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  • german74
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-22-08
    • 9

    #1
    cw issue - still no reply from sbr
    following complaint has been filed on tuesday and so far i have not received a reply from sbr:
    Some of you say they are legit - ok. I say they are trying to scam me on my winnings I made back in April. In April players from Germany were still allowed to play there. So in the onliest week I was able to play there I won a bot over 900 USD. A day later there was a message saying that my country was allowed to play there by mistake and they will contact me in ref to a wd within 48 hours (my country will be added in the following 90 days).
    I contacted them by chat and was told that Germany will be added by June. So I decided to let my winnings stay in the account and play there again in June. It was June, Germany was still not added and I made a wd request. That request was declined. I asked them in the chat again why it was declined and I was told I ve to send in my docs. I did that and asked them again when Germany will be added. They told me by July. July - Germany was still not added. I asked again and was told of August. August - chat with Ben - September for sure. September - was told of some small problems - within the next two week. WD request - declined. October - this months for sure. This week I made another wd request but checked it in the chat first. The operator told me I have to contact cashier and they will inform me about a payment solution. So I contacted them and received the following replies:
    1. We will start accepting customers from Germany after the first of the
    year. We are finishing up another funding option first!

    2. You cant withdraw any funds until we do business in your area

    3. You can not withdraw funds until we do business in your area, like you
    have been told before!

    Then they told me that I had the chance to wd in April (I tried that but it was declined and then I was told they offer their service in June, July etc...).

    4. We did and you did not settle back then!

    They are basically blaming me now. They never sent me an email or offered me any payment. Now they say that I had the chance to ask for my funds (what I tried to) and say that I won`t get paid until at least January.

    What kind of business is that? They say that they are legit but want me to wait for 9 months or so for a lousy 900 USD payment. I thought they stand to their word and pay any customer who has a positive balance. If they stand to their word they should pay me by moneygram or moneybookers. This is a really sad story.

    > Any customer who has a balance of $400 or more after all wagers are
    > >> complete April 21st 2008, will be contacted by email within the
    > >> next 48 hours and we will make arrangements to send them their
    > >> winnings.
  • german74
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-22-08
    • 9

    #2
    interesting point: they told me i never tried to wd.
    check this out:

    Balance Pending Available
    $929.04 $0.00 $929.04
    Open wagers | Closed wagers | Accounting

    1. [Declined] -$900.00 (Withdraw) Online transaction. Tue, Sep 30 4:05AM
    2. [Declined] -$924.00 (Withdraw) Online transaction. Wed, May 28 9:49AM
    3. [Declined] -$850.00 (Withdraw) Online transaction. Mon, Apr 21 3:24AM
    4. [Declined] -$79.04 (Withdraw) Exceeded weekly maximum win amount for credit only customers. Mon, Apr 21 12:08AM
    when i try to wd it says i have no balance to wd.

    Withdrawals

    Error: You have no funds to withdraw at the present moment
    .
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    • big joe 1212
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-01-08
      • 19380

      #3
      bad deal !

      They should never had let you bet if you couldnt collect!

      I wonder if you had lost, would they try and collect? For sure they would have!
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      • JoshW
        SBR MVP
        • 08-10-05
        • 3431

        #4
        Hello german74. I have your email and am contacting CreditWagering on your issue. You should receive an email from me in the next hour on the issue.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82838

          #5
          Originally posted by JoshW
          Hello german74. I have your email and am contacting CreditWagering on your issue. You should receive an email from me in the next hour on the issue.
          How are you contacting them? They don't have a published phone number...just like the Italian Mafia.
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          • JBC77
            SBR MVP
            • 03-23-07
            • 3816

            #6
            Creditwagering is for the weak and desperate.
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            • AK
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-10-05
              • 814

              #7
              german74

              Please bare with SBR so they can look into your complaint. They will get to your answer as soon as its available. SBR does not make money from receiving complaints, getting payouts processed etc its done out from there own heart and business structure So Please give them time.

              Welcome to SBR, I'm sure You will enjoy your stay.
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              • purecarnagge
                SBR MVP
                • 10-05-07
                • 4843

                #8
                nice they are scamming Euro's to support US customers
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                • CaneDawg
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-25-08
                  • 6256

                  #9
                  get richie involved

                  tell em to call ben
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                  • firedawg
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 10-08-08
                    • 39219

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CaneDawg
                    get richie involved

                    tell em to call ben
                    cw is solid they will do the right thing
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                    • big joe 1212
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-01-08
                      • 19380

                      #11
                      Originally posted by firedawg
                      cw is solid they will do the right thing
                      yeah, now that the issue is public they might!
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                      • firedawg
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #12
                        whatever, you guys dont get it
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                        • AK
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 814

                          #13
                          Originally posted by firedawg
                          whatever, you guys dont get it
                          Here are some things I do Get FireDawg..

                          1.They have a D Rating at SBR
                          2.They Refuse to allow any visitors and have made up there operation location in the past.
                          3. There Website in particular there Stiff Page is a time bomb waiting to happen when someone files a Copyright Infringement Case with DMCA.
                          4. There true location is in Montreal
                          5. Phil from several stiff sportsbooks "Manages" the place.

                          If your a credit type of player go to a higher rated sbr rated company like BetBlackDog or Las Palmas.

                          AK
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                          • roasthawg
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-09-07
                            • 2990

                            #14
                            Originally posted by firedawg
                            cw is solid they will do the right thing
                            I agree 100%...I just got paid $650 from them after never putting a dime into their book...that's as solid as it gets imo.
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                            • pimike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 37139

                              #15
                              My understanding is your not telling the whole story. I Believe you should be honest here if you really won't some positive results.
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                              • purecarnagge
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-05-07
                                • 4843

                                #16
                                where is SBR on this?
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                                • I.R.B
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-12-08
                                  • 3209

                                  #17
                                  This guys seems like he needs some help...
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                                  • Cloak & Dagger
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-15-07
                                    • 4781

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                    My understanding is your not telling the whole story. I Believe you should be honest here if you really won't some positive results.
                                    you think he is lying??
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                                    • Richkas
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-03-08
                                      • 19396

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                                      you think he is lying??
                                      There is something fishy or CW would have paid already.

                                      Cloak and Dagger go play in the street.
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                                      • Cloak & Dagger
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-15-07
                                        • 4781

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Richkas
                                        There is something fishy or CW would have paid already.

                                        Cloak and Dagger go play in the street.
                                        you made a 5% bonus before your settle date in return for making for this post?

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                                        • Cloak & Dagger
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-15-07
                                          • 4781

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                          nice they are scamming Euro's to support US customers
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                                          • german74
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-22-08
                                            • 9

                                            #22
                                            No, there is nothing fishy about it. I signed up the week before they showed most countries the door. I made he winnings in that week and tried to wd. after it was declined (because i had not sent in my id) i asked when they will do business with germans again. then i was told of next month etc etc. I decided to let my winnings stay there until they do business with me again and ask for a debit card the day they open their door for me again. Finally I was told they won`t do business with germans until Jan next year. So I decided to cash out and now they tell me they won`t honour my winnings until Jan because they don`t do business with germans until then. That is the whole story. My account there is still open so there are no issues about bets, double signups or so.

                                            SBR is already involved now. Thanks to SBR.
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                                            • Richkas
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-03-08
                                              • 19396

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by german74
                                              No, there is nothing fishy about it. I signed up the week before they showed most countries the door. I made he winnings in that week and tried to wd. after it was declined (because i had not sent in my id) i asked when they will do business with germans again. then i was told of next month etc etc. I decided to let my winnings stay there until they do business with me again and ask for a debit card the day they open their door for me again. Finally I was told they won`t do business with germans until Jan next year. So I decided to cash out and now they tell me they won`t honour my winnings until Jan because they don`t do business with germans until then. That is the whole story. My account there is still open so there are no issues about bets, double signups or so.

                                              SBR is already involved now. Thanks to SBR.

                                              Let me guess, you won it playing soccer?
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                                              • I.R.B
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-12-08
                                                • 3209

                                                #24
                                                Man hope you telling the truth... Even tho i think playing at CW is just retarted i would hate to see a person not getting paid what he should..
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                                                • german74
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 10-22-08
                                                  • 9

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Richkas
                                                  Let me guess, you won it playing soccer?
                                                  Showing records from 1 to 12, from a total of: 12 First | Previous || Next | Last
                                                  1. [Won] $140.00 (Play) [Won: $140.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $140.00. Ticket Id:53934
                                                  [Win] Soccer - Spanish Primera League
                                                  Real Madrid + 140 on Real Madrid - Racing Santander [Sun, Apr 20 1:00PM] [Soccer - Spanish]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 12:42PM
                                                  2. [Won] $166.00 (Play) [Won: $166.00] Parlay (ML): 2 teams. Risking $50.00, to win $166.00. Ticket Id:53933
                                                  [Win] American League
                                                  TOR -125 on DET [Robertson -L] - TOR [A Burnett -R] [Sun, Apr 20 1:05PM] [MLB 5 Innings]
                                                  [Win] Soccer - Spanish Primera League
                                                  Real Madrid + 140 on Real Madrid - Racing Santander [Sun, Apr 20 1:00PM] [Soccer - Spanish]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 12:42PM
                                                  3. [No action] - (Play) [No action: $0.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $54.05. Ticket Id:53581
                                                  [No action] ATP Estoril Open - Estoril, Portugal - Final
                                                  Roger Federer -185 on Roger Federer - Nikolay Davydenko [Sun, Apr 20 9:15AM] [Tennis Matchups]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:36AM
                                                  4. [Lost] -$100.00 (Play) [Lost: $100.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $190.00. Ticket Id:53581
                                                  [Lost] Soccer - Italian Serie A League
                                                  Draw + 190 on Draw - Total [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - Italian]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:36AM
                                                  5. [Won] $68.97 (Play) [Won: $68.97] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $68.97. Ticket Id:53581
                                                  [Win] Soccer - English Premier League
                                                  Newcastle United -145 on Sunderland - Newcastle United [Sun, Apr 20 8:30AM] [Soccer - English]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:36AM
                                                  6. [Won] $115.00 (Play) [Won: $115.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $115.00. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Win] ATP Masters Series - Monte Carlo, Monaco
                                                  Nicolas Kiefer + 115 on Marin Cilic - Nicolas Kiefer [Sun, Apr 20 5:10AM] [Tennis Matchups]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  7. [Lost] -$100.00 (Play) [Lost: $100.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $80.00. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Lost] ATP Masters Series - Monte Carlo, Monaco
                                                  Jose Acasuso -125 on Philipp Kohlschreiber - Jose Acasuso [Sun, Apr 20 7:10AM] [Tennis Matchups]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  8. [Won] $425.00 (Play) [Won: $425.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $425.00. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Win] Soccer - Italian Serie A League
                                                  Napoli + 425 on Napoli - Parma [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - Italian]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  9. [Won] $80.00 (Play) [Won: $80.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $80.00. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Win] Soccer - Italian Serie A League
                                                  Juventus -125 on Juventus - Atalanta [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - Italian]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  10. [Won] $110.00 (Play) [Won: $110.00] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $110.00. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Win] German - Bundesliga
                                                  Nurnberg + 110 on Nurnberg - Wolfsburg [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - German]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  11. [Won] $74.07 (Play) [Won: $74.07] Straight bet. Risking $100.00, to win $74.07. Ticket Id:53580
                                                  [Win] Soccer - English Premier League
                                                  Aston Villa -135 on Birmingham City - Aston Villa [Sun, Apr 20 7:00AM] [Soccer - English]
                                                  Sun, Apr 20 4:34AM
                                                  12. [Lost] -$50.00 (Play) [Lost: $50.00] Parlay (ML): 4 teams. Risking $50.00, to win $681.43. Ticket Id:53577
                                                  [Win] German - Bundesliga
                                                  Nurnberg + 110 on Nurnberg - Wolfsburg [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - German]
                                                  [Win] Soccer - Italian Serie A League
                                                  Juventus -125 on Juventus - Atalanta [Sun, Apr 20 9:00AM] [Soccer - Italian]
                                                  [Lost] ATP Masters Series - Monte Carlo, Monaco
                                                  Jose Acasuso -125 on Philipp Kohlschreiber - Jose Acasuso [Sun, Apr 20 7:10AM] [Tennis Matchups]
                                                  [Win] ATP Masters Series - Monte Carlo, Monaco
                                                  Nicolas Kiefer + 115 on Marin Cilic - Nicolas Kiefer [Sun, Apr 20 5:10AM] [Tennis Matchups]
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                                                  • Richkas
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-03-08
                                                    • 19396

                                                    #26
                                                    and tennis

                                                    no wonder why our military just dominates the world.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82838

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Richkas
                                                      Let me guess, you won it playing soccer?
                                                      Why the fvck do you care how he won it? He is a German and he bet on games he is familiar with. If CW allowed him to open an account and he placed legitimate bets offered by CW it doesn't matter what sport he won it. If CW does not pay this guy immediately it should take the stiff list down or put Ben on the stiff list.

                                                      SBR please update us on how this dispute is resolved without being influenced by CW's paid employees like Richkas and pimike.
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                                                      • pico
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 04-05-07
                                                        • 27321

                                                        #28
                                                        cw is a A+ book. you don't need to worry. uncle richie gave his word
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                                                        • german74
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 10-22-08
                                                          • 9

                                                          #29
                                                          @sbr: any news? I have not heard from you since friday
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                                                          • madmaxx
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-07
                                                            • 3289

                                                            #30
                                                            i lost on CW they gave me my money back i lost again now
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                                                            • german74
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 10-22-08
                                                              • 9

                                                              #31
                                                              that is nonsense. i tried to make a wd again and this time it said:
                                                              Withdrawals

                                                              Thank you for your transaction.

                                                              You withdrawal will be processed by debit card.

                                                              Click here to check your recent history.

                                                              However I don`t have a debit card and was told by cw that they don`t issue one to germans / europeans. I wonder what happens next.

                                                              Don`t get me wrong. I will never say they don`t pay but they gave me the runaround for the money i won.
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                                                              • german74
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 10-22-08
                                                                • 9

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by german74
                                                                that is nonsense. i tried to make a wd again and this time it said:
                                                                Withdrawals

                                                                Thank you for your transaction.

                                                                You withdrawal will be processed by debit card.

                                                                Click here to check your recent history.

                                                                However I don`t have a debit card and was told by cw that they don`t issue one to germans / europeans. I wonder what happens next.

                                                                Don`t get me wrong. I will never say they don`t pay but they gave me the runaround for the money i won.
                                                                1. [Pending] $900.00 (Withdraw) Online transaction. Mon, Oct 27 8:22AM
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hopefully Uncle Ben will straighten this out today

                                                                  Richie get on the phone
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                                                                  • madmaxx
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-14-07
                                                                    • 3289

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i think they allow withdrawals on wednesday
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                                                                    • madmaxx
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-14-07
                                                                      • 3289

                                                                      #35
                                                                      seriously though blackdog was the worst book ive ever seen
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