
                    He's continued to win (this year aside) getting his payroll cut and loosing star players almost every year. (Maddux, Glavine, Sheffield, Lopez, etc.)
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                    • clonecat
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-05
                      • 1225

                      #11
                      I'll vote for Ned Yost. Working with a bunch of nobody's (except for Carlos Lee who will be traded this month) without a true star pitcher and still doing well.
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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Cox is probably better than I want to admit, and I agree about Bochy being underrated.

                        But I'm not sure there's really one single 'best manager' in the game. Leyland's done a great job, no doubt about it. But I also think it's easy to get our panties wet over his sharp turnaround of a club that has been managed better in the front office the last few years and has been building some good talent that was in the system long before Leyland came aboard.

                        Leyland might be the best manager for the Tigers right now, and I'll include him on my short list of who I feel are the best today. But to just hand him the title 80-odd games into his first season back, I'll stop short there.

                        Garner, as much as I liked him as a player from the time he was with the Pirates and I first started to watch him, might be the best manager for the Astros, but he's proven he wasn't the best manager in other situations.

                        I do agree with ranking Duh-sty last on the current list, with Jim Tracy 29th. However, both of them would immediately move up one rung if some team was to bring back Jimy '1M' Williams or Terry "Destroyer of Bullpens' Collins who, ironically, always gave credit for his managerial style to Leyland.
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                        • Bulldog
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 06-22-06
                          • 839

                          #13
                          Just to add a little to the not so fast stakes lets remember Leyland fell short big time in the early 90's when his Pirates where pounded year in and year out by Cox's Braves.
                          Not a bad team either (Bonds, Van Slyke, Bonilla, Drabek, Belinda)... Francisco Cabrera... just kidding.
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                          • EBone
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 1787

                            #14
                            Originally posted by clonecat
                            I'll vote for Ned Yost. Working with a bunch of nobody's (except for Carlos Lee who will be traded this month) without a true star pitcher and still doing well.

                            I'll second this. Milwaukee has been god-awful. I think it is an absolute miracle that the Brewers are near .500. Yost deserves a lot of credit for keeping that ship somewhat together.

                            In April, I thought this team had a great shot to win the NL Central. Considering how this team has performed on the field, I think Yost has kept them within shouting distance. As I have commented before, I think the NL Central is absolutely awful. The Brewers still have time to right the ship because the teams in front of them are marginal at best.



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                            • bigboydan
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 55420

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Willie Bee
                              Cox is probably better than I want to admit

                              now that mazzoni's out of atlanta. you have to ask yourself was he all that great.

                              it's sure looking like maybe mazzoni was the brains behind the braves success for all those years. just for the fact that he knew how to press the right buttons on that braves staff all those years.
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                              • 5 star bomb
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-12-07
                                • 5370

                                #16
                                Lou Pinella
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                                • ryanXL977
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-24-08
                                  • 20615

                                  #17
                                  scosia
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                                  • element1286
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 02-25-08
                                    • 3370

                                    #18
                                    Leyland is a good manager for a veteran team, like the Tigers are. He never did anything with the young teams he was managing.
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                                    • Crayzee
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 4945

                                      #19
                                      ron gardenhire
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        i like gardy a lot too
                                        i like scoscia the most by far
                                        i like clint hurdle

                                        girardi seems to be bad
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                                        • Curse Fire
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 03-20-06
                                          • 241

                                          #21
                                          Ron Washington!!!



                                          Go Juice Go!!!
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            haha

                                            good one
                                            i wish!

                                            go mavs
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