like i said i have not stiffed anyone, but if it came down to it and for some reason i was broke and hungry why not take a free shot, i dont plan on it and dont intend to, i am just voicing an opinion. as far as honor among gamblers...seems like an oxymoron, every gambler will be broke at one time and where is the honor in that? you dont eat because you want to feel better about yourself, would rather sleep with a full stomach in a bed than feel good about my debts, i bet very rarely and stick to poker for the most part. Unless you are capping yourself, at a very high percentage the juice itself is enough to keep anyone with an understanding of statistics far, far away, without a rollover! but you are right, just because you can screw someone does not make it ok...and i never screwed anyone merely asked what would happen if i did. So the answer to your question would be yes, i get where you are coming from, but when cw goes belly up dont say i didnt warn you, and why are u gambling on credit anyway? especially with a rollover requirement. seems like they are taking advantage of many people who had a bad run in life to begin with, and see it as one of their last outs, and targeting a demographic that is broke to begin with, not a very good business model at all.
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we have been hearing this crap for a year now!
i wish you scumbags would just go away with your "bad business model"
who the fuk cares!
no one who plays here will come on here crying if they go out of business, we know the risk and reward of dealing with a credit shop! We dont need your scumbag opinions!Comment -
This is not a typical credit shop, for younger players here, just listen to the guys at sbr and their ratings. sbr john had a good post on these guys , do a search for it if you are looking into playing thereComment -
They are better than a "typical credit shop" for us smaller players. We get a 15% bonus when we pay up what we owe, fast settlement at a lower figure ($400) when we win.
And yes, we know the risk.. (of playing with any offshore).Comment -
Play all you want, but definitely do not send them any money if you lose. You would have to be nuts to pay them.Comment -
Uh, I have been gambling for 50 years now, started going to the track when I was 13. I have never missed a meal because of gambling, or even had to walk home because I lost my bus ticket. I have tapped out of gambling money for sure. But I have always been able to maintain a life apart from gambling, relationships, family, careers etc.as far as honor among gamblers...seems like an oxymoron, every gambler will be broke at one time and where is the honor in that? you dont eat because you want to feel better about yourself, would rather sleep with a full stomach in a bed than feel good about my debts
If I had to chose been gambling and eating, I would join GA and stick to the program. I don't think anyone should ever get to that level, or even the level of having to chose between paying their bills/debts and gambling. Again, if I ever chose gambling over paying my debts, I would quit gambling and/or get help if I couldn't quit on my own.Comment -
Why would I end up in the slammer if some sports book said I gambled with them Great 30? Have you ever heard of a bookies customers ending up in jail or even being fined? I haven't.Comment -
Uh, OK.My interpretation of the online gaming act is that it is not illegal to place bets. It's illegal to fund your account.
What do you base your interpretation on? Any case law to that effect or ???Comment -
The way I read the law and the way other people on other forums have read it also. That's the spooky thing about this book is that they flaunt a lot and dont seem to know the rules or laws themselves. They are just too reckless IMO. That's what makes me feel like they are not legit no matter how many people they pay or dont pay.
P.S. Im not the only person that interprets the law that way and no I have not seen a case go to trial.Comment -
OK, fair enough great 30.
So you feel you are breaking the law when you fund your Betjam account, the same as you feel others break the law when they fund their creditwager account. So you have become a criminal, just because you like to gamble.
I agree some books are crazier than others for sure.
Sadly, anyone who ever used Neteller to fund a book is already a criminal (if your interpretation is correct), and one whose name is on file with the justice department, and it wouldn't surprise me if the credit card people and Western Union would roll over too if asked.
Sad about the direction the USA has chosen really, used to be a free country, now they are treating their own citizens very poorly, and cutting down freedoms daily.Comment -
I didn't know any staff here played with them.it would be interesting to see an update from sbr john or someone elses opinion on this site and their opinions of credit shops in general,though cw does not conduct itself , by any means,like a normal credit shop.I think most people see some mathematical impossibilities of cw working but who knows,maybe they have changed their mind.
The opinion of most people in the industry has been extremely negative towards this site but it would be interesting for an update.it is surprising they are still here so who knows.Comment -
What's Credit Wagering? Is it like welfare for the poor?Comment -
Peep, you seem like a smart man, but to say you have been betting for 50 years and always able to seperate it from effecting your life would put u in the minority. Many people cannot keep them seperate and end up suffering along with many of their families. Only problem is there is no detox for gambling, many people get that "itch" and cannot resist. I feel that with the definition of an addict being to continue an action despite negative consequenses that we are all in the same boat. Just because you have been lucky enough to be financially stable does not make you any better of a person. Many of people have turned to gambling with the hope of relieving debt and ended up losing everything. Sad but true, that is why I really dont feel bad for cw and the recent rumors of them going belly up. And with a business that gives you a 15% rebate on what u owe if you pay they are basically giving away their juice. So their lines are either way out of whack or they are burning some players out there. I would be suprised to see em last longer than another few months, tops. I feel that any gambling besides poker is not a good decision, it may be fun but many of people have and will continue to suffer.Comment -
Charles Ponzi paid his customers on time for a while just like CW has. Then one day it all collapsed.......Comment -
Yes funding your account is criminal, but its not public knowledge if I use betjamaica and something happens unexpectedly. Though on the other hand, the FBI, the local officials or anyone can go on CW's page if something happens unexpectedly and see your pic. You can talk all the big- boy loud talk you want, but no one knows what life brings.
P.S. Im not saying youre talking big boy loud talk.Comment -
And these are people that should NOT be gambling Ijustwant2bepaid.Many of people have turned to gambling with the hope of relieving debt and ended up losing everything. Sad but true, that is why I really dont feel bad for cw and the recent rumors of them going belly up.
PERIOD.
The government (who now markets gambling themselves lol, next for them comes crack and prostitution, when I was a kid they called lotteries "the numbers racket", but I digress) estimates somewhere's between 5 and 10% of the population has problems gambling.
Yet they persist in advertising and fueling this addiction to these people.
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im not arguing with u peep, u are correct, just pointing out gambling hurts many. And the lottery is sad, i dont know how many times ive seen people in front of me at stores buying lottery tickets one after another, sad, those odds are even worse...Comment -
Funny how only scumbag stiffs and people who have never played at CW are the ONLY ones to hate on them, i.e.
Obnoxious : annoying or objectionable due to being a showoff or attracting undue attention to oneself
Ignorance : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness
Irrelevant : not applicable or pertinent; having no probative value upon any issue in the case
I have yet to see a legitimate player have a complaint about them here or any other forum since September when I started playing with them and looking for such posts.Comment -
i heard that only a litlle over 20% of customers pay cw, how long will they stay open, whats the over/under on them being open in three months, and how much do you have to owe for them to come after you, 200, 400, the whole 1000 or whatComment -
I heard that over 80% of their customers pay them.
But who cares? They have paid everyone so far, and on time.
As to the second part of your question "how much do you have to owe for them to come after you"..... If you plan to play there and not pay, I have one word of advice.
DON'T.
You have bigger problems that them chasing you if you are already planning a getaway BEFORE betting. If this is the case, don't bet until you can afford it. If you need a getaway plan, you can't.....Comment -
i actually played with them and like their site so far, I lost 400 and settled up at 340 just to get it out of the way, I like their 15% savings but I asked the question because I wanted to post up to raise my limits but am afraid they might go under, but the percentage of players that pay is like 20 point something, I did research, this is why i am hesitant to post up with them and get screwed. This is also the reason I ask what are their procedures for collecting, I just want to know they are not going to go under.Comment -
Long as they pay you, who cares if they go under.
Yeah, the 15% is nice. I paid them 2K once and got a $300 bonus, was almost up to a payout figure for the next week before I started lol.Comment -
They pay fast. Thats all that matters.Comment -
A company spokesperson said that about 20-percent of sports bettors have proven to be trustworthy, which was a higher figure than they anticipated. Frankly, I was a bit surprised, assuming the figure would be much higher, but there are more stiffs among sports bettors than I realized.
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Nice article ijustwant2bpaid. Thanks for the link.
In the meantime, I am sure they don't have to worry about you, since I see from some of your other posts that you make a living gambling. You should eat them alive!Comment -
lol yea right, i just began capping but my skills have been improving ive just had a run of bad luck, either way i pay what is due, I think my rollover is over about done now though so time for my luck to improve and its a matter of time before im up with em, I really hope my opening round tourneys start hitting though otherwise this week I will pay and most likely take the rest of the month off. But I appreciate the comment peep, even if it it was sarcastic, (im not sure, lol) But the bol with you and yours as well. Plus I really have faith in my brackets so time to come back like the terminator.. Games on!
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Yeah, I went into a lot of brackets this year too. Why not, a chance to get lucky plus cheap entertainment.
BOL to you too.Comment
