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    2016 NBA Finals • Golden State vs. Cleveland (II)

    this is going to happen again.. no team in the West can match the Warriors,
    and no team in the East can match the Cavs on a mission.

    both teams will improve.

    Should be quite a series... I give Cavs edge in players.. and coaching edge to the Warriors.

    Cavs in 6

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    Ratzz, this is their last NBA finals appearance. They will be crushed by Memphis, Houston or even possibly by clippers before they can reach western conference finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pronk View Post
    Ratzz, this is their last NBA finals appearance. They will be crushed by Memphis, Houston or even possibly by clippers before they can reach western conference finals.
    Clippers might step up... Rockets too.. Clips just added Lance Stephenson

    should be interesting

    i really think Cavs readily defeat GSW if all present. should be good next year.
    Coaching is an issue. I wish Cavs had Jeff Van Gundy, that dude is SHARP.

    most observant and intelligent NBA analyst. sees every detail that everybody else misses.
    I think with Van Gundy, Cavs take both games in Golden St.
    return to Cleveland up 2-0

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    t Wolves.

    Towns is Duncan/Russell combined

    They might win 100 games

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    Heat in 6.

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    Bullets in 7

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    ratz stay ratz. loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    this is going to happen again.. no team in the West can match the Warriors,
    and no team in the East can match the Cavs on a mission.

    both teams will improve.

    Should be quite a series... I give Cavs edge in players.. and coaching edge to the Warriors.

    Cavs in 6
    well, almost halfway through.. and this seems inevitable barring serious injuries (anything can happen)
    if Curry is able to play, they will be back, and if Big 3, really Cavs need Thompson, and JR Smith and Shumpert
    all to stay healthy...

    but as we saw last June, this looks pretty likely..
    Spurs look pretty solid in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    well, almost halfway through.. and this seems inevitable barring serious injuries (anything can happen)
    if Curry is able to play, they will be back, and if Big 3, really Cavs need Thompson, and JR Smith and Shumpert
    all to stay healthy...

    but as we saw last June, this looks pretty likely..
    Spurs look pretty solid in the West.
    with Irving back, and playing like himself, Cavs spread a defense too much...
    Irving creates holes... James creates holes.. add alley-oops to the equation with
    that holes created by those two.. plus some 3 pts.. and Cavs are back

    what a difference Irving makes

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    cavs win it all - never had such a sure lock in ny life

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    Quote Originally Posted by louielouie View Post
    cavs win it all - never had such a sure lock in ny life
    Cats shot absolutely awful the entire game in Golden St. (Irving 2nd game back)
    not warmed up yet.. and the Cavs were right with them all game..

    Dubs had a seriously hard time with Cav defense.

    not a stretch for Cavs to take it..

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    4th Quarter highlights

    IRVING
    (at the 1:09 mark)http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400828414

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    and also not sure why all the haters in yhis forum dismiss this but

    cavs win the east -280

    is the greatest easiest bet i have ever seen in my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by louielouie View Post
    and also not sure why all the haters in yhis forum dismiss this but

    cavs win the east -280

    is the greatest easiest bet i have ever seen in my life
    U lebron stans need to chill out Spurs r winning it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballin24 View Post
    U lebron stans need to chill out Spurs r winning it all.

    Lebron has to be one of the luckiest superstar have seen. It's almost a guaranteed he will gets to the finals all year with him in the eastern conference. I mean who is challenging his team for the past years since the death of the Biggies in Celtic?
    He only needs to do one thing right, beat the western conference team in the finals.
    Going through teams like Clippers, Spurs, Warriors, OKC, Memphis,Rocket to the finals is not an easy job as those teams will tough you out in a 7 games series.
    He's the great Lebron of course but when i see guys not appreciating the beast in Kobe, ..............
    If the Spurs get through the Warriors, they win it all. If the Warriors win the West, Lebron may celebrate another ring but He has to stop the best player right now....CURRY

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    i was simply pointing out that cavs to win the east is as easy a bet as there is in any sport - it should actually be -1000 but the books have kept it at -250 to -300 all year - by tip of playoffs it will be closer to that -1000 - i also think cavs win it all at plus 260 is great value but they will be challenged in the finals - getting to the finals will be a cakewalk however

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    -1000 guarantee you zero chance it's -1000 in April. There will be one single series in the East where the series price will be shorter than -1000 for sure if not 2.

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    To think that the Cavs could give up home court & still win 4 out of 7 games against either Warriors or Spurs is highly unlikely to serious analysts & cappers.

    Outside of Cavs fans & Lebron fans, I imagine you wouldn't find too many people who think the Cavs are winning this year.

    Both teams (Spurs & Warriors) are on another level to the Cavs.

    Hard to imagine how the Cavs could take more than 1 road game max off either team.

    If Anyone can stop Lebron it is Leonard from the Spurs, or the Green/Iggy combo from GS.

    Lebron while still amazing, does appear to be starting to slow down.
    K-Love is a bust at the Cavs. Performance definitely below what they were hoping for.
    Irving is a fantastic 1 on 1 player, but this is the NBA, not and1.

    Look at how well Wade, Bosh & Lebron meshed & then compare it to Love, Irving & Lebron. Big difference.

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    who will beat the cavs in the east? the answer is no one. who will challenge the cavs to a six or seven game series? the answer is no one - -250 for a no sweat wins evrey single time bet? that is an Incredible value

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    cavs took wartiors to 2ot on the road in finals with no love no kyrie and no mo williams - they are being overlooked and slept on and will win it all this year probably against spurs maybe against warriors - lebron haters too blinded to see the gold light

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    warriors barely won on xmas with limoted kyrie and the cavs having an off day at thr line and 3pt - doubt we see that again in the finals of there is a rematch i agree with ratzz cavs in 6

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    if cavs meet spurs i see same result cavs in 6 - but the real money is in that cavs win the east - the price is so dang cheap for a lock bet - honestly can any of you say with a straight face that the bulls celtics raptors or hawks can beat the cavs in a best of 7 -- NOT A CHANCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by louielouie View Post
    and also not sure why all the haters in yhis forum dismiss this but

    cavs win the east -280

    is the greatest easiest bet i have ever seen in my life
    agreed... they SWEPT Atlanta (no.1 seed) last year WITHOUT Love and a hobbled Irving
    in their first year together.

    after a full second year (not even 2 full years) Irving hurt 2 months
    they should move the ball better.. improved timing...

    without Olynyk's cheap shot... Cavs are going for repeat

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    anybody who thinks the Warriors or Spurs would run over the Cavs in the Finals is crazy

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    Its hard to keep UP with all the excuses in this thread. Typical LeBron fans everytime he looses the excuses flow like wine.
    If not for this, if not for that LeBron wins 17 championships in a row.

    Heres something that Cav fans just sweep under the rug & the real reason they will never win. Kyrie Irving & Kevin Love are the worst defensive players in the NBA respectively @ their positions. At the end of the season it will be the same stale excuse "LeBron needs more help, he can't do it all by himself" <------GUARANTEED!!

    Now this guy is saying the Warriors barely beat CLE w/o Mo Williams
    Mo Williams isn't even in the rotation when Cavs healthy.

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    Spurs are playing playoff type basketball on the daily. Just saying

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    Warriors and Spurs will give Cavs a fight sure -- but Cavs can/will beat either in a best of 7 -- and regardless I am jut pointing out for the zillionth time on this gambling forum

    CAVS TO WIN THE EAST -250 or -300 is FREE MONEY

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    Quote Originally Posted by louielouie View Post
    cavs took wartiors to 2ot on the road in finals with no love no kyrie and no mo williams - they are being overlooked and slept on and will win it all this year probably against spurs maybe against warriors - lebron haters too blinded to see the gold light
    Louie I don't hate the Cavs. I marvel at Lebron's freakish skills all the time. I just think they are overrated, simply because they have the "chosen one" on their team. In fact I think the entire Eastern conference is overrated and that the gap between East & West is as big as ever...

    No no doubt you are right, they (Cavs) will breeze through the East, but then guess who will be waiting for them in the finals.....? A battle hardened and conditioned team who has fought hard at (probably) every round to emerge victorious from the West! - and they will also almost certainly have home court for the finals. On the other hand who is gonna challenge the Cavs? Bulls? The one man team Pacers? The jump shooting Raptors? East is weak. Competition breeds winners, not lack of it...

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    yeah i cant guarantee cavs win it all - spurs warriors and clippers can definitely beat them in a best of 7 if the cards fall right - no team in thr east stands a chance however thus a great future price as they most likely make it and most likely win game one or two thus giving you value when they are favored eventually

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    new Cavs under Lue look scary. Much improved.

    faster, more accurate, less turnovers..

    they are in Detroit tonight, 66 PTS at HALFTIME with just 2 Turnovers

    this more uptempo plan by Lue, was a solid move, they are enjoying themselves much more

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    you guys are all talk. why don't you put your money where your mouth is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezmoney123 View Post
    you guys are all talk. why don't you put your money where your mouth is.
    lol.. oh yeah tuff guy!?!?

    how much!? $1 Million... $10 MILLION!??! you just emme know.. i'm ready anytime


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    man, this is SO ON.

    unavoidable it seems. Again.. this is the new Celtics/Lakers from the 80's

    these two teams could meet like 3-4 times in the Finals

    only diff is that Lebron older than Curry.. not same Draft like Magic/Bird

    but same hometown, same hospital. Not the same, did not face each other in College

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    ok. i was a game off from prediction last year.. glad it went 7. exciting climax.

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