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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRaid View Post
    I don't know anything about previous situations, only what i have read in this thread. Its seems that if you have a case of wrongdoing Rebatewager gives SBR the right to judge the situation, which i think is an excellent decision.

    So just follow the rules, pick winners and you get paid.
    An A Book would do the right thing in the first place instead of having SBR explain it to them. Even a B Book should know how to deal fairly with its clients. RW is in neither of these categories IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    An A Book would do the right thing in the first place instead of having SBR explain it to them. Even a B Book should know how to deal fairly with its clients. RW is in neither of these categories IMO.
    agree but these guys do not sound like they have a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    An A Book would do the right thing in the first place instead of having SBR explain it to them. Even a B Book should know how to deal fairly with its clients. RW is in neither of these categories IMO.
    Fair enough HH. I personally had never read there rules until i seen this thread.

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    Just picked up the money, but I got shown the door at Rebate Wager which sucks. I really enjoyed playing there. So RW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    Just picked up the money, but I got shown the door at Rebate Wager which sucks. I really enjoyed playing there. So RW
    how did you get the money without an ID?

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    Good to hear Jrod. I am glad it all worked out.

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    They told me yesterday that they were going to send me a **. So I went to the DMV this morning and got a State ID card that was accepted at the Walmart where I picked up the money. I am lazy, thats why I never did it before, but for 1,600 bucks I am willing to stand in line for 2 hours and get one. Now I have the money and a ID, so I guess it worked out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    They told me yesterday that they were going to send me a **. So I went to the DMV this morning and got a State ID card that was accepted at the Walmart where I picked up the money. I am lazy, thats why I never did it before, but for 1,600 bucks I am willing to stand in line for 2 hours and get one. Now I have the money and a ID, so I guess it worked out
    i would stand in line for 2 weeks for $1,600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    Just picked up the money, but I got shown the door at Rebate Wager which sucks. I really enjoyed playing there. So RW

    that is a good thing now you don't have to deal with bookies that have no clue.

    go deposit some of that $1600 into betphoenix,greek,betjam

    you will have nothing to worrry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    Yeah I asked to be sent under my fathers name, because I don't have a ID. But if I have to get a check thats fine. I can simply deposit it in my bank account. Customer Service could use a little work though, this guy "Leo" wasn't very nice
    And you didn't have to have your father pick up the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyShop101 View Post
    Just go to the local DMV and get a regular state ID. Takes just a few minutes if the lines not long. Thats what everyone else does that loses their drivers license to points.
    This was a good post.

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    Wow. Interesting topic....imho most bookies wouldn't pay under these circumstances....

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    There is not a single offshore book that would have paid this guy.

    He used all fake info which violates every sportsbooks rules.

    Yet some of you guys come in here and support the guy

    Rules are rules yet all you stupid ****s that can not read do not have a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    Just picked up the money, but I got shown the door at Rebate Wager which sucks. I really enjoyed playing there. So RW

    It sucks that you are a piece of crap

    You start a thread with lies and keep it up the whole time.

    Half these idiots back you up about the phone number but you lied about your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    They told me yesterday that they were going to send me a **. So I went to the DMV this morning and got a State ID card that was accepted at the Walmart where I picked up the money. I am lazy, thats why I never did it before, but for 1,600 bucks I am willing to stand in line for 2 hours and get one. Now I have the money and a ID, so I guess it worked out

    Glad for $1600 you are willing to stand in line

    And people say American kids are fat and lazy , you showed them kid

    Are you old enough to drive ?

    Or did you lose your license to DUI's ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokernut9999 View Post
    There is not a single offshore book that would have paid this guy.

    He used all fake info which violates every sportsbooks rules.

    Yet some of you guys come in here and support the guy

    Rules are rules yet all you stupid ****s that can not read do not have a clue.

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    I lost it because I got too many tickets man, How did I lie about my name? I wanted to have my dad pick it up cause I didn't feel like going to get a ID. So kindly stop spreading lies about me. They sent the money to the name on the account. If it was a fake name how did I get the money? Get your facts str8. I gave a wrong phone number thats it. BFD Everything else was correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    I lost it because I got too many tickets man, How did I lie about my name? I wanted to have my dad pick it up cause I didn't feel like going to get a ID. So kindly stop spreading lies about me. They sent the money to the name on the account. If it was a fake name how did I get the money? Get your facts str8. I gave a wrong phone number thats it. BFD Everything else was correct
    I believe you are the one that spread lies here.

    You are the one without a license and the one that admits they are too lazy to even have an ID

    Your reputation speaks loudly for you

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    Keep telling people I signed up using all fake info. Cause if that was the case I wouldn't have gotten paid. Some ppl just read what I want and don't get all the facts str8. Its sad

    I don't have DL, yep I ****ed up. Too many tickets. I didn't feel like waiting in line to get a ID. Most books have no problem paying out if the last name is the same. Check into it. Jazz, Betjamaica are a couple solid books who had no problem paying me via ** to a family member. But RW would only do it to me, so I got a State ID.

    What have I a lied about, pokernut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrod124 View Post
    Keep telling people I signed up using all fake info. Cause if that was the case I wouldn't have gotten paid. Some ppl just read what I want and don't get all the facts str8. Its sad

    I don't have DL, yep I ****ed up. Too many tickets. I didn't feel like waiting in line to get a ID. Most books have no problem paying out if the last name is the same. Check into it. Jazz, Betjamaica are a couple solid books who had no problem paying me via ** to a family member. But RW would only do it to me, so I got a State ID.

    What have I a lied about, pokernut?
    I'm thinking you opened the extra RW account in your dad's name. He picked up the money for you.

    RW said you used a different email, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    agree but these guys do not sound like they have a clue.
    The people people in this thread who are clueless are you and hedgehog. I have forgotten more about this business then you will ever know. I take more action on Sunday from single players on one NFL side then you will most likely wager this year. Yet you think that a kid who signs up for a contest and provides misleading information and a player who disregards our rules are worth taking shots at my credibility. I've provided SBR with my references. Where are yours?

    So many guys in this forum are lucky that they can bet online because some of the crap that they try to pull would get them a well deserved smack from a local.

    This isn't about asking for a payout to a name other then yours or putting in a fake phone number when creating your account . It's not about placing a wager after the alloted time frame. It's about respecting the rules.

    In every aspect in life there are rules and when rules are broken there are consequences, however so many poster run to SBR when they think they are wronged when in reality all they have to do is follow the rules.

    Players should take comfort in the fact that we are open to discussing player claims with SBR and in most instances will follow their recommendations.

    I may be new to the post up business but I am not new to this business. I treat my players with respect, pay them promptly when they win and give them more chances then most books to get there money back when they lose.

    I'll say this in closing. As long as players follow our rules they will have no problems with any of my products. They will be paid within the timeframes and guarantees posted on our site and they will be treated with the courtesy and respect they deserve.

    For those that choose to ignore them there will be no second chances.

    90% of the players in this business lose over there lifetime and if you can't understand the value of 50% CASH BACK then you are the ones that are truly clueless.

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    Get up to 50% cash back - no strings attached.
    This really sounds good- gamblers insurance right away- instead of waiting 6 months like other books who offer a percentage on losses, but they are more like 15%!

    YOUR MONEY CREDITED IN 20 MINUTES OR GET $500.00 IN FREE PLAY
    I've made a couple deposits to 2 separate high rated books in the last 3 weeks. One gave me the wrong country to send to, and the other took over an hour to get the money in my account. Both times I missed out on getting my wagers in, and in both instances I missed out on making money as they both won.

    GET PAID IN ONE DAY OR GET $500.00 IN FREE PLAY
    Some high rated books still take 3 or more days.


    Blackie,

    These 3 combined with SBR's recommendation, and knowing that you and your reps are here on the SBR forum and not running from any questions means a lot. I just ordered the debit card, and am looking forward to to playing at RebateWager.


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    Blackie I have a question. What happens to a player who follows all your rules, always pays in a timely manner, but in your estimation does not fall into the 90%?

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    Blackie:

    FWIW, I agree with your decision to pay the name on file in the current case against RW. But as usual, I'm sure SBR had to nudge you in the right direction as your first inclination was to steal. My problem is and remains with the way you cheated the teaser player back in October, by invoking a "calendar" week rule on opens. A completely assinine rule to somehow legitimize your theft. Again, SBR needed to show RW the proper path and at least he got some of his money back, minimizing your theft in that case. Makes me wonder how many other cases go unreported.

    It's difficult enough to win at your Book: 20 cent lines, no overnight #s, and ties lose on all teasers (instead of reducing to the next win level). And if some lucky shmuck hits a four-teamer, you look for ways to screw him out of his payout. No wonder you offer 50% back on losses--no one stands a fair shot at winning at RW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magynuck View Post
    Blackie I have a question. What happens to a player who follows all your rules, always pays in a timely manner, but in your estimation does not fall into the 90%?
    This business needs winners without them no one would get paid and no one would gamble. We like to pay winners because it is the only way people know that we pay.

    If you are a true handicapper and can pick winners then you'll get paid. If all you do is follow the number or play the hot sides and don't give us any square business then we will most likely show you the door.

    Rebatewager is for recreational players period. Ou other brands handle the heat.

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    How can we steal from a player that knows the rules, knows the consequebces of breaking those rules and chooses not to follow those rules. If you don't like the rules, don't play with us period but don't go running to SBR like some little school girl because you feel wronged.

    This wasn't an obscure rule that was used to cancel a bet after it was made. This was a rule that the playerv was aware of before placing the bet and was aware of the consequences. He choose not to follow it. He should except the consequences and based on our posted rules those consequences result in a loss.

    If you break the rules in society you suffer consequences. Why should it be any different in online betting?

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    So I would get shown the door at Rebate but not Blackdog if I picked winners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magynuck View Post
    So I would get shown the door at Rebate but not Blackdog if I picked winners?
    That decision would be up to the lines manager and if he determines that your actions falls into a category that would warrant showing you the door then it would'nt matter if you were playing at RB or BD. You would probally be show the door faste at BD since you are palying with our money (credit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Blackie:

    FWIW, I agree with your decision to pay the name on file in the current case against RW. But as usual, I'm sure SBR had to nudge you in the right direction as your first inclination was to steal. My problem is and remains with the way you cheated the teaser player back in October, by invoking a "calendar" week rule on opens. A completely assinine rule to somehow legitimize your theft. Again, SBR needed to show RW the proper path and at least he got some of his money back, minimizing your theft in that case. Makes me wonder how many other cases go unreported.

    It's difficult enough to win at your Book: 20 cent lines, no overnight #s, and ties lose on all teasers (instead of reducing to the next win level). And if some lucky shmuck hits a four-teamer, you look for ways to screw him out of his payout. No wonder you offer 50% back on losses--no one stands a fair shot at winning at RW.
    This will be my last post for the morning as I need to leave for a meeting.

    In the case of paying to the name that was used on the sign up that was not SBRs call it was mine. You can check with them on that one. I would rather send a payout and let it sit in limbo at ** then let someone steal from me or accuse me of not paying.

    You talk about how difficult it is to win with our offerings but what you don't realize is how difficult it is for books to make money when so many books give their advantage to the players.

    Our offerings haven't changed drastically in the last twenty years and they won't. We believe in keeping our advatage, That is what a bookmaker should do.


    Most new Sportsbooks that give away the house's advantage and that's why they fail. We are not going to give away ours and that's why we won't.

    BET ON IT!

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    they are a losers book only.


    so you can dangle that 50% crap all you want. if anyone shows they have a pulse you limit them.

    i have read about you guys and your limits so please stop with the shit already.

    let me bet 2k a game and give me 50% back on losses with no strings attached and lets see how you like it?

    you are a rec book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLACKIE View Post
    That decision would be up to the lines manager and if he determines that your actions falls into a category that would warrant showing you the door then it would'nt matter if you were playing at RB or BD. You would probally be show the door faste at BD since you are palying with our money (credit).

    book to losers only.

    you want me to defend your actions on making excuses to try and justify maybe stealing $1600

    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    they are a losers book only.


    so you can dangle that 50% crap all you want. if anyone shows they have a pulse you limit them.

    i have read about you guys and your limits so please stop with the shit already.

    let me bet 2k a game and give me 50% back on losses with no strings attached and lets see how you like it?

    you are a rec book.
    Bring it. Waiting for your deposit. If you think 2k a game scares me you really are clueless.

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    I'm done here BigDaddy. You brought it up so lets see how big your balls are. You want 2k a game. I'm waiting.

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    Having been shown the door at Blackdog, I still cannot say anything bad about them. They treated me in a professional manner and were always pleasant and courteous. As opposed to the other newer credit shop which will remain nameless, the difference is like night and day. I never worried about getting paid from the Dog. It is definitely a rec shop though and while my wagers were relatively small I do miss playing there and the good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magynuck View Post
    Having been shown the door at Blackdog, I still cannot say anything bad about them. They treated me in a professional manner and were always pleasant and courteous. As opposed to the other newer credit shop which will remain nameless, the difference is like night and day. I never worried about getting paid from the Dog. It is definitely a rec shop though and while my wagers were relatively small I do miss playing there and the good people.
    when did they stop you 10K 15K etc?

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