WHY DO YOU PLAY OFFSHORE - I REALLY WANT to KNOW

[LeahMichele]

Seriously I wonder what the appeal to sending money offshore and exposing urself to all the BS IS ? I can think of only a few reasons but none of them make it worthwhile.

1. You like the extra betting options that a local wont offer and having an online casino to chase losses.

2. You cant find a local.

3. You owe ur guy money so you just went offshore.

I cant think of any reasons. #1 extra options like halftime and quarter betting will just make you lose more. #2 its easy to find a local #3 just pay ur guy.

Seriously the offshore industry has become a bigger joke than iy already was. It looks like the latest A+ Book to have "processor issues" is 5 dimes. The offshore industry has been using that same excuse to slow/no pay since back when I believed in santa.

And if ur one of those who play the " play at an A book and you will be ok" card. Im sorry but ur crazy. A and A+ books drop like flies. I did a waybackmachine search for this site and i looked at the top 5 books this site had listed 10 years ago. You would not be impressed. 4 out of 5 became outright scams.

CANBET was #1 along with betroyal.

I was playing at Dalton Wagners books because all the "watchdogs" gave his books an A+. He stiffed me for $1425 and others for a lot more.

The "watchdogs" didnt offer shit for giving us terrible advice. It was other books offering bailouts but that required steep deposits and rollovers and continued faith in a terrible industry. Few players had all 3.

Im just saying. Understand the risk ur taking and dont think just because a book is SBR rated A that they wont screw you.

Canbet was once an A book.

So what are your reasons. Do they justify doing something that you would never do in a billion years if it wasnt to gamble. Ie - sending ur money and personal info to a strangers in god knows where ?

[funnyb25]

ur angry

[LeahMichele]

Yeah im angry.

Racrac being fukked by bovada.
A couple more being stalled by 5 dimes
Half the board got scammed by Canbet a while back.

These all were A books at one time.

Yeah im angry

[LeahMichele]

Im just saying whats wrong with a local ?

Just get him paid off and he will start taking ur action again.

[ThaWoj]

Cheers Jon kreta

[Da Manster!]

good luck finding a local that does more than just football!.......and very few, and I mean a very few, will do both football and basketball...and if you ever hit him up for like $2000 like I did way back when, good luck when he decides to go on the lam!...

[ThaWoj]

Most ppl don't wanna fukk with locals.
The shroud of secrecy behind a computer screen is more appealing.

[LeahMichele]

Most ppl don't wanna fukk with locals.
The shroud of secrecy behind a computer screen is more appealing.

Secrecy until you try to get paid then they need all ur personal information. Nothing you do on your computer is as secret as you think anyway.

[LeahMichele]

good luck finding a local that does more than just football!.......and very few, and I mean a very few, will do both football and basketball...and if you ever hit him up for like $2000 like I did way back when, good luck when he decides to go on the lam!...

Every local i evet bet with offered all 3 major sports and usually hockey. Every one could pay you 10k easy without sweating it.

[vividjohn45]

The offshore casinos are kickin it. Not.

[LeahMichele]

My local guys john and ray were around before any internet book and they have outlasted more A+ books than you will ever see again. They just dont offer props like how many balls will kershaw throw. Do you really need that shit to make money though or is that just degenerate alley ?

[vividjohn45]

Offshore casinos are degenerate alley. Turns them off before you deposit

[LeahMichele]

I actually heard a rumor that my guy is a millionaire from takung 10% juice for the past 35 + years.

I dont know if its true all i know is I have gotten lucky a few times ( not many ) and picked up a few grand at a time and he never blinked and never had processor issues. I once picked up $8600 and I was thinking if he asks for a couple days I will say fine. I went in and he paid me 8600 like he didnt give a fuk.

[biggie12]

A local would not be able to handle large action. And if they do they laying off your action and juicing you more

Using only local gives you no outs to hedge.

Live betting usually heavily juiced about 15-20pts on PPH sites more then offshore.

What if you win big and he cant pay?

What if your a degen and lose and cant afford to pay?


JJ chime in.

You know everything about everything

[LeahMichele]

I agree with you about not offering live bets.

But "if you win big and he cant pay" is a problem much more common with offshores. I have never seen anyone in here saying their local couldnt pay. I have never even heard of that. Only heard of no pays being offshores.

Like i said rumor is local became a millionaire off of 10% and parlay cards.

My guy will take up to $1000 bet easy and if you want more he will find someone to take it for you.
Truth is 95%+ bet $50 or less. Very very few dropping a G on a game so if you want 10G on a game he will find a way. He knows a lot of other locals he can lay it off on if he doesnt want the exposure.

Truth is if ur sending $50,000-$100,000 offshore so you have powder for these big bets ur eventually gonna get fukked so hard you will never go offshore again.

[RudyRuetigger]

[biggie12]

I agree with you about not offering live bets.

But "if you win big and he cant pay" is a problem much more common with offshores. I have never seen anyone in here saying their local couldnt pay. I have never even heard of that. Only heard of no pays being offshores.

Like i said rumor is local became a millionaire off of 10% and parlay cards.

My guy will take up to $1000 bet easy and if you want more he will find someone to take it for you.
Truth is 95%+ bet $50 or less. Very very few dropping a G on a game so if you want 10G on a game he will find a way. He knows a lot of other locals he can lay it off on if he doesnt want the exposure.

Truth is if ur sending $50,000-$100,000 offshore so you have powder for these big bets ur eventually gonna get fukked so hard you will never go offshore again.

Leah i guess if you are living in the states its a different story.

Here in canada i have had balances of over 100k on bet365 and pinnacle Multiple times and have never been worried about being paid out.

Only time i was ever worried about getting paid is when i won a huge parlay on diamondsports (betdsi) book. $800USD fee and 3 business days later i was paid every cent.

You are right though if you are a $50 bettor there is really no point to using offshore if you have the option of a local.

[goduke]

I've been betting offshore for 8 years and never had one payout issue. You're not doing things right if you are encountering problems.

[jjgold]

Most people it's the best option available

[badgerguy]

1. Had local
2. Local scammed me out of $475 bucks
3. Bovada always has paid me on time
4. Bovada offers poker which I care more about

[biggie12]

Leah i guess if you are living in the states its a different story.

Here in canada i have had balances of over 100k on bet365 and pinnacle Multiple times and have never been worried about being paid out.

Only time i was ever worried about getting paid is when i won a huge parlay on diamondsports (betdsi) book. $800USD fee and 3 business days later i was paid every cent.

You are right though if you are a $50 bettor there is really no point to using offshore if you have the option of a local.

If you had a local 12-15 years ago. There were HUGE ADVANTAGES to having both local and offshore. The best is when locals would record the lines on an answering machine in the morning. And you could hammer out better lines offshore right up untill game time.

P.S Work out a deal with your local to get 10% of net losses of "Your friends bets" Tell him you are covering their losses if they dont pay. NOW YOU ARE BETTING ALMOST JUICE FREE.

oh to be in the early 2000's again.

[badgerguy]

I agree with you about not offering live bets.

But "if you win big and he cant pay" is a problem much more common with offshores. I have never seen anyone in here saying their local couldnt pay. I have never even heard of that. Only heard of no pays being offshores.

Like i said rumor is local became a millionaire off of 10% and parlay cards.

My guy will take up to $1000 bet easy and if you want more he will find someone to take it for you.
Truth is 95%+ bet $50 or less. Very very few dropping a G on a game so if you want 10G on a game he will find a way. He knows a lot of other locals he can lay it off on if he doesnt want the exposure.

Truth is if ur sending $50,000-$100,000 offshore so you have powder for these big bets ur eventually gonna get fukked so hard you will never go offshore again.

I had a thread about this about two months ago. Local scammed me out of $475. Local is a member of this board. Fuk him.

[Da Manster!]

Every local i evet bet with offered all 3 major sports and usually hockey. Every one could pay you 10k easy without sweating it.

well I'm 45 years old so maybe times have changed but it wasn't always like that I can assure you...growing up and gambling for the last 30 years or so, most locals only did football and most had limits on how much you could wager...you are one lucky dude to have locals that play all three major sports......PS...who is that in your avatar?!...

[biggie12]

well I'm 45 years old so maybe times have changed but it wasn't always like that I can assure you...growing up and gambling for the last 30 years or so, most locals only did football and most had limits on how much you could wager...you are one lucky dude to have locals that play all three major sports......PS...who is that in your avatar?!...

From what i know most locals now are using PPH that just clone offshore sites. The Agent or "bookie" can choose whichever sports and type of lines they want to offer.

[Da Manster!]

I agree with you about not offering live bets.

But "if you win big and he cant pay" is a problem much more common with offshores. I have never seen anyone in here saying their local couldnt pay. I have never even heard of that. Only heard of no pays being offshores.

Like i said rumor is local became a millionaire off of 10% and parlay cards.

My guy will take up to $1000 bet easy and if you want more he will find someone to take it for you.
Truth is 95%+ bet $50 or less. Very very few dropping a G on a game so if you want 10G on a game he will find a way. He knows a lot of other locals he can lay it off on if he doesnt want the exposure.

Truth is if ur sending $50,000-$100,000 offshore so you have powder for these big bets ur eventually gonna get fukked so hard you will never go offshore again.

Originally Posted by Da Manster!
good luck finding a local that does more than just football!.......and very few, and I mean a very few, will do both football and basketball...and if you ever hit him up for like $2000 like I did way back when, good luck when he decides to go on the lam!...

[Da Manster!]

From what i know most locals now are using PPH that just clone offshore sites. The Agent or "bookie" can choose whichever sports and type of lines they want to offer.

thanks biggie!......well, that explains a lot then...so they basically use offshore books as their books for sides, totals, etc. and just copy it...makes sense...I wonder if the local allows all the games or only certain ones?...I also wonder if the local does parlays, teasers, etc. (something that I excel at)?....I might have to check into this in my area although I must admit that I haven't been disappointed by Heritage or Bookmaker (my only two books) just yet!...

[The Kraken]

Two main reasons

Access to exchanges
Able to stash cash

The outs are nice but not worth it alone

[LeahMichele]

I've been betting offshore for 8 years and never had one payout issue. You're not doing things right if you are encountering problems.

Lol. Everyone says that until its them. Tell me please - what did the 500+ posters who got fuked by canbet do wrong besides listening to the A rating SBR Gave the book ?

What did racrac do wrong thatd causing him to what 2+ months for a withdraw from a So called " top 5 book"

What did the thousands who got fukked by aces gold (Rating A) do wrong. Do tell.

[LeahMichele]

Leah i guess if you are living in the states its a different story.

Here in canada i have had balances of over 100k on bet365 and pinnacle Multiple times and have never been worried about being paid out.

Only time i was ever worried about getting paid is when i won a huge parlay on diamondsports (betdsi) book. $800USD fee and 3 business days later i was paid every cent.

You are right though if you are a $50 bettor there is really no point to using offshore if you havet the option of a local.

Yeah most are less than 50 per play. People talk bigger than actual bets. Maybe im just lucky. Never thought there was any problem finding a local but it will be full juice and no bonus.

[LeahMichele]

If you had a local 12-15 years ago. There were HUGE ADVANTAGES to having both local and offshore. The best is when locals would record the lines on an answering machine in the morning. And you could hammer out better lines offshore right up untill game time.

P.S Work out a deal with your local to get 10% of net losses of "Your friends bets" Tell him you are covering their losses if they dont pay. NOW YOU ARE BETTING ALMOST JUICE FREE.

oh to be in the early 2000's again.

Not my guy. He would update the lines anytime his boss called and gave him an update

[LeahMichele]

well I'm 45 years old so maybe times have changed but it wasn't always like that I can assure you...growing up and gambling for the last 30 years or so, most locals only did football and most had limits on how much you could wager...you are one lucky dude to have locals that play all three major sports......PS...who is that in your avatar?!...

Hot girl from youtube. Shes 19. Youtube famous

[Nick Papageorgio]

Recently retired from offshores. However, my bookie only accepts me if I post up after slow paying him 1k over the course of a year.

[gilbert91016]

well I'm 45 years old so maybe times have changed but it wasn't always like that I can assure you...growing up and gambling for the last 30 years or so, most locals only did football and most had limits on how much you could wager...you are one lucky dude to have locals that play all three major sports......PS...who is that in your avatar?!...

My local offers whatever cris offers. 👍

[biggie12]

Where u from leah

[Bengals28]

Can't find local