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  • BlakeMile01
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-04-15
    • 166

    #1
    Stats if anyone cares
    I'm working on having a full database available soon, so for now I currently just post relevant stuff on Twitter, trying to remember to post here more often, these are all main draw stats only, I'm also working on getting qualifiers stats in the same format, and eventually ITF also will be part of the database which I aim to have a a subscription service for a very nominal & extremely affordable fee when launched

    but for now... here are some things that stood out

    Dulgheru Main Draw 2016:
    2-5-1 O/U as DOG (3-5-0 O/U R1) 1-1-0 R-CLAY
    conflict with:
    Wickmayer 6-3-0 O/U FAV (9-3-0 O/U R1) 3-1-0 O/U R-CLAY

    Dulgheru Main Draw YTD:
    2-6-1 R1 (2-6-1 DOG) 4-7-1 ALL ATS (1-2-0 ATS DOG line EVEN thru +4) 1-5-1 ATS R1 DOG)



    Konta Main Draw YTD R1 FAV 1-4-0 ATS (1-2-0 ATS as FAV on RED CLAY)

    K. Nara 2016 Main Draw 0-2-0 ATS ALL CLAY DOG (0-3-0 ATS ALL CLAY)
    YTD ALL SRF: 4-10-1 ATS (2-6-0 ATS DOG) 3-5-0 ATS R1 (1-2-0 ATS R1 DOG)

    Parmentier 2016 Main Draw:
    4-8 ML DOG, 4-4 ML R1, 3-4 ML DAYTIME DOG, however, conflict with 0-4 ML DOG EVEN to +160

    but Niculescu 1-3 FAV ML -101 to -180, 5-5 ML DAY FAV, 5-5 ML FAV, also conflict with 6-2 ML R1

    Puig 1-6-1 O/U when total is 18.5 thru 20.5 (5-6-0 O/U R1) (3-3-1 O/U RED CLAY) (4-5-1 O/U ALL CLAY) Govortsova 3-7-0 O/U DOG 3-6-1 O/U R1

    Babos 2-9-0 O/U all surfaces Total <20.5

    Time Babos Main Draw 2016:
    22-11-0 ATS (8-6-0 ATS FAV) (10-3-0 ATS R1) (8-3 ATS RED CLAY) (3-0 ATS RED CLAY FAV) (1-3-0 O/U CLAY TOT <20.5)
  • BlakeMile01
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-04-15
    • 166

    #2
    I'll try to remember to post some more later once the OOP is out since I also have court splits (center/stadium/grounds) as well as a lot of other crazy stats like VS player height >=<, VS seeded/WC/LL/QUAL, AS seeded/WC/LL/QUAL, VS country of origin, etc etc etc
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    • BlakeMile01
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-04-15
      • 166

      #3
      if anyone has any random stats they want looked up, feel free to ask, just reply to this thread
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      • Lightning
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-15-16
        • 647

        #4
        This would actually be very useful. I've got one for you - I've always held a theory (semi backed up by stats) that Djokovic generally doesn't cover his line against round 1, 2 and 3 opponents, but from the quarterfinal onwards, if you backed his line every time, you'd make money. Would you be able to check that one for me? Cheers
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        • fitguy67
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-13-11
          • 5082

          #5
          in a perfect world, the stat i'd like to have on hand for both players in a match i'm considering watching real-time with live-betting availability is this:

          % of matches won by A after A has won s1 (ideally broken down acc.to: "as a fave" vs. "as an outsider")
          %matches won by A after A has lost s1 (..."as a fave" vs. "as an outsider")...

          so, basically 4 % for each player...would probably be best to build this up for WTA first, as all matches are 3-setters, allowing for a further breakdown of the numbers by tourney-level (slams, 1000s, 500s, 250s) if you really wanted to go mad with the idea...

          wouldn't be surprised if books have a similar "book" on each player built into their live-betting platform's algorithms to re-set live-odds v. pre-match offerings after s1 has finished
          Last edited by fitguy67; 05-22-16, 09:53 PM.
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          • BlakeMile01
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-04-15
            • 166

            #6
            thanks for the replies guys, this season I just started with WTA Main Draw & Qualifying rounds only (I'm running a few weeks behind on the data entry for the qualifying so thats why I'm only posting Main draw for now) I've thought about adding ATP tour next year (but that workload would be intense doing both men & women, I'd literally need an employee at that point)

            Lightning, that theory is correct for a lot of WTA players, actually player ATS, ML, and O/U by round has become one of the very first things I look at when capping since I started this project in 2015, there are some players that literally "fall off the map" or become "auto-bet" based on the round of the event, Timea Bacsinszky last season for example was an "auto bet" in round 2, I didn't care what the spread was... but not so much this year...

            FitGuy, I could write a formula for that, and make it sortable by slams, premier 5, premier, international events... give me a bit, I'll get back to ya on that one

            I'm currently saving some changes so I can't look anything up for a little while but stay tuned later I'll try to post anything of major interest
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            • BlakeMile01
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-04-15
              • 166

              #7
              ALL STATS WTA MAIN DRAW ONLY:

              Serena Williams as FAV -7 or larger 3-2-1 ATS (has not been favored by -8 games YTD) Serena 9-12-3 ATS all surfaces YTD & 3-1-0 ATS when facing taller opposition

              Rybarikova 4-3-0 as DOG, 2-2-1 ATS R1,4-3-0 ATS vs shorter opposition

              Pereira 4-12-0 ATS YTD, (2-3-0 ATS as FAV) 4-9-0 ATS R1, 0-3-0 temp <70 degrees (forecast is for mid to high 60's Fahrenheit) has only covered once (1-6-0 ATS) when humidity is above 50% (forecast is 67% humidity) also has not covered (0-6-0 ATS) with wind speed <10 MPH (forecast is 5MPH)

              Conflict with Kr Pliskova 3-5-0 ATS as DOG (4-8-0 overall) 3-4-0 R1, 1-4-0 ATS humidity above 50%

              so pick your poison there.. personally I lean Baby Pliskova getting the 3.5 games...

              Crawford 3-4-0 ATS Humidity >50% (I posted Babos stats yesterday, I like Babos -6) even though Crawford is 5-4-0 ATS as DOG, she is also 2-4-0 ATS R1 (Babos is also 2-2 ML VS Americans YTD)

              Babos Ironically is 15-6-1 O/U on totals 21 and greater (currently 21 @ 5dimes) but is 1-7-0 O/U when total is exactly 20.5... 5-8-1 O/U as FAV 8-4-1 O/U R1 (7-3-1 O/U total exactly 21)

              Crawford is 3-6-0 O/U as DOG (3-3-0 O/U R1)

              Mladenovic 3-8-0 O/U R1 6-8-0 AS FAV (6-12-0 total O/U 21 or greater)

              Schiavone 1-4-0 as DOG (1-5-0 R1 / 0-3-0 R1 as DOG)

              Puig 8-2-0 R1 as FAV

              Dodin 0-2-0 ATS R1 DOG Dodin YTD 0-2-0 ATS DOG / Ivanovic 3-3-1 ATS R1 (FAV 9-12-0 ATS ALL) 7-11-0 ATS ALL FAV

              Nara 4-10-1 ATS ALL (2-6-0 ALL AS DOG) 3-5-0 ATS R1 (1-5-0 ATS Humidity >50%)

              Putintseva 12-11-2 ATS ALL, (8-3-0 ATS FAV) 6-3-0 ATS R1 (4-4-2 ATS Wind <10MPH) but Putintseva is only 5-10-2 ATS VS taller opposition YTD

              Azarenka as FAV player Team total point listed 12 or 12.5 is 5-22-0 to under

              Donna Vekic is 1-5 ML VS a seeded player as a DOG but 4-2-0 ATS VS seeded as DOG

              so there is a few trends... hope everyone likes it... I'm done for the night BOL to everyone with your wagers, like previously stated, eventually this will be a sub service for a VERY nominal fee (basically what it takes to host the database, not trying to make a profit) right now I'm all out of pocket, but want to let you guys start to see the data I have, hope to launch start of 2017

              and FitGuy67, I'll build that easy... just give me till after the first rounds of Paris... opening rounds of majors are a swift kick to the nuts on data
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              • BlakeMile01
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-04-15
                • 166

                #8
                thats as much as I felt like typing... sorry... and Fit Guy, I'll build that formula in the next week or so

                anyone else have requests?
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                • BlakeMile01
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-04-15
                  • 166

                  #9
                  Fit Guy, I'll have that built very soon for you, I'll do anything to gain a customer
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                  • BlakeMile01
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-04-15
                    • 166

                    #10
                    I can also build in a column where if the FAV is greater than said price to start match and looses set 1 and other shit like that....

                    I have over 1000 main draw WTA matches in Excel from this 2016 season & can build damn near anything....

                    I'm just trying to get input before I make it a charged (nominal fee) service in 2017

                    people like you that contribute will obviously get a discount
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                    • Lightning
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 05-15-16
                      • 647

                      #11
                      Blake - something like this deserves more than a nominal fee. It's something incredible useful.
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                      • BlakeMile01
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-04-15
                        • 166

                        #12
                        Thanks for the kind words Lightning, I've yet to even figure a cost, since I'm still in the building process

                        some Stats for tomorrow (these are ALL ATS 2nd Round MAIN DRAW)

                        Parmentier 3-1-1
                        Falconi 1-4-0
                        Sviolina 4-2-0
                        Townsend 0-0-0 (first R2 Main Draw appearance YTD)
                        Halep 3-5-1
                        Diyas 3-3-0
                        Rogers 1-2-0
                        Vesnina 4-3-0
                        Watson 3-2-0
                        Kuzzy 2-6-0
                        Osaka 2-2-1
                        Lucic 4-1-1
                        Pavlyuchenkova 2-5-0
                        Buyukakcay 3-0-0
                        Hsieh 1-5-1
                        Kvitova 3-5-0
                        Muguruza 4-5-1
                        Georges 4-3-0
                        Stosur 2-6-1
                        Zhang 2-3-1
                        Golubic 1-0-0
                        Safarova 0-7-0
                        Makanrova 1-7-1
                        Wickmayer 4-1-0
                        Vandeweghe 4-0-0
                        Begu 2-3-1
                        Pironkova 1-3-0
                        Larsson 4-3-0
                        Bondarenko 3-3-0
                        Beck 3-3-0
                        Garcia 3-2-0
                        A Radwanska 2-4-2
                        Cepede 1-1-0
                        Stephens 2-6-2
                        Strycova 4-5-0
                        Hercog 1-2-0

                        gotta do data entry then save, I'lll try to post more before I put my head to the pillow
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                        • BlakeMile01
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-04-15
                          • 166

                          #13
                          Georges stat is not correct, I accidentally looked at Julia Goerges, Myrtle Goerges has not advanced to R2 YTD
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                          • maletaja
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 01-09-12
                            • 319

                            #14
                            I have some theory
                            1)Nadal- 3-0 sets are underestimated, he never leaves set to the opponnet while Djoko could do that, same Ferrer
                            2)Serena wont demolish weaker opponnets earlier rounds. She could win 6-0 6-0 but she wins like 6-4 6-3
                            3)unknown H2H where players havnt met before. For example Halep vs unknown 180cm+ hitter (Pliskova) or Serena vs Zheng?Bookies put Halep to heavy favorit status, but she might not be. There could be things that favorit dislike-lefthanded,hitter,clay,grass and "easy opponent" on paper are quite inconvenient.


                            So another words stat could solve those problems and i follow that topic
                            Last edited by maletaja; 05-24-16, 04:41 PM.
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                            • BlakeMile01
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 12-04-15
                              • 166

                              #15
                              I have left/right stats, and can filter them any which way you dream up, I have a lot more than I have posted, mainly because the data entry that I have to do at the start of a major or when there are simultaneous Premier/Premier 5 events starting is such an ass kicking, I pretty much live at my computer those first few rounds

                              and I have much more planned for expansion in the 2017 season
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                              • BlakeMile01
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-04-15
                                • 166

                                #16
                                in 2017 my stats will include Qualifying rounds & a custom line builder (where the user an add & subtract parts of a formula based on how they cap) and many other things I have planned or currently developing

                                taking applications for ATP main draw data entry for 2017
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                                • BlakeMile01
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-04-15
                                  • 166

                                  #17
                                  Maletaja, your theory is correct Serena by round YTD

                                  R1:0-1-0 (had a lot of byes)
                                  R2:2-2-0
                                  R3:1-3-2
                                  R4:2-1-0
                                  QF:2-1-1
                                  SF:2-1-0

                                  BUT... in FINALS 0-3-0 ATS

                                  also 4-12-3 ATS at night & 9-12-3 ATS on CENTER COURT
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                                  • BlakeMile01
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-04-15
                                    • 166

                                    #18
                                    Serena O/U

                                    R1:1-0-0
                                    R2:1-2-1
                                    R3:3-1-0
                                    R4:1-2-0
                                    QF:0-3-0
                                    SF:1-2-0
                                    FIN:2-1-0

                                    (keep in mind this does not include Roland Garros currently) I'm finishing Round 1 data entry which kicks my ass, (big events always kick my ass on data entry) and the DB is so big now it takes about 2 hours to pull a save after data entry... why I'm putting this out for free cause I gotta get a Mac Pro to have the power to run this in a timely manner
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                                    • BlakeMile01
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-04-15
                                      • 166

                                      #19
                                      the reason I've waited so long to post stats is I wanted to be so far ahead that no matter someones database knowledge, my information would be un paralleled, no human could backtrack at this point & catch up (I know this for various reasons I cannot disclose)
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                                      • BlakeMile01
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-04-15
                                        • 166

                                        #20
                                        first LH player Svitolina has seen YTD
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                                        • Lightning
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-15-16
                                          • 647

                                          #21
                                          Nice work mate. I'm assuming for the stats above, it's in the format: COVERED THE SPREAD - HAS NOT COVERED THE SPREAD - PUSH

                                          and for the o/u, it's : OVER - UNDER - PUSH

                                          Is that correct? Are you also getting the lines from pinnacle?
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                                          • BlakeMile01
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-04-15
                                            • 166

                                            #22
                                            I use 5Dimes closing lines, player totals are from bovada, but when I have an indifference I take the TTP from betUS

                                            correct its always WIN-LOSS-PUSH & OVER-UNDER-PUSH
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                                            • BlakeMile01
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-04-15
                                              • 166

                                              #23
                                              98% of TTP stats are from bovada, but I'll adjust a half point sometimes when I get a -140 ish fav and I see a 12 at betUS, same with the -5 & -5.5 lines, I use my own discretion
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                                              • BlakeMile01
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-04-15
                                                • 166

                                                #24
                                                all totals are 5dimes closing totals as well, only differ is how I grade the player totals, which is 98% bovada, unless its priced out then I log the betUS TTP
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                                                • BlakeMile01
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-04-15
                                                  • 166

                                                  #25
                                                  pulling a save now, everything I post is March 23 and Prior (I'll do the rest of R1 March 24 tomorrow) unless you like hours in front of Excel LOL

                                                  takes about 2 hours to save.... so I'll post then.... its a big file, no joke
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                                                  • BlakeMile01
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-04-15
                                                    • 166

                                                    #26
                                                    your assumption is correct Lightning

                                                    thanks for the support bud
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                                                    • A.M.S.
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 06-26-10
                                                      • 835

                                                      #27
                                                      Blake... what's ur Twitter
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                                                      • BlakeMile01
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-04-15
                                                        • 166

                                                        #28
                                                        im @blakemile I also am BlakeMile on SBR but forgot my password
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                                                        • BlakeMile01
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-04-15
                                                          • 166

                                                          #29
                                                          at 17% save so I'm gonna watch a movie or something
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                                                          • BlakeMile01
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 12-04-15
                                                            • 166

                                                            #30
                                                            at 23% save, watching Deadliest Catch LOL (that show where idiots go fish crab) don't think I'm going to update stats, but hang tight, I might get a bug up my ass and wake before dawn USA time (I've done that before)
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                                                            • BlakeMile01
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-04-15
                                                              • 166

                                                              #31
                                                              I'm really glad they fish crab, I like crab
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                                                              • frugalgambler
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-30-13
                                                                • 3418

                                                                #32
                                                                Out of curiosity what the performance of your stats in R1 of this RG ? o/u, ats, atp vs wta ? If you have time that is.
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                                                                • BlakeMile01
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-04-15
                                                                  • 166

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I love crab fisherman, thats official
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                                                                  • BlakeMile01
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-04-15
                                                                    • 166

                                                                    #34
                                                                    R1 stats killed it, 75% ish give or take, & I don't do ATP yet, I'll have to hire someone to do ATP in 2017
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                                                                    • BlakeMile01
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-04-15
                                                                      • 166

                                                                      #35
                                                                      keeping up with the WTA tour is a job of itself, adding the ATP means I need a co worker, but I haven't run "official" numbers for round one, but I would guess 75-80 ish ATS felt like a good day
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